Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
It will be Jab or death


Major headline for the Blood moon
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
Luke 9:18-22 When Justice is done it brings terror to evil doers

18 Once when Jesus was praying in private and his disciples were with him, he asked them, “Who do the crowds say I am?” 19 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, that one of the prophets of long ago has come back to life.” 20 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “God’s Messiah.”

If you see that Jesus is the anointed one of God and that He has been given to you, then you will know that He has given you the power and the authority to cast out demons and heal the sick. That brokerage firm filled with demons, they were shut down within a year of my leaving. These inner city youths, primarily young men of color (80% of the school) with a very high poverty index, are performing on par with schools like Stuyvesant, Bronx HS of Science, and other high schools ranked as the best in the country. When you look at them based on improvement from one year to the next, they are easily the number one high school in the city (for the class I teach).

21 Jesus strictly warned them not to tell this to anyone.

I have been strictly warned not to say one thing about Jesus being the Messiah at my school. At the school it is all about the curriculum. At home it is all about praying for wisdom.

22 And he said, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.”

He must be killed.

Pr 22:3 The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.

Jesus saw the danger, was He prudent? Did He take refuge, did He advise the disciples to hide themselves? Jesus continued to keep going to Jerusalem and the cross, so was He simple? Did He pay the penalty? Was He a ransom for our sin? He must be raised to life. There are many out there who will try every possible way to avoid having Jesus as Lord. They will go so far as to crucify Him. They are conceited, they are envious, they would rather fail than have Jesus be Lord.

Pr 22:4 Humility is the fear of the Lord; its wages are riches and honor and life.

Clearly the Lord was not simple, He saw the danger, but He humbled Himself to be a servant, to fear the Lord. There are people who do see the danger approaching from this pandemic, from climate change, and from these protests. They see the schools shutting down, they see visions of armed riots, and they see the collapse of the economy. So what do we do, are we afraid of Herod the Tetrarch who goes around chopping heads off, or do we fear the Lord who has set His face to go to Jerusalem? Are you going to run and hide yourself, or are you going to proclaim the kingdom? Did you really think you would cast out demons without a fight?

Pr 21:12 The Righteous One takes note of the house of the wicked and brings the wicked to ruin.


That is why it must be this way. The Lord is prudent, He does see the danger, and He fears God. Man’s sin is going to be judged, that is the danger, so He became a ransom for us to pay the price for us. This is the story of Passover. We put the blood on our door so that the Righteous one could take note, meanwhile He had already taken note of the house of the wicked. When the destroyer came and brought the house of Egypt to ruin the righteous one stood guard over our house because of the blood of the lamb.

Pr 21:22 One who is wise can go up against the city of the mighty and pull down the stronghold in which they trust.

Think of the public school system. For inner city youths, for young men of color, for the poor it is not too much to say the schools have been a failure. The United States generally scores 28th on international exams comparing school systems. However, we spend far more per student than the countries scoring at the top of these exams. When you consider how we do for the money we are far worse than 28th. This is because the Son of Man was rejected by the elders. The first year they did one of these international exams Finland scored first. All the reporters ran to the political leaders to ask them what they did. They were confused, they hadn’t done anything. They had simply told the educators to figure out the best way to educate and the politicians had basically kept their hands off. In the US controlling funding for the school system is very big money, no way the political leaders, the “chief priests and rulers” will keep their hands off. That is why we have one of the worst education systems “for the money”. On the one hand the death and resurrection of Jesus demonstrated that He was the one chosen by God, just like Aaron’s budded rod did. Here is the good news, you don't need the public school, you could do exactly what I did in a homeschool situation. I could share my curriculum, it is all online. The public school is the stronghold of the wicked, we need to pull it down.

Pr 21:15 When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.


On the other hand Jesus' crucifixion becomes a judgement on the elders and chief priests who rejected Him and sentenced Him to die. They have sentenced your kids to die. What have you got to lose? If 50% of the kids in this country walked out of the public school and went to homeschool at the church meeting hall it would be a terror to the evildoers.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
Evil Cows

Genesis 41:1 And it came to pass at the end of two full years, that Pharaoh dreamed: and, behold, he stood by the river. 2 And, behold, there came up out of the river seven kine, well-favored and fat-fleshed; and they fed in the reed-grass. 3 And, behold, seven other kine came up after them out of the river, ill-favored and lean-fleshed, and stood by the other kine upon the brink of the river. 4 And the ill-favored and lean-fleshed kine did eat up the seven well-favored and fat kine. So Pharaoh awoke. 5 And he slept and dreamed a second time: and, behold, seven ears of grain came up upon one stalk, rank and good. 6 And, behold, seven ears, thin and blasted with the east wind, sprung up after them. 7 And the thin ears swallowed up the seven rank and full ears. And Pharaoh awoke, and, behold, it was a dream.

The Hebrew word for "ill favored" is actually evil. It is hard for anyone to think of a cow being evil so translators have a problem with that. But let's think about this for a second, if the cows represent the economy, is it really an act of God that you have seven years of famine this bad? Right now we are seeing an extreme drought in California that has gone on for 22 years. As a result we are seeing bigger and bigger forest fires as well as forests dying. They blame "climate change" and yet strangely "climate change" operates much, much faster in California than in NY. But here is the strange thing, 80% of California's water goes to Agriculture. So if California grew crops that didn't need as much water the drought wouldn't be nearly as severe. Instead California grows crops like almonds which are one of the most water intensive crops there are. In truth California has been using more water than they had on a yearly basis for over 22 years. That was their choice. It wasn't because they needed water for people, it was because they chose to grow crops that guzzled water even though they didn't have the water. This was not some national necessity either, we have other parts of the country that get much more water than California and could have grown the almonds instead.

You might think this was simply a bad judgement call, but that is highly unlikely. First of all, the forest fires burning down the forests opens up more land for agriculture. Second, they are blaming everything on Climate change instead of their intentional use of water intensive crops. This in turn is the basis for a multi trillion dollar "green new deal" which is all about buying up technology manufactured in California like electric vehicles, solar panels, and lithium batteries. Now that is an evil economy.

California used to be the richest state in the US, but today by certain measures it is the poorest. But consider the pandemic, again you might think this was a virus from nature and was just one of those things. But that isn't true, it was a man made virus and the shut down cannot be justified as "respecting science". Rarely would a quarantine be recommended except in the very specific cases where the hospitals were overwhelmed. So a few select cities might have needed to be shut down for one or two months, but that is it. Not the whole country, not even all the cities. Why would they do it? Some think it was to help Biden get elected and it did help him. Some think it was to benefit certain multinational corporations like Amazon and it certainly benefited them. Some think it was to bankrupt the middle class because they are the backbone of democracy and there is certainly evidence that small businesses were hurt the worst and that China has played a major role in our policies. My point is that it was evil. These "evil" cows that will eat up all the fat cows and all the storehouses of food, they are evil because of evil people manipulating the situation for their own advantage despite the death and destruction that it will create.

There is another claim for why they have over hyped the response to the pandemic and that is to enforce a vaccine. Generally the vaccine is to cure the disease, but in this theory the disease is to mandate the vaccine. Much of the urgency and pressure to vaccinate is not logical nor does it respect the science. However, if the pandemic was manufactured to create an urgency for the vaccine that is a different story, then everything they have done and said makes sense. What then would be the purpose for the vaccine if not to cure the pandemic? There are several theories about that based on recent patents. I can't prove any of those theories, so I will leave it with what I can prove which is that the pandemic was hyped, the shut down was contrary to what science would recommend, and there should not be any pressure to get the vaccine. In fact based on statistical analysis and what we know about this virus I would estimate that 50% of the country should not get the vaccine, and another 25% of the country has no real compelling reason to get it. Instead I would recommend based on the data that only the high risk people with co-morbidities who have not previously had Covid19 should get the vaccine.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
2Samuel 15:1-24 -- Using “white fragility” to seize power

1 In the course of time, Absalom provided himself with a chariot and horses and with fifty men to run ahead of him.

Narcissists are very concerned with their image.

2 He would get up early and stand by the side of the road leading to the city gate. Whenever anyone came with a complaint to be placed before the king for a decision, Absalom would call out to him, “What town are you from?” He would answer, “Your servant is from one of the tribes of Israel.” 3 Then Absalom would say to him, “Look, your claims are valid and proper, but there is no representative of the king to hear you.” 4 And Absalom would add, “If only I were appointed judge in the land! Then everyone who has a complaint or case could come to me and I would see that they receive justice.”

The siren song of tyrants. Making promises that they will not keep. “Your claims are valid” based on what? He is encouraging anyone to make a claim whether valid or false. We have seen a strong encouragement for blacks to claim they have been oppressed or a victim of a hate crime. Jussie Smollett is one sad example. Another is a girl who was going to Smith college. In 2018 she claimed she was a victim of a racist attack. Four employees at Smith college were fired over the incident and then were vilified and even received death threats. So what is it that they did? A custodian saw this girl in a house that was locked up for the summer and asked her what she was doing there. However, rather than explain or apologize she claimed this was a racist attack because she is black. As a result this man and three other employees who were not involved got slandered, fired, or else felt they needed to leave. This behavior is now encouraged by Joe Biden who has said people should turn in their neighbors, coworkers and family members. Perhaps the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is the best example, a 17 year old kid accused of being a white supremacist who went to a BLM rally to shoot blacks. First the only people he shot were white, second video tape evidence corroborated eye witness accounts that he was running for his life from a mob screaming to kill him. He shot people in self defense. Then they threatened the judge and the jury to get them to convict.

5 Also, whenever anyone approached him to bow down before him, Absalom would reach out his hand, take hold of him and kiss him. 6 Absalom behaved in this way toward all the Israelites who came to the king asking for justice, and so he stole the hearts of the people of Israel.

Narcissists love people who show them honor. Anyone who is thinking rationally would see right through Abasalom, unfortunately most people only hear what they want to hear. The communists learned that giving people titles would gather all the narcissists to them. The "party members" represents 1% of the country and yet they are able to keep the 99% terrorized.

7 At the end of four years, Absalom said to the king, “Let me go to Hebron and fulfill a vow I made to the Lord. 8 While your servant was living at Geshur in Aram, I made this vow: ‘If the Lord takes me back to Jerusalem, I will worship the Lord in Hebron.’” 9 The king said to him, “Go in peace.” So he went to Hebron. 10 Then Absalom sent secret messengers throughout the tribes of Israel to say, “As soon as you hear the sound of the trumpets, then say, ‘Absalom is king in Hebron.’” 11 Two hundred men from Jerusalem had accompanied Absalom. They had been invited as guests and went quite innocently, knowing nothing about the matter. 12 While Absalom was offering sacrifices, he also sent for Ahithophel the Gilonite, David’s counselor, to come from Giloh, his hometown. And so the conspiracy gained strength, and Absalom’s following kept on increasing.

This is a stolen election. Again, most reasonable people would not pay any attention to this person, but in his mind being king is simply about sitting in the palace in Jerusalem. As long as he has the army to seize control of the palace he can accomplish that. We saw this with the media declaring certain states for Biden way before it made sense while refusing to call other states for Trump long after it was very obvious.

13 A messenger came and told David, “The hearts of the people of Israel are with Absalom.”

This is a kingdom, it isn’t even a democracy and yet David realizes how significant is popular opinion. Sadly for Abasalom he doesn’t really understand this. He sends the lie that “the hearts of the people are with him” but that is simply a lie. He doesn’t realize that when he tries to rule this will come back to haunt him. Where are the hearts of Americans today? All those media outlets that proclaimed Biden's victory have seen catastrophic drop in ratings. Americans think Biden has done a terrible job with the border, they are not happy with his handling of the economy. Not only so but they are now referring to the "Biden crime wave". F Joe Biden and "Let's Go Brandon" chants ring out spontaneously at large events.

14 Then David said to all his officials who were with him in Jerusalem, “Come! We must flee, or none of us will escape from Absalom. We must leave immediately, or he will move quickly to overtake us and bring ruin on us and put the city to the sword.”


This is what a real king is concerned about. He is concerned about the people of the city and those who are with him. Sitting in the palace is trivial by comparison. This is also ironic because in the event with Bathsheba it said that it was the season when kings go out to war and yet he stayed in his palace. If he had had the same attitude then this wouldn’t have happened. We now know that the US military captured the entire election steal (the traffic between the US and China changing the votes) yet he chose to leave the Capital. China probably thought he would stay and trigger a civil war and chaos. By leaving the US has had a chance to realize the election was stolen and Biden is a crook.

15 The king’s officials answered him, “Your servants are ready to do whatever our lord the king chooses.”


What we are seeing right now in the US is the same as this. Biden and Harris have seized control of the “palace” and Trump has had to flee with his servants. Many have claimed that Trump had to leave otherwise these leftists would have destroyed the country claiming the pandemic required a continued lockdown. After the election they changed the protocol for testing causing the number of false positives to drop dramatically. Many, many other lies have also dripped out and one by one people are realizing they were deceived and lied to.

16 The king set out, with his entire household following him; but he left ten concubines to take care of the palace. 17 So the king set out, with all the people following him, and they halted at the edge of the city. 18 All his men marched past him, along with all the Kerethites and Pelethites; and all the six hundred Gittites who had accompanied him from Gath marched before the king. 19 The king said to Ittai the Gittite, “Why should you come along with us? Go back and stay with King Absalom. You are a foreigner, an exile from your homeland. 20 You came only yesterday. And today shall I make you wander about with us, when I do not know where I am going? Go back, and take your people with you. May the Lord show you kindness and faithfulness.” 21 But Ittai replied to the king, “As surely as the Lord lives, and as my lord the king lives, wherever my lord the king may be, whether it means life or death, there will your servant be.” 22 David said to Ittai, “Go ahead, march on.” So Ittai the Gittite marched on with all his men and the families that were with him. 23 The whole countryside wept aloud as all the people passed by. The king also crossed the Kidron Valley, and all the people moved on toward the wilderness.

This sounds like the “Stop the Steal” rallies where tens of thousands even hundreds of thousands of people gathered to weep aloud. There are many things about David that violated God's law, Urriah the Hittite, Bathsheba, etc. His sins were transparent to the country, but he was a strong leader that kept the country in a good order.

24 Zadok was there, too, and all the Levites who were with him were carrying the ark of the covenant of God. They set down the ark of God, and Abiathar offered sacrifices until all the people had finished leaving the city.

What many people may not know is that the Stop the Steal rally was composed of two groups, one concerned with election fraud and the other concerned with God’s will called “Jericho March”. There were many Christians who were in these marches and a number of them were strangers to America and only came recently having seen the events that were taking place. It is not just a political move but even more people of faith carrying the Lord's testimony.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113

Intercede like Daniel, Pt. 2
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113

The words of the prophet

the video is "The only way to escape from the deadly viruses" by William Branhem about the viruses that will come in during the tribulation.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
By your faithfulness we can see you believe in God.

Entertainment starts with the word “enter” it is a witchcraft word. Enter your thought pattern, enter your life, enter your children, etc.

By our gospel you are saved if you hold firmly to the word I preach to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain.

Once saved you are saved as long as you hold firmly to the word.

Deuteronomy 28:10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you…13 The Lord will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the Lord your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.


Christianity is about discipline
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113

Intercede like Daniel, Pt. 2
Urgency

Our prayers have so much to do with the prophetic time in which we live. Daniel became urgent when he read Jeremiah saying they would be in Babylon for seventy years.

Intercession is like a mother travailing to give birth. Prayer births a revival. It is in the darkest time when people are hopeless that revival will take place. There is going to be the latter rain like the former rain. Last four chapters of Daniel are interwoven with prayer and intercession.

When you come before God it has nothing to do with your righteousness, or how long you have been a believer, or anything of your own doing. God requires that we do justly and walk humbly with our God.

Intercession is the key to open doors. Come humbly, seek the word of God, have the right view of God. Prayer is about knowing who God is. Majestic view of the almighty God.

My prayer is that all the peoples on earth will see that there are million saints who are called by the name of the Lord.

If you have one person like William Branham who is doing wonders and signs the enemy can focus his entire attack on him. But if you have a million saints all over the world standing up it is a flood, it is overwhelming. If you have 2 people they can send ten thousand to flight, but what is that to the US or to China or to the Antichrist. But multiply a million saints by 5,000 and you get 5 billion will be put to flight. No tyrant can handle that. “Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you”.

My prayer is that 1 million saints, that is only 0.01% of the world’s population. Surely there are that many real believers. We have all sinned, we have all fallen short, we have kept silent when we should have spoken, we have not responded when the Lord spoke to us to step forward. We were told to fan into flames the gift within us and we have not done it.

God will keep the covenant with us and He is a God of mercy. If we are faithful and steadfast in obeying the Lord He is righteous to answer our prayers, He is righteous to impute the blessings of the covenant and He is merciful to respond despite our failings. God's throne is a mercy seat.

My prayer is that His kingdom would come on earth as it is in heaven, that God's will would be done. God's will is that we would obey His word, that we would be His witnesses.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
2Samuel 16 -- The Equality act and Ahithophel’s advice

1 When David had gone a short distance beyond the summit, there was Ziba, the steward of Mephibosheth, waiting to meet him. He had a string of donkeys saddled and loaded with two hundred loaves of bread, a hundred cakes of raisins, a hundred cakes of figs and a skin of wine. 2 The king asked Ziba, “Why have you brought these?” Ziba answered, “The donkeys are for the king’s household to ride on, the bread and fruit are for the men to eat, and the wine is to refresh those who become exhausted in the wilderness.” 3 The king then asked, “Where is your master’s grandson?” Ziba said to him, “He is staying in Jerusalem, because he thinks, ‘Today the Israelites will restore to me my grandfather’s kingdom.’” 4 Then the king said to Ziba, “All that belonged to Mephibosheth is now yours.” “I humbly bow,” Ziba said. “May I find favor in your eyes, my lord the king.”

We have seen something similar to this recently in our political arena, right after Trump left office high ranking republicans abandoned him. There were people who never would have been elected had Trump not helped and yet the minute he is gone they are flipping to the other side supporting his being impeached, censored, etc. They are called RINOs (Republican in Name Only).

5 As King David approached Bahurim, a man from the same clan as Saul’s family came out from there. His name was Shimei son of Gera, and he cursed as he came out. 6 He pelted David and all the king’s officials with stones, though all the troops and the special guard were on David’s right and left. 7 As he cursed, Shimei said, “Get out, get out, you murderer, you scoundrel! 8 The Lord has repaid you for all the blood you shed in the household of Saul, in whose place you have reigned. The Lord has given the kingdom into the hands of your son Absalom. You have come to ruin because you are a murderer!”

We have seen this as well. The accusations that the January 6 riot was insurrection and that Trump and the Stop the Steal rally was guilty of insurrection and murder. Pelosi, Schumer and AOC would be our current version of Shimei. There are a lot of people on social media saying pretty much the same thing about Trump.

9 Then Abishai son of Zeruiah said to the king, “Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? Let me go over and cut off his head.” 10 But the king said, “What does this have to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah? If he is cursing because the Lord said to him, ‘Curse David,’ who can ask, ‘Why do you do this?’” 11 David then said to Abishai and all his officials, “My son, my own flesh and blood, is trying to kill me. How much more, then, this Benjamite! Leave him alone; let him curse, for the Lord has told him to. 12 It may be that the Lord will look upon my misery and restore to me his covenant blessing instead of his curse today.”

Many people will tell you about all of Trump’s sins. It may be that all of this that we are seeing happen is in part due to that. My understanding is that he has recently had a conversion experience. He doesn’t talk about it because he doesn’t want that to be another thing for the pundits to attack. But he seems very interested in talking to Mike Lindell about his faith and it sounded to me the way a seeker talks. Was he a sinner? Definitely, no doubt about that. Has he turned to the Lord? Don’t know, only the Lord knows that. What we do know for a fact is he has embraced many Evangelicals and stood up for things we think are right despite the political cost.

13 So David and his men continued along the road while Shimei was going along the hillside opposite him, cursing as he went and throwing stones at him and showering him with dirt. 14 The king and all the people with him arrived at their destination exhausted. And there he refreshed himself.

I like this picture. If you are taking a stand to put a stop to election fraud, or pro choice, or this equality act you will be showered with stones and dirt.

15 Meanwhile, Absalom and all the men of Israel came to Jerusalem, and Ahithophel was with him. 16 Then Hushai the Arkite, David’s confidant, went to Absalom and said to him, “Long live the king! Long live the king!” 17 Absalom said to Hushai, “So this is the love you show your friend? If he’s your friend, why didn’t you go with him?” 18 Hushai said to Absalom, “No, the one chosen by the Lord, by these people, and by all the men of Israel—his I will be, and I will remain with him. 19 Furthermore, whom should I serve? Should I not serve the son? Just as I served your father, so I will serve you.”

Absalom is a narcissist. If you compliment a narcissist, tell them all Israel supports you, that is something they cannot resist.

20 Absalom said to Ahithophel, “Give us your advice. What should we do?” 21 Ahithophel answered, “Sleep with your father’s concubines whom he left to take care of the palace. Then all Israel will hear that you have made yourself obnoxious to your father, and the hands of everyone with you will be more resolute.” 22 So they pitched a tent for Absalom on the roof, and he slept with his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel.

This is the “Equality Act”. This act makes it the law to allow anyone who identifies as a woman to share the woman’s bathroom, the locker room, to compete on their teams, etc. It is exempt from any religious exemption, so this will apply to churches and church schools. Someone told me that a boy in high school is not going to join the girls basketball team just so he could be the star. So ask yourself, you are a good basketball player, not good enough to get a scholarship to Duke, but still quite good. However, if you “identified as a girl” you could be a star on the girls basketball team and get a full scholarship to a number of universities, the scholarship could be worth $300,000. Would some boys do that? Also suppose there was a college team, their girls’ team makes millions of dollars a year in revenue. Would they be tempted to visit some kid and tell him if he identified as a woman they would give him a full scholarship? There are people who look to make money by suing people. With this law if you were to go into a church building and they refused to let you use the women’s bathroom you could sue them. If the school refused to let you go to the all girls school you could sue them. This law also pays for abortions with tax dollars so every tax payer will now be funding this murder. I heard some people disliked Trump because he didn’t pardon a man on death row who was then executed. They are against the death penalty for a murderer but support the death penalty for sixty million babies and are even going to pay to have those babies killed. Biden’s stance on abortion was crystal clear before the election, the distinction between the two candidates could not have been any clearer. Trump named three pro life judges. If you voted for Biden you voted for this. This is one example of the kinds of laws Biden and the Democrats are passing to utterly humiliate the Christians in this country. The equality act is the modern equivalent of Absalom sleeping with David's concubines.

23 Now in those days the advice Ahithophel gave was like that of one who inquires of God. That was how both David and Absalom regarded all of Ahithophel’s advice.

Sun Tzu, don’t disrespect your opponent. These people got a man who had dementia elected, that is no small feat. If you want to be the champion you have to defeat the champion. Right now we are going up against very shrewd, very wise (in a wicked and evil way) counselors. Just know that they are not wiser than Jesus. He put Satan to an open shame when He was crucified, He did it once, He’ll do it again. Only this time we will be participants in this battle and in this victory.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
Luke 12:1-15 -- There is nothing covered up that shall not be revealed

12 In the mean time,

Sounds like today. In the middle of March, 2020 the city I live in was shut down and we have basically been practicing social distancing since that time. That’s more than 20 months, I feel like we are “in the mean time”; a gap in time between the previous age which is coming to an end, and what is about to happen. There is nice saying going around "normal isn't coming back, Jesus is".

when the many thousands of the multitude were gathered together,


Today, in this “mean time”, we have thousands of people gathered together on social media. Not only so but the rallies and protests continue to grow and grow. Thousands, tens of thousands gathering in Europe, Australia and the US protesting vaccine mandates, etc.

insomuch that they trod one upon another,


No doubt. On social media we have people stepping on each other every single day. That is after all what a viral video of a “Karen” is all about. This is what Cancel culture is all about. This is what the car in Wakeusha and the deaths at the Christmas parade are all about.

he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.


Oh yes, a warning about Fake news. Hopefully by now we are all aware that much of what you read on the internet is fake and is intended to stir people up to outrage. Whether it is Russia, or China, or White Supremacists, or Antifa, etc. Every single group has an agenda. These messages, stories and videos are just like leaven. The way leaven works is that it bubbles, these bubbles cause the bread to become airy. A video going viral is like a bubble. Many of these protests look like the people are frothy. For example a Democratic representative responded to the vehicle that drove through barriers and into the parade saying "it looks like self defense". This is his attempt to stir up some froth over the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict. It is pure hypocrisy. What it really looks like is another car that ran into a crowded protest about five years ago, the event protesting a statue in which Trump said "there are good people on both sides".

2 But there is nothing covered up, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 3 Wherefore whatsoever ye have said in the darkness shall be heard in the light; and what ye have spoken in the ear in the inner chambers shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.


What a wonderful prophecy. It must have seemed impossible 2,000 years ago. In the 70s when I heard this prophecy I assumed He was talking about the Judgement seat of Christ. But now we have video cameras everywhere and police arresting a suspect in Minneapolis will be videotaped, uploaded to Youtube, shared on Facebook and viewed 100 million times by people all over the world. We are now in the fulfillment of this prophecy. In 1970 if you told me that a suspect in a counterfeit scheme died while being apprehended by the cops I wouldn’t have thought twice. But you see the George Floyd death and you get a very different perspective. Fauci tried to cover up his involvement in creating the pandemic, but that is all coming out. Hunter Biden's laptop is a treasure trove of secrets being brought to light. Recently we learned a very high ranking Chinese spy master defected to the US with a terabyte of secrets he handed over. Everything will be proclaimed from the housetops. The FBI orchestrating Jan 6, China stealing the election, it is all coming out. Today the Ghislaine Maxwell trial is starting "there is nothing covered up, that shall not be revealed".

4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will warn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, who after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.


The gospel of Luke is talking about social revolution. You can’t go down this road if you are afraid of death. It is very natural to be afraid of death, so instead you have to get a vision of what you really need to be afraid of: the judgement seat of Christ. Everyone is going to die, some live for 80 years, some live less. Jesus died in his 30s, and yet for 2,000 years we are still poring over every word He ever spoke. He squeezed more life, more word, into those 30+ years than anyone ever did in 80. There have been many martyrs in these last 2,000 years. We don’t control when we die, the only thing we have control over is today, make the most of today.

6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pence? and not one of them is forgotten in the sight of God. 7 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not: ye are of more value than many sparrows. 8 And I say unto you, Every one who shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: 9 but he that denieth me in the presence of men shall be denied in the presence of the angels of God.

Once you are truly fearful of that coming judgement your question should be “what do I do?” Confess Jesus Christ before men and repent for every time you denied Jesus in the presence of men.

10 And every one who shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven.

Everyone says dumb things at some point in their life. Confess, repent, move on. But if you set yourself to be one with Satan in opposing the move of the Lord to the extent you are claiming He is casting out demons by Beelezebul, well, I told you “it is on”. You need to back that up. You will discover that you are now fighting against God. You have just said that people are forgiven and healed by Beelezebul, you have chosen a side that has no forgiveness and no healing. We see it all the time, those on this atheistic, nihilistic, cancel culture side have no forgiveness, they tear each other apart. Think about this Democrat representative who saw a video of a car drive through the barriers and plow into a parade of dancing girls and dancing grandmas and say "it looks like self defense". He has chosen a side in which there is no forgiveness.

11 And when they bring you before the synagogues, and the rulers, and the authorities, be not anxious how or what ye shall answer, or what ye shall say: 12 for the Holy Spirit shall teach you in that very hour what ye ought to say.

This is another wonderful promise, take it by faith.

13 And one out of the multitude said unto him, Teacher, bid my brother divide the inheritance with me. 14 But he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

The whole Black Lives Matter movement gets caught up in so many dead ends. This whole push for reparations is just one example. This age is all about overcoming the evil worldly system and bringing in the kingdom in which righteousness dwells. There is a price to pay. If you get your reward in this age you forfeit your reward in the age that is to come.

15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and keep yourselves from all covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

I used to be fascinated by these big houses, fancy cars, etc. But then watching what that really means to those that have them you realize it is just a fancy prison. They are like birds caught in a cage. To have a word of life that you can speak in season, at just the right time, that is true wealth.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113

Post 2734 and this post really give you an understanding of this approaching cataclysm.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
Luke 12:57-59 This is your last chance to repent

Obadiah tells us when the day of the Lord is near. Mortgage crisis -- “too big to fail”, put that on the tombstone of the banks. Just like the boast concerning the Titanic, “the ship that even God could not sink”.

God will bring them down, He will rob them. He describes it saying “they will drink, and drink, and drink”. Because of the Covid crisis law courts are closed and there is a moratorium on evictions. Businesses aren’t paying rent, and people aren’t paying rent, so landlords aren’t paying mortgages. There is a saying “if you owe the banks $1 million you have a problem, if you owe them $1 billion the banks have a problem”. You think the Lord is going to sit by while they openly robbed widows of their houses and then the government bailed out the crooks?

The details are here: https://www.christianforums.com/blogs/obadiah-how-do-we-know-when-the-day-of-the-lord-is-near.62721/

57 And why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

I have come to the conclusion that state legislatures, governors, election officials, judges, federal legislators and even the Supreme court are being given one last chance to judge what is right. I think all of us are being given a second chance. We are seeing many, many things that should cause us to confess our sins and repent, return to the Lord. It is like watching someone take the wheel and head straight off a cliff. Is this really the way you want to go?

58 For as thou art going with thine adversary before the magistrate, on the way give diligence to be quit of him; lest haply he drag thee unto the judge, and the judge shall deliver thee to the officer, and the officer shall cast thee into prison. 59 I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou have paid the very last mite.

Don’t wait till you are dragged before the judge. Go to Jesus now, “I was wrong, have mercy on me Lord!” This is what the Festival of Trumpets is all about. “Prepare to meet thy God”. Now is the time to repent, not at the judgment seat of Christ. I believe the 2017 Revelation 12 sign that took place at the time of the festival of Trumpets kicked off this period of time where many believers have been blowing the trumpet "prepare to meet thy God".

Everyone is sure that Trump and this election is not just dead, but really, really dead. Not good enough that they certified the election, not good enough that Trump conceded, no they also want to impeach him and declare him unfit for office. It almost reminds me of Elijah pouring water from 12 pitchers onto the wood he had arranged. The only thing missing is fire falling from heaven. Now if fire does fall from heaven and the people praying for justice are raised like Lazarus from the dead (type of the rapture) that would be different. Then I would agree that it was indeed like the story with Elijah.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
The measure of your life

Luke 12:16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: 17 and he reasoned within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have not where to bestow my fruits? 18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my grain and my goods. 19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, be merry. 20 But God said unto him, Thou foolish one, this night is thy soul required of thee; and the things which thou hast prepared, whose shall they be? 21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

Imagine you were a billionaire in January of 2020 and then you lost $400 million, maybe $800 million with the stock market falling. You could have changed thousands of lives, you could have literally saved people who were starving, about to be evicted, or unable to pay tuition. You could literally have 2,000 people show up to testify on your behalf at the judgement seat of Christ, but instead you tried to hold onto that money and ‘poof’ it is gone. At the end of the age the Lord will bring a wrecking ball to the world's economy, a condemned building.

22 And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Be not anxious for your life, what ye shall eat; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. 23 For the life is more than the food, and the body than the raiment. 24 Consider the ravens, that they sow not, neither reap; which have no store-chamber nor barn; and God feedeth them: of how much more value are ye than the birds! 25 And which of you by being anxious can add a cubit unto the measure of his life?

“The measure of his life”. Isn’t that a great phrase? I suppose it refers to your legacy, only a legacy is the human perspective and “the measure” sounds more like God’s perspective. It is so true, we don't care how much money a person had when we look at their "legacy". Take John D Rockefeller, he was exceptionally rich, but his legacy has very little to do with that. We consider the oil industry he built up and the money he gave away. We also consider the children he raised.

26 If then ye are not able to do even that which is least, why are ye anxious concerning the rest?

This is just amazing. He is still talking about “our Father, hallowed be thy name” versus those that want the chief seats and most respected names. The Lord is still teaching us to pray and He is telling you that “anxiety” is the killer. We hope for things we don’t see yet, we must pray by faith, love is more powerful than knowledge. But, anxiety is a killer, it is not of faith, hope or love.

27 Consider the lilies, how they grow: they toil not, neither do they spin; yet I say unto you, Even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28 But if God doth so clothe the grass in the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven; how much more shall he clothe you, O ye of little faith?

“But now the LORD said, Be it far from me; for them that honor me I will honor, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed.” 1Sam 2:30 Let God clothe you. Trust Jesus, you can’t do better than that.

29 And seek not ye what ye shall eat, and what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

Doubt and anxiety, two killers to powerful, prevailing prayer. Do you know why we doubt? Because we are not aligned with God’s will. If you know God’s will and you know His promises and your prayer is aligned with that, you will not struggle with doubt.

30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: but your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. 31 Yet seek ye his kingdom, and these things shall be added unto you.

This is a continuation on His lesson on how to pray. He said “seek and you shall find”. You need to couple that with “seek His kingdom” and “seek ye not what ye shall eat and what ye shall drink”.

32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Don’t be anxious, don’t be doubtful, don’t fear those that will kill you. This is God’s desire. He is going to make it happen. Look at how far we have already come.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
31,500
5,586
113
Straightway open up to Him

33 Sell that which ye have, and give alms; make for yourselves purses which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief draweth near, neither moth destroyeth. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Do you know why so many people are screaming about reopening even though it doesn’t make any sense at all? Do you know why NY and the rest of the country shut down when we had 3,622 cases of Covid (March 15th) but are screaming that we have to reopen when we are approaching 5,000,000 cases? Their treasure is failing, the thief is emptying their bank account every day they stay closed, just like moths eating your clothes. They are revealing where their heart is. Wail, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow in ashes, ye principal of the flock; for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are fully come, and ye shall fall like a goodly vessel. Jeremiah 25:34. In every pandemic the rulers and “shepherds” get slaughtered. The Black plague led to rebellion against the Catholic church and the Pope. It also ended serfdom. The great plague in London led to a parliamentary system of government. The beginning of democracy and the waning of the rule of kings. The Spanish flu led to an expansion of the middle class.

35 Let your loins be girded about, and your lamps burning; 36 and be ye yourselves like unto men looking for their lord, when he shall return from the marriage feast; that, when he cometh and knocketh, they may straightway open unto him.

I just love some of these phrases. “Straightway open unto him”. It has been very clear from Christian forums that many were not ready to “straightway open unto him”. If you are all in you will immediately realize the Lord is heading to Jerusalem for the last dance.

37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them sit down to meat, and shall come and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, and if in the third, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

What a wonderful promise. I have really dived into the news and social media and forums at this time. Everything is so confusing, trying to figure it out, looking at the prophecies, checking the public pronouncements with my own statistical analysis. Yet this is just one tiny little aspect, that so many are questioning this or that, trying to sow doubt or confusion. 2,000 years ago the Lord saw all of this, he saw those who would be sowing doubt and He gave us this wonderful promise. When I read verses like this I am just overcome, Jesus is Lord, there is no one like Him. Everyone else is distracted with the Antichrist, the mark of the beast, pre trib or post trib, and what is it that the Lord is focused on? Those servants who had their loins girded and their lamps lit and who opened to Him straightway.