Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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When does the summer end?

Logically speaking if you only have 2 seasons they should each be six months long. When Jesus was in the grave that would have been winter time, but when He arose from the dead that would be the beginning of Summer. He arose Nisan 17, so one would logically assume that Tishrei 17 would be the end of Summer and beginning of Winter. That would be October 24/25 2021
 

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Hell is the world the FreeMasons want to create

Colossians 2:8 Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

The Free Masons have a religion of Satan worship based on the deceitful philosophy that they are simply one with the elemental spirits of the world. Stealing, adultery and murder are all OK because that is the law of the jungle. If you study apes, or chimps, or birds, or one of many different species on this planet you will see that the practice of adultery, stealing, and murder is very common.

The problem with this philosophy is that it is not true of eusocial creatures. Yes, out of millions of species on this planet there are only 18 that are eusocial, so they are quite rare, yet they are also the most dominant species on the planet. Ants, termites, bees, and humans all have this in common. Species that are not eusocial do not congregate in groups larger than 100 and usually not in groups larger than 25. For example with chimps you will have a dominant male, perhaps one or two more, a harem of females and the offspring of this alpha male. Think about that, chimps are very smart, they have opposable thumbs and so could create a world not that different from humans and yet they are "dumb animals". Why? Because they are not eusocial. They cannot trust others to raise their kids, they cannot trust others to not steal and commit adultery and so they live in large families cut off from the other chimps. They don't have schools, they don't have diversified jobs that everyone does.

What makes man special is that we are eusocial. We could never have gone to the moon if we lived in a society that could not be larger than 100. Satellites, telecommunications, modern medicine, and all the other fantastic inventions are all possible because we are eusocial. We can have an Albert Einstein or Isaac Newton because we don't have to spend our days foraging for food and fighting off other bands of roving humans.

A society according to Christ can transform this earth into the New Jerusalem. However, if we live according to the elemental spirits of apes the world will descend into anarchy, chaos, and will very quickly become hell. This is what will happen after the rapture. Look at what Micah 7 says.

4 The best of them is like a brier,
the most upright worse than a thorn hedge.
The day God visits you has come,
the day your watchmen sound the alarm.
Now is the time of your confusion.
5 Do not trust a neighbor;
put no confidence in a friend.
Even with the woman who lies in your embrace
guard the words of your lips.
6 For a son dishonors his father,
a daughter rises up against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies are the members of his own household.
 

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The Unbelievers are in the dark and are distracted

Luke 12:39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into.

The world has figured out that the Pandemic was contrived to get people to take this vaccine and that the vaccine is some sinister plot from sorcerers. But look at this verse, the Lord says they won't know at what hour the thief is coming and they won't prevent their house from being broken into.

So while the whole world is protesting and screaming about the vaccine mandate that is a diversion to keep them from seeing the real thief. The real event is tied to the rapture and the judgement of the Great Babylon with fire.
 

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The Lord is going to pull the rug out from under this evil age

The Free Mason's religion is based on the rulers resting upon the masses who they consider blind, rude, vulgar. View the great unwashed masses as "the deplorables". That is the fundamental error in their entire philosophy. If the Lord rescues the "deplorables" with the rapture then He pulls the rug out from under them. Murder, stealing and adultery as a religion for the abusive people works when you have someone to abuse, but what happens when they aren't here and you are thrown into a world with nothing but murderers, thieves and adulterers? Then you have Sodom and Gomorrah.
 

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Because you knew not the time of your visitation

Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

This is what we are seeing places like La Palma, the stones are crying out. Earthquakes and volcanoes have increased exponentially. It is amazing how many Christians are holding their peace and how many unbelievers are clueless. It is as though the whole world has been drugged with prozac or with the main stream media singing a lullabye.

41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.

There are whistleblowers from many different areas of the deep state saying that these things are being hid from our eyes. NASA knows about Nibiru. The Plandemic and vaccine were all part of a conspiracy hid from our eyes, the election fraud was a conspiracy hid from our eyes, the collapse of the world's economy was also planned and known in advance.

43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

The believers should have been tuned into the Lord's speaking. The judgement is because they weren't. If they had been they would have known the time of our visitation. I have posted links to at least ten different watchmen, maybe even 20 who are posting on the internet concerning the fulfillment of the Lord's word.

45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

They refer to the Federal Reserve as "the Temple" here in the US. Others refer to the Capital building as "sacred ground". There are a lot of people in this government who are involved in selling out this country and there are nefarious agents involved in buying up the US as though they were buying slaves. The $6 trillion stimulus package is one example, the FED buying up the S&P 500 is another. Giving Bhagram airbase to China is still another. Cancelling our pipeline and giving Russia access to Europe is yet another.

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.

If you cannot see that the US government is a den of thieves then either you are willfully blind to this or your mental faculties are severely impaired.

47 And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, 48 And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.

They tried to destroy those involved in Jan 6th but that has backfired. They tried to scare away parents from school board meetings concerning CRT but that has turned into a joke "Moms versus the FBI". They tried to scare people away from Joe Rogan and Ivermectin but that blew up in their face as CNN's ratings crashed and Rogan's ratings soared. MSNBC, CNN, Facebook, and Twitter are all seeing people leave. The term "Let's go Brandon" refers to how united the country is against what is going on and how they see through the lies the mainstream media is pushing.
 

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Luke 20 Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things

20:1 And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders,
2 And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority?
3 And he answered and said unto them, I will also ask you one thing; and answer me:
4 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?
5 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then believed ye him not?
6 But and if we say, Of men; all the people will stone us: for they be persuaded that John was a prophet.
7 And they answered, that they could not tell whence it was.

8 And Jesus said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

There are those who quote Romans which says that we need to be subject to the authorities concerning the vaccine Mandate. My question to those that mandate the vaccine is "by what authority do you do these things?" They may claim that with the FDA approval they now have the legal right to mandate a vaccine based on the Neremberg laws. That is fine, however, they don't give you the FDA approved vaccine and they don't have it. So again, my question is by what authority are they mandating a vaccine which is Emergency Use Authorization? That is illegal. They are firing people based on this illegal mandate.

They are setting themselves up as God but what a poor substitute for the real Jesus Christ, Lord of All.

The Bible says to "honor the king" and yet Jesus said "neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things". The minute a ruler steps out from under the law they are dishonoring the true king. The Bible does not command us to honor those who dishonor Jesus. The Lord was not rude, he wasn't crude, but He held His ground. Tell me the authority by which John the Baptist baptized, in other words if you admit that his authority was from God then you admit that Jesus is Lord. These evil rulers refuse to admit that Jesus is God.

How hypocritical. They would condemn Christians for not "honoring the king" when in fact the ones who will be condemned for not honoring the king is them.
 

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A different gospel

There are two very different gospels being preached. One is open, from the rooftops, out in the light. The other is hidden, secret, full of lies and deceit.

In the Bible's gospel we have the Christian ethic, work hard, have faith in God, and you will reap what you sow.

In this antithesis of the gospel it is all about prospering off of someone else's labor. With one hand you do good works as PR, with the hidden hand you bring death and destruction. For example, let's say the government wanted to become much more powerful. Hitler did this, you create a problem, say the Communists, and then the people seek you out to have a more aggressive police department where you now have a firmer grip over the country. Perhaps the Jews see through this so you decide to make them the enemy. You destroy them with one hand, and then steal everything they have and use that to fund your "good works". It is like a snake devouring itself.

Suppose the real goal is to have greater control over the people, like branding cattle. You create something that can track every human being on the planet by simply injecting it into them. You can first test this out on animals and prisoners. This could even store digital information like bank accounts. If you can eliminate cash you have even greater control over people. But no one would agree to this so you create a catastrophe, a pandamic, and then use that as a way to motivate people to get your injection.

Satan comes only to steal, kill and destroy. If you are part of the 1% that rule the world, then it is an easy thing to see killing 1/3 of the people on this planet as a solution to your problems. Hitler saw this as the solution, Stalin saw it this way, Lenin saw it this way, you should not think it strange that "the ruler of this age" would see stealing and murder as a solution.

G.K. Chesterton said the study of history should be a study of power elites. Instead historians obscure and deny the truth. The more I read, the more I am convinced that the function of the news media, the arts, education and entertainment is to deceive and make us stupid. While we are numbed and distracted, our leaders carry out their orders under occult discipline (or blackmail.) As human life becomes degraded, it seems less worth saving. The devil is afoot and all-powerful. As long as he uses deceit, good people seem helpless to resist. https://rense.com/general29/free.htm

The Noahide laws are a disturbing development. The US and the UN both recognize them and on the surface they seem Biblical. However, the penalty for blasphemy is beheading and that includes declaring that Jesus is Lord.

Obviously that is a violation of the US constitution and those penalties have not been enforced. The thought is that after the rapture Satan is cast out of heaven, the Antichrist rises and to maintain order not only do they push the "great delusion" of UFOs and something out of a Marvel movie script, but they will also declare martial law and enforce the Noahide law to prevent anyone from preaching that Jesus is Lord.

This is prophesied in the Bible when the fifth seal is opened as we see the souls of those who have been beheaded.
 

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Her Green Figs

Song of Solomon 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

I have a fig tree and have been eating ripe figs since the end of August. However, here we are the middle of October and I have a number of green figs still on the tree. In order to help these ripen I am aggressively pruning the tree. Any branch without fruit has been pruned back so that all the sap will go to these branches with fruit. As I did this it occurred to me that this is what the Lord is doing with the Pandemic (forced shutdown) and now this Covid mandate forcing people to resign or be fired from their job. The Lord is removing everything that would sap our time so that we could focus on bringing forth fruit before the winter comes. Winter is coming, if these figs are going to ripen they need to speed it up!
 

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Evidence that Trump is a Free Mason

The evidence in this video is overwhelming in my opinion that Trump is a FreeMason, and not an innocent one who thinks it is an organization dedicated to charitable works, but rather a full fledged worshipper of Baal and Ashteroth. He also does a wonderful job of tying the prophecy that there are 7 kings and that the 8th is of the 7 by showing that we have had 7 presidents who were FreeMasons and most of these 7 if not all were Grand Master level. It is very important to understand that no one is a 33 level Grand Master of Free Masonry without being fully aware and committed to worshipping Satan.

So then why would there be this very strong divide between Biden/Harris/Obama/Clinton who are all FreeMasons with Trump who is also a FreeMason? A basic tenant of FreeMasonry doctrine is the balance between light and dark. What they have been able to do is to divide the country against each other while being completely distracted with the real existential threat. There are many who think that the focus of the battle should be on election fraud, or who are outraged at the lies put forth by the Media, or the censoring done by the tech giants. Yet how many have focused on this coming catastrophe with Nibiru or the US government and all the elites building underground bunkers? This is one thing that has bothered me about the whole Trump "movement" is that as President and as a billionaire with the elite connections he must know about what is going on. It seems to me the whole Trump presidency was a diversion designed to gain the trust of Evangelical Christians and they continually proclaim how the vaccine was produced by Trump, hence Christians can trust it. Everything since Biden was elected was part of the great delusion to keep us distracted for the last 10 months.


This is not a judgement on Donald Trump, only the Lord is in the position of being a judge. Instead I am saying that these last five years are like a magician creating a diversion so while everyone is looking over here, the deception is going on over there. Because of this distraction many believers do not realize the day of their visitation has come.

Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
 

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8 US Presidents that were/are 33 degree FreeMasons (some were honorary)

Revelation 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

One theory is that the Beast refers to one world government and the woman refers to global commerce from multinational corporations like Disney, Coca Cola, etc. These multinational corporations sit upon the seven continents. You can describe it as the stock market with the most prominent being in NY, London and Hong Kong.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Was and is not indicates that Babylon with Nimrod as the leader foreshadowed this one world government at the end of the age. The worship of Baal and Ashteroth and all thee derivative worship of Greek and Egyptian Gods is part of this. These false pagan gods suffered a major defeat at the cross of Christ and were all but done away with but in recent years have made a very strong come back with things like "Burning Man" and "New Age" and the apostasy.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

If global commerce represents this harlot, then the kings would certainly be US presidents. It is very difficult to view anyone else on Earth as a "king" of these multinational corporate religion.

33rd degree Free Masons

These are the presidents who have been "master masons" since WWII when Israel became a nation again.

FDR, Truman, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Trump, and Biden

Interestingly Biden is the eighth and is of the seven (Obama). The other interesting thing is that it says "five are fallen". At present only four have fallen, Clinton is still alive, however he is quite sick and his death would therefore be a major sign of the Lord's coming.
 

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Similar but slightly different theory

Christians are like a fire alarm blaring a warning, this is similar though slightly different.


At the very least I think we should be aware of these. Obviously you can't agree with all of them and might not agree with any of them. In my opinion it is undeniable that FreeMasons are worshipping Satan, they are a cult, and although many could be "useful idiots" who do not know the deep things of Satan that is not possible if you are a 33rd degree or a "Master Mason". I have also felt that no one just steps into the Presidency as an outsider, and that Trump had to be well connected to some secret elite society.
 

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At the very least I think we should be aware of these. Obviously you can't agree with all of them and might not agree with any of them. In my opinion it is undeniable that FreeMasons are worshipping Satan, they are a cult, and although many could be "useful idiots" who do not know the deep things of Satan that is not possible if you are a 33rd degree or a "Master Mason". I have also felt that no one just steps into the Presidency as an outsider, and that Trump had to be well connected to some secret elite society.
The same is true of Obama and particularly of Obama winning a Nobel Peace prize for doing nothing. We also have to see that the Peace treaty negotiated by Trump with Israel will be the Peace treaty that the AntiChrist will confirm with the many (UN) after Israel wins the war against Gog and Magog described in Ezekiel 38 (not Armageddon, but the war that precedes the start of the 70th week)
 

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2Corinthians 3 -- Our rapture is the mirror image of the Lord's resurrection

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?


Wow! Do you realize he is the apostle of the Lord? He has been sent to us with a message from the Lord and this is the message! So instead of thinking of Paul saying this, think of Jesus.

2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: 3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

When the Lord returns will He find faith? Will He find saints that are “Letters of commendation”, the word of God is written on their hearts? That is the point of the ministry, that the words of the Lord would be written on our hearts so that we manifest and express Him when He returns.

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

That is the point, Paul is ministering the New Testament. We have a covenant with God that “Christ in us is the hope of glory”. In these chapters we have to view this as Christ in Paul the hope of glory speaking. For the last 18 months many of us have been looking at the signs and prophecies of the Lord’s coming. Many of these “watchmen” have become fixated on the Old Testament feasts. Although Paul said in Colossians that these feasts are a shadow of things to come they are still Old Testament. The rapture of the church before the hour of trial is a New Testament promise. We have a covenant with the Lord and in that covenant there is a promise that He will return to gather us to Himself so that where He is there we will be also. This is not part of the Old covenant, this is a new covenant promise, so why are all these “watchmen” ignoring the New Testament? The Feast of Trumpets and the Atonement are both feasts that are part of the covenant to the Jews. How could either one be fulfilled by the rapture of the church composed primarily of Gentiles?

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Yes, when you catch the crooks there is glory in that. But when you transform the deplorables into the bride of Christ that is exceedingly glorious. This is my point exactly, yes there is glory in the Old Covenant, but the New Covenant exceeds in glory and most notably that is the rapture.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

These liars and crooks and thieves are being done away with. Yes we will cheer and clap when this is done. But the bride of Christ will remain, that is a far more lasting glory.

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

What is this vail? They see Paul, they don’t see Christ in him, the hope of glory. They need letters of commendation and don’t see that the deplorables transformed into the bride of Christ is His letter of commendation. At the end of this age they will be the sign to this evil generation. They will see them stand up in the streets of Nineveh and prevent the house from being broken into. When the Lord comes He will find faith written on the hearts of these ones. The rapture of the believers will ultimately take away the vail that is upon the hearts of the Jews.

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Who organized these people to stand up? Who got them together to do this? The Lord is that Spirit. It isn’t by power or might, it is by the Spirit of the Lord. The powers that be have told them to shut up and move on, but where the Spirit of the Lord is there is the freedom to say no, I will stand by faith.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Can you imagine that when the Lord returns there would be millions of believers watching and ready and in the same image as the Lord? What does this mean “changed into the same image from glory to glory”. No doubt this is referring to a process, like the songs of ascent, going up step by step with the rapture being the ultimate step.
Now look at this, it is telling you that the rapture of the saints is like a mirror of the Lord’s glory in His resurrection. We are beholding the crucified and resurrected Christ and we are changed into the same image like a mirror. Well then, what is the mirror image of the Lord’s resurrection on Nisan 17? I would think that it would be the Bride’s rapture on Tishrei 17. What is the one day we have been charged to keep as a rehearsal of the Lord’s coming and our wedding feast? It is the Lord’s table.