Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

ZNP · Dec 3, 2021

And there were Shepherds in the field keeping watch

8 And there were shepherds in the same country abiding in the field, and keeping watch by night over their flock. 9 And an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 10 And the angel said unto them, Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: 11 for there is born to you this day in the city of David a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this is the sign unto you: Ye shall find a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, and lying in a manger. 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace among men in whom he is well pleased.
15 And it came to pass, when the angels went away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing that is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. 16 And they came with haste, and found both Mary and Joseph, and the babe lying in the manger. 17 And when they saw it, they made known concerning the saying which was spoken to them about this child. 18 And all that heard it wondered at the things which were spoken unto them by the shepherds. 19 But Mary kept all these sayings, pondering them in her heart. 20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, even as it was spoken unto them.

Isn't this wonderful if it is prophetic of today? Yes, the globalists have decreed that everyone get registered with this vaccine passport, it is a Caesar, a type of the pseudo Christ. (Caesar Augustus wanted to be seen as the Supreme spiritual leader. When Halley's comet passed by he claimed it was Julius Caesar entering heaven. This made Julius a god and by default Augustus as his heir was the son of a god.) However, at the same time that we can see all this happening we can also see that there were shepherds in the fields who were watching over the flocks. They got visions and messages from God including angels telling them of great signs.

ZNP · Dec 3, 2021

Well, what did they say about hell freezing over?

ZNP · Dec 3, 2021

Free Masons -- Understand as irrational animals do and that will destroy them

Jude 10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

Recently it has become clear that many of our world leaders, namely Obama, Biden and Harris, are Free Masons. This is a religion that teaches you are free from sin in the same way a rattlesnake is free from sin. The snake is a killer by nature, therefore it is not sin for it to kill. They understand that they are “irrational animals” hence for them to act accordingly is not sin. This is why they slander the Bible because it says that homosexual sex is sin, or that transgenderism is sin, or that murder is sin.

So why is this “irrational” since it appears to be hyper rational. A Christian will throw off every weight and encumbrance of sin in order to run the race. These ones are also running the race but they throw off the guilt of sin. But here is the major flaw, the irrationality that will destroy them. Free Masons take an oath to never testify against another Free Mason. The oath even says they would choose perjury over convicting another Free Mason of sin. So the very same religion that teaches you are “free” to do anything you wish that will make you feel good or help you advance says there is an exception and that exception is to to tell the truth concerning another Free Mason. This is like telling a snake you can bite anything you please except for me. So you bite people because it is your nature, therefore you are free from sin and yet I admit you have the power to choose who to bite and who not to. The second really big problem with this is that Free Masons are a secret society, so it is very possible a Free Mason could be on trial for a crime and the jury and judge would not know they are a Free Mason. Therefore they have hand signals they make to let other Free Mason’s know who they are. But those signals can be read by anyone which defeats the whole “secret society” gambit.

Right now we are seeing hundreds of people involved in the pedophile rings and trafficking of children being arrested. They then "flip" and testify against others, after all, they are rats by nature and that is what rats do.

So look at what Jude says: and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

Luke 19:28-48 Separating the wheat from the chaff

28 And when he had thus spoken, he went on before, going up to Jerusalem. 29 And it came to pass, when he drew nigh unto Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount that is called Olivet, he sent two of the disciples, 30 saying, Go your way into the village over against you; in which as ye enter ye shall find a colt tied, whereon no man ever yet sat: loose him, and bring him. 31 And if any one ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say, The Lord hath need of him. 32 And they that were sent went away, and found even as he had said unto them. 33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt? 34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him. 35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they threw their garments upon the colt, and set Jesus thereon.

He just gave us a parable about three different servants. This colt is also a “servant” but one on which “no man ever yet sat”. I have heard from those that raise horses that it is generally not an easy thing to ride a colt on which no man ever sat. But what I get from this is that each one of us has our place in God’s kingdom. This colt doesn’t really fit into one of the three groups that Jesus already shared, so it is the other side of the coin. On one hand we have those who have ten talents, those with five talents and those with one. On the other hand the Lord has cattle on a thousand hills and He knows each one and has a purpose for each.

36 And as he went, they spread their garments in the way. 37 And as he was now drawing nigh, even at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works which they had seen; 38 saying, Blessed is the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. 39 And some of the Pharisees from the multitude said unto him, Teacher, rebuke thy disciples. 40 And he answered and said, I tell you that, if these shall hold their peace, the stones will cry out.

I heard something that someone shared on a Youtube video. He said at the end of the age you see the angels separate out the wheat from the chaff and throw the chaff into the fire but they gather the wheat into the barns. Right now we are seeing a separation. The streets are filled with hate, riots, looting and killing. It is like the chaff is being separated out. The way they separate out the chaff is to take a big shovel full of the wheat and throw it in the air. The wind blows the chaff away. Right now the media, Youtube, and social media are acting like the wind. You see the chaff being driven by the wind into protests full of fire. Meanwhile the wheat is also being separated out. This is where the sound of praise is. People crying out peace in heaven and glory in the highest. You can also see this on Youtube, on social media, and on church broadcasts.

41 And when he drew nigh, he saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, If thou hadst known in this day, even thou, the things which belong unto peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. 43 For the days shall come upon thee, when thine enemies shall cast up a bank about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 and shall dash thee to the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

“The city” refers to Jerusalem. Jesus is drawing nigh to Jerusalem. This peace treaty that is about to be signed by the many is a very powerful indication that Jesus is drawing nigh to the city. The stolen election, the blatant fraud, the pushing of a radical Sodom and Gomorrah policy, this is all evidence that Jesus is drawing nigh and the demons are going nuts. Russia is about to attack the US and yet this is hid from the eyes of America by this corrupt propaganda wing of the deep state called "the main stream media".

45 And he entered into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold, 46 saying unto them, It is written, And my house shall be a house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of robbers.

There will be many in the “church” that will be rebuked. They have turned the Lord’s house into a den of robbers. Probably the clearest example is that of the pedophile priests in the Catholic church. About 6% of all priests were pedophiles. Instead of dealing strictly with them the Catholic leadership moved them around, trying to sweep this under the rug. They convinced victims to settle for a pittance plus an apology from the Bishop. Everything was done outside of the courts, sealed away from public scrutiny. Why did they do this? Well it appears that about 50% of priests were involved in sexual relationships, mostly with other consenting adults. Since they were supposed to have a vow of chastity it would be embarrassing to them if this were revealed and they would have been defrocked. No one ratted anyone out because they were all afraid of being exposed. This is how it becomes a den of robbers, everyone has something to hide. I have heard of 5 megachurch pastors who were involved in child trafficking and have since been convicted of their crimes in military tribunals. They "stepped down from ministry" because it is much more unsettling to criminals to see accomplices disappear without knowing who, what, when or why.

47 And he was teaching daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the principal men of the people sought to destroy him: 48 and they could not find what they might do; for the people all hung upon him, listening.

You can be sure that if you share these things that there are those in the shadows that are seeking to destroy you. Jesus going up to Jerusalem has “become personal”. The chief priests and scribes want to destroy Him and He is going to destroy them and put them to an open shame. Stick close to Jesus, stay in His wake, it will be those who hesitate that get picked off.

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They recently had a poll done in which they determined that the most important issue to the American public is the economy and inflation. There wasn't any question on the poll concerning election integrity so Matt Gaetz, a Republican congressman asked why? The response was "because Americans care about the economy"! They ask the questions in order to get the conclusion they want and to not get the conclusions they don't want.

Meanwhile on the left I hear from various "news" outlets that inflation is good because it will cause Americans to consume less. They will eat less and drive less.

What we are seeing is a division in this country between those in power who are hearing only what they want to hear and the "deplorables", the people hanging on every word from the Lord.

For example a judge recently put a stop to government vaccine mandates for corporations because the facts are that people with the vaccine can catch and transmit Covid. Yet at the same time we are seeing Nevada decide that there will be a monthly surcharge to workers who are not vaccinated, Greece has a similar law and Austria has a national mandate for the vaccine. In Australia they are rounding people up and putting them into quarantine camps for two weeks even if they test negative. Biden is banning flights from six countries in Africa. Think about this, you can't fly unless you are vaccinated and yet they are still banning flights from these six countries, four of which do not have a single case of the variant that they are worried about.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

I have spoken I will also bring it to pass

Bayesian analysis of the prophecies

(To make this easier to calculate all numbers will be simple factors of 10)

1. Jesus born in Bethlehem -- 1 / 100,000

(how many people are born in Bethlehem divided by all the people on Earth)

2. He would be heir to king David's throne -- 1/ 100

(No doubt the majority of those born in Bethlehem were of the line of Judah, but I am looking at this from all human history since the prophecy was made and for the last 2,000 years this is not true. In fact after the diaspora Jews can no longer trace their family history)

3. God would call His Son out of Egypt -- 1 / 1000

(Again I am being extremely generous in all of these calculations. Compare the population of Egypt about 100 billion with the population of the world, about 7.5 billion and it gives you a rough estimate of 75:1. However, many of those in Egypt were born there, all of those would be eliminated. Then of those in Egypt who were not born there how many are called out to come to Israel?)

4. Jesus birthplace would be marked by a massacre of children -- 1/10,000

(How many massacres have happened in Bethlehem? Not only so, what are the odds of a massacre taking place in a small town like Bethlehem of children? In the US we had a massacre of adults in Las Vegas at a concert. We have had a number of school shootings that do not even approach this massacre in size and this is despite the population being far greater than it was at the time of Jesus. Not only so but the massacre would have to be at the same time of Jesus otherwise it wouldn't have been a sign)

5. He would speak in parables -- 1 / 1,000

(We have had many great leaders, how many have spoken in parables? There are currently 7.5 billion people on this earth, do you think 7.5 million speak in parables? There have been a few philosophers who have, but for the most part other than Christian pastors expounding on Jesus' parables this is rare).

6. Messiah's price for betrayal would be 30 pieces of silver and used to buy the potter's field -- 1/1,000,000

(I suspect the odds are less than this but I am using a million as my limit for extremely specific and rare prophecies. Yes, 30 pieces of silver was a set price in Israel, yet how many of those who got this money would have used it to buy a potter's field? This might be the only time in history so I am being extremely generous).

7. Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. -- 1/100,000

(People getting murdered or tortured is not this rare, however, this is a very specific torture. It might take place in addition to crucifixion, yet it would be very unique. Pulling fingernails, waterboarding, etc. are all examples of torture. Never heard of them piercing hands and feet in Gitmo or some other place of torture. Still crucifixion was practiced for a brief time in history but even then I suspect it was used on less than 1 in a 100 in the Roman Empire. So then it was only used on a portion of the world's population for a small portion of the world's history.)

8. Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's clothes -- 1 / 100

(Soldiers would apparently divide up the belongings of those they crucified. However, this coat was of very high quality which is why they didn't want to divide it up. I suspect that is rare among those being crucified, however I am going to include the prophecy that his bones will not be broken in this number and that he would be given vinegar to drink).

9. He would be buried with the rich. -- 1/10

(I have already factored in the odds on crucifixion, I suspect the odds of someone being crucified and buried with the rich is much bigger. My point here is that the rich represent 10% so you have a 1/10 odds of being buried with them).

Total odds of these 9 points taking place

1/10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

How big is that number? Imagine you had 1,000 containers the size of the earth. You filled each container with dice, and every one of these was a cubic centimeter. One of these dice is marked. What are the odds of finding that particular die?

Isaiah 46:8 Remember this, and [a]show yourselves men; bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me; 10 declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure; 11 calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man of my counsel from a far country; yea, I have spoken, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed, I will also do it.

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This brother shares 9 prophecies fulfilled at the time of 9/11 which he calls harbingers that judgement is coming on the US.

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Signs of the Lord's coming

Hann57 · Dec 4, 2021

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1 Corinthians 10 -- The Lord’s table is the only feast day that we, as Christians, are required to keep. Colossians tells us that these feast days are a shadow of things to come. On the one hand this feast reminds us of the passover, the feast of unleavened bread, the feast of the new fruits and the feast of Pentecost. It reminds us of our journey out of Egypt and into the good land. On the other hand this feast is a rehearsal for the Lord’s coming as the king and the bridegroom. That is the festival of Trumpets. It also reminds us of the day of judgement, the feast of atonement, because we must judge ourselves before partaking and if we partake in an unworthy manner we will be judged. A holy convocation is a “dress rehearsal”. Every time we partake of the Lord’s table we are practicing for when we will partake with the Lord who has returned as both the bridegroom and the Lord of all. We are told in this chapter that we will not be tested beyond what we are able but with every trial God will make a way of escape. So this also points to the coming rapture in which we will escape. We are also told that the gentiles sacrifice to idols and demons. There is one day that all Christians and only Christians keep, that is the Lord’s table. In contrast to that day there is one day that all idol worshippers and demon worshippers keep and that is Halloween. So there is a very interesting contrast between the Old and New Testaments. In both the Old and New testaments the Jewish feast days are a shadow of things to come. The Jews must keep all of these days and yet Christians are only to keep one day, the Lord’s table. Is it possible that these three coming feasts could all take place on the same day? Actually the Festival of Trumpets and the Feast of Atonement are both on the same day if it is a jubilee year. So it is certainly possible that two of the three could be on the same day. Then there are two different calendars, one from Enoch and one from Moses. Obviously the Jews have to observe the calendar from Moses but the church is composed of both Jews and Gentiles, so it is reasonable that where these two walls have been joined that these two calendars would coincide. Jude, Peter, John and Paul all attest that Enoch was divinely inspired. In the Fall of 2020 the tenth day of the seventh month according to Enoch’s calendar is the fifteenth day of the seventh month according to Moses' calendar. Since this is a Jubilee year the tenth day is both the festival of trumpets and the feast of atonement and the fifteenth day is the feast of weeks. Interestingly there is a third calendar, the one the world uses now. At sundown on October 30th of 2020 we had these three feast days all at the same time and also at the same time that the world celebrates Halloween. However, Halloween is always celebrated at night on the 31st, the resurrection, a type of the rapture, is always in the early morning. Immediately after that first rapture he that restrains will be taken away and the man of lawlessness and all the demons are set free on earth. Interestingly October 31st was a Saturday, this is named after Saturn which depicts Satan. It is also a Sabbath day. In conclusion October 31st 2020 was a great sign, a shadow of things to come.

1Corinthians 11:23-34 -- Do this in remembrance of Me. Yes, the Lord’s table is a rehearsal for the wedding, and it is a time for us to practice blowing the trumpet to announce the coming of the King. But, according to these verses we are proclaiming the Lord’s death until He comes. We are being reminded every time of how he was betrayed. We learned in the 1Corinthians 10 that when you eat and drink the Lord’s table you have fellowship with Him and you become one with Him. We are proclaiming that we are one with the crucified savior who was betrayed. We are also told we must all eat together like one family looking out for each other.

1Corinthians 12 -- There are two messages in the world. Some are saying “Jesus is accursed” and others are saying “Jesus is Lord”. Would you let someone who wishes to curse you and your family take care of your kids? When your kids watch TV or use the internet there are only two possible messages they are hearing. We have many different gifts in the body, Mister Rogers showed how you could have a TV show with the message “to love your neighbor as yourself”. He was a gift to the body. We have school teachers, we have people in every walk of life. We need every member and every gift. In this sense we are inclusive. However, the body has a defense system that will protect it from anything that wishes to curse the body. We need to identify the Spirit. An eyeball is very different from an ear which is very different from a foot. But the spirit is the same, in each case “Jesus is Lord” or in the analogy they each take their orders from the head. In the same way the body of Christ can be very diverse in the members, in the gifts and in the manifestation of those gifts, yet in every case the spirit is the same: “Jesus is Lord”.

Not one verse in the Bible is there a mention of "The Rapture"

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Hann57 said:

I specifically use "rapture" in the title because it is controversial, however, in several of my posts I make it very clear that my understanding of this term is "the redemption of our body". In other posts I include the "harpazo" -- snatching away. We are now at Post #2,890 so I won't go into all the various ways in which I view this including Day of the Lord, etc. But suffice it to say the vast majority of these posts provide numerous verse references, the few that don't are links to events taking place right now that we were told to watch for as signs of the Lord's coming.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

Mine eyes have seen your salvation

Luke 2:
21 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

Jesus Presented in the Temple
22 When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”

25 Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah. 27 Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts. When the parents brought in the child Jesus to do for him what the custom of the Law required, 28 Simeon took him in his arms and praised God, saying:

29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”
33 The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. 34 Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, 35 so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too.”

36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37 and then was a widow until she was eighty-four. She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38 Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem.

39 When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. 40 And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was on him.

We also have the same thing happening today. Ken Peters and Dimitri Duduman both had very specific prophecies concerning the coming of the Lord. Jonathan Cahn has a best selling series of books that begins with the Harbinger showing how 9/11 was a harbinger of the Lord's coming. Just like the Lord's first coming we have had numerous prophets come forward with prophecies concerning this being the Day of the Lord and the Day of His coming.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

The People woke up

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

Joshua 2 -- Time to cut a deal

1 And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, Go view the land, even Jericho. And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.

This book gives us the battle plan. The first place we come to is a cursed city, a walled city, and when we spy this out we come to a harlot’s house. A harlot is a person who is for sale. Right now it has become abundantly clear that many of our politicians are for sale. The Hunter Biden laptop and Anthony Weiner laptop is merely the tip of this iceberg. The difficulty we are seeing in having our elected officials deal with the obvious cases of voter fraud is further evidence that they have sold themselves. We now have a Chinese spy who has defected and has the names of every government official working with China. There have already been over 700 arrests.

2 And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, Behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country. 3 And the king of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, Bring forth the men that are come to thee, which are entered into thine house: for they be come to search out all the country.

Yes, right now we are searching out the entire country for their corruption and sin. The January 6th hearing indicates that Pelosi and the rulers of Jericho are searching out the city for the spies, the ones who are gathering the information on election fraud, criminal involvement with Russia and China among the elites, the pedophile ring connected to Epstein island, and of course the biologic warfare associated with this pandemic and the vaccine.

4 And the woman took the two men, and hid them, and said thus, There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were: 5 And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out: whither the men went I wot not: pursue after them quickly; for ye shall overtake them. 6 But she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of flax, which she had laid in order upon the roof.

I went to six of these protests concerning this election and you can see a lot of the focus is on the elected officials. There are calls to “primary them” or to vote them out of office, or to prosecute them. What we need to realize is that some of these officials, these “harlots” are courageous. They are doing the right thing but they are not fools. There are people in the FBI, in the CIA, in various government positions who are doing the right thing.

7 And the men pursued after them the way to Jordan unto the fords: and as soon as they which pursued after them were gone out, they shut the gate. 8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof; 9 And she said unto the men, I know that the Lord hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you.

It is so obvious that they are terrified and faint. Their ratings are plummeting but they are silent because they don’t know what to do about it. They have tried to steer people away from these stories with their algorithms or to censor the stories and that has only blown up in their face. It has caused a stampede to sites like Rumble. They can’t control the story, they can’t censor it, they can’t deny it, and they can’t ignore it with thousands of emails and phone calls every day to the representatives and with the protestors on the street. Steve Bannon's broadcast just went over 120 million! Meanwhile CNN can't get 800,000 viewers.

10 For we have heard how the Lord dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.

This country has had a history of conquering tyrannical rulers. We defeated King George in the Revolutionary war when the British were the superpower of the day and we defeated Germany and Japan during WWII. This is a constant refrain from the protestors, some are calling this 1775, others are pointing to their military service to uphold democracy. Arizona audit is a major victory. The convictions of hundreds of criminals in these military tribunals is a victory.

11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the Lord your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.

The protestors are people of faith. They sing hymns, they pray prayers, they quote scripture. The heart of these corrupt officials has melted. They know these people won't quit and can't be bought and now they know the truth.

12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the Lord, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token: 13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death.

Giuliani said he had 234 affidavits, a week later he said he had over 1,000 affidavits, later he said he had 2,000. People are cutting deals, they are lawyering up and exchanging immunity for their testimony. Last I heard he has over 5,000 affidavits.

14 And the men answered her, Our life for yours, if ye utter not this our business. And it shall be, when the Lord hath given us the land, that we will deal kindly and truly with thee. 15 Then she let them down by a cord through the window: for her house was upon the town wall, and she dwelt upon the wall. 16 And she said unto them, Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you; and hide yourselves there three days, until the pursuers be returned: and afterward may ye go your way.

These things take time, and we are seeing that those who do testify have to hide their identity because they receive a whole host of threats against themselves and their family and because the media will viciously attack and defame anyone who does come forward.

17 And the men said unto her, We will be blameless of this thine oath which thou hast made us swear. 18 Behold, when we come into the land, thou shalt bind this line of scarlet thread in the window which thou didst let us down by: and thou shalt bring thy father, and thy mother, and thy brethren, and all thy father's household, home unto thee. 19 And it shall be, that whosoever shall go out of the doors of thy house into the street, his blood shall be upon his head, and we will be guiltless: and whosoever shall be with thee in the house, his blood shall be on our head, if any hand be upon him.

No double crossing or back stabbing.

20 And if thou utter this our business, then we will be quit of thine oath which thou hast made us to swear. 21 And she said, According unto your words, so be it. And she sent them away, and they departed: and she bound the scarlet line in the window.

This is the problem that these crooks and thieves have. Yes, these government officials are “harlots” but some of them are also people with a conscience and they can see how this war is going to go. How do you win, you are trapped in your little city. They can only operate in the dark, what happens when the spotlight is on them?

22 And they went, and came unto the mountain, and abode there three days, until the pursuers were returned: and the pursuers sought them throughout all the way, but found them not. 23 So the two men returned, and descended from the mountain, and passed over, and came to Joshua the son of Nun, and told him all things that befell them: 24 And they said unto Joshua, Truly the Lord hath delivered into our hands all the land; for even all the inhabitants of the country do faint because of us.

Every single day the story gets bigger, the evidence grows, the hearings are public, and everyone accused of criminal behavior has fainted. There was a period there where everything was silent, the spies were still trying to get back to Joshua. But now we see everything going public, Durham, Maxwell, January 6, etc. Where are those accused of criminal behavior? Why haven’t they denied the charges? Why are they not refuting the allegations of fraud and misconduct? I haven't heard Clinton deny the charges of Pedophilia, I haven't heard Pelosi deny the charges of her corruption, yesterday I heard Biden talking and my wife and I were stunned, that did not sound anything like Biden. The book "Laptop from Hell" is a runaway best seller, why isn't Biden denying the charges?

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September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

This is not a rah rah posting, but rather a far more critical and careful assessment.

Also, please note this was made July 2017, so this was made prior to the pandemic, the vaccine mandate, and all the other signs we have seen since then. Hindsight is 20/20 so this gives us a great idea of how people struggle with these signs as they first appear.

Scott Clarke has been speaking on this since 2011

Robert Breaker has been posting many youtube videos on the Lord's coming since 2014.

Steve Cioccolanti the third major voice on this.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

What I find quite interesting is to get the big events. When they use all these numbers they keep using every day imaginable.

But the big days:

Jesus Crucifixion
The building of the abomination of desolation on the temple mount
The return of Israel on May 14, 1948
The Jews win the six day war in 1967
Revelation 12 sign on Sept 23, 2017

If you want to play around with the numbers given by Daniel then you should be looking at these dates.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

ZNP said:

I disagree with the premises presented at the 12 minute mark. It may be an accurate summary of the teaching of those three brothers but it isn't an accurate summary of my understanding.

Premise #1 -- 23 September 2017 is the sign in the heavens that John mentions in Revelation 12 of a woman crowned with 12 stars, clothed with the sun and in labor to give birth.

Premise #2 -- I disagree with the typology, slightly. I compare this birth with the Lord's birth. The woman, like Mary, are those who have received the Lord's word concerning the Messiah, She does not represent the Jews, she represents all those who believe Jesus is the Messiah. The man child refers to those who are the first fruits. Those who are raptured prior to the tribulation. The Jews, like Joseph, are those who will see these signs and be convinced to realize that the Christians are in fact of God. Like Joseph they were of the line that was cut off from David's kingship but through the marriage with the Christians they will be returned to the original covenant.

Premise #3 -- These events do not predict the 'date", instead they are a major sign that this tribulation is about to begin. When we see this sign the labor pains are about to start.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

ZNP said:

Problems

1. Constellation confusion --

A. First issue is that the software may not be precise enough to accurately go back 2,000 years. I think this is a trivial issue. One of the tangential teachings related to this sign is that there were similar signs at the time of Jesus birth and at the time of Adam and Eve. What is truly important is that this sign has not appeared in the last few hundred years and won't appear in the next few hundred years.

B. He says the Zodiac is based on Astrology. I strongly disagree with that. Rather I would say Astrology is the attempt by Satan to distract God's people from seeing the signs in the heavens. The Bible is crystal clear that God created the stars to be signs. He glosses over the "gospel in the stars" a major revelation. He says that looking at the origin of the zodiac it is primarily used in Astrology. I would say that is false and can be proven to be false. The origin is given in Genesis 1 when God created the stars and He said they were there for signs and seasons. The calendar of the Jews was based on the Sun, Moon and Stars. Psalms says they declare His handiwork and in fact the gospel told in the Mazzaroth (Jewish term for the Zodiac) is incredible. That is the origin of the zodiac. Astrology is the enemies attempt to corrupt that.

C. He has a problem with referring to the three planets as "stars'. The Bible clearly refers to planets as "wandering stars". It is these planets along with Jupiter that makes this sign so unique. Every single year Virgo is clothed with the Sun with the moon under her feet. That is not unique. What is unique is the 12 stars in the crown and Jupiter in the womb for 9 months. Also if he wants to say that the Biblical term we interpret as "stars" has to refer to big balls of gas with nuclear fusion then he has a huge problem in Revelation when the stars are cast to the Earth. If one star were cast to earth we would be burned up and destroyed. Compared to the very smallest star the Earth would be obliterated. The Bible refers to any lights including meteors, fireballs and comets as stars.

In brief I think a more detailed understanding of God's use of the stars for signs based on "The Gospel in the Stars" will eliminate these concerns.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#2 -- Bandwagon Eschatology

Here he is warning to not follow something that is trendy or "punchy". Don't be afraid to listen to those who have an opposing point of view. Truth can withstand the challenges of opposing views.

This has now been 4 years, we have seen the pandemic prophesied of in Joel, the worldwide shutdown of the economy, the vaccine mandate, the stolen election, the 9 harbingers related to 9/11, Transhumanism, and many other signs all confirming this sign in 2017.

ZNP · Dec 4, 2021

September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#3 -- Conspiracy theory convergence

This is like forcing a square peg into a round hole. Another way to look at this is allegorical teachings are stretchy, they can be stretched to fit over anything. You have to have the black and white teachings along with the allegories. For example, my tieing Revelation 12 sign to Jesus' birth is allegorical, it is a picture. However, going over the response the Lord gave in Matthew 24 when the disciples asked "When will these things be" that is the black and white teaching. The two Fig tree prophecies are a great example, rumors of war is another, false Christs rising to say "follow me" is another. Allegories are used to fill in the background of the picture, the black and white teachings should be the foreground that stand out, the solid figures. Nothing causes teachings and teachers to go off the deep end more than taking allegorical teachings to fit whatever it is you want them to fit.

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