Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#4 -- Eschatological Myopia

There is more than one way to interpret Revelation 12 sign. I have covered at least 3 ways and my own unique interpretation was a result of considering other interpretations. The people who interpret the man child as referring to Jesus do so because it says "He is to rule all the nations". Others interpret the man child as the church because he is "snatched up". Therefore they interpret the woman as Israel. I don't see the church as the baby of the Jews but I also ask what about the Jews, where are they? If this is the fulfillment of the Feast of Trumpets they should be there too.

When you combine this vision with the Lord's birth it makes perfect sense. You can see where the Jews are, they are Joseph in the story. The woman becomes all those believers who are left behind during the tribulation.

That said there is one compelling failure in my interpretation. That is that a woman is unclean for seven days after giving birth to a manchild. If the tribulation refers to this seven year period then the woman refers to all of God's people collectively. And that is what is amazing about allegories, they are really stretchy and can have dual meanings.

I am aware of the shortcomings of all these interpretations. I don't like saying the manchild is the church since only one of the seven churches in Revelation is said to be raptured as a church, and it ignores all those who are beheaded during the tribulation because they won't take the mark of the beast. I also don't like saying that the woman is Israel because although we are children of Abraham the Lord also said it would be as the days of Noah and Noah is a representative of all people, not just Jews. I have no issue with the Jews being included in the woman but think it is more universal than just the Jews. However the picture could also be seen to tell us that this woman is a river crosser, that is a Hebrew. So if you wanted to say she is a Hebrew, that is fine as long as you understand we are talking spiritually and not according to the flesh.
 

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Ron Matsen makes an excellent point (The Forge with Ron Matsen #4) at 35 minute mark that you have to be concerned with how this one interpretation will impact every other scripture in the Bible.

The reason I started this blog was because I saw the pandemic as a sign that the day of the Lord was at hand according to Joel. I felt the problem with every single eschatological teaching I had ever seen was that it is like a wobbly table.

I think a better analogy would be a Fusion reactor. If you are not familiar the problem with a Fusion reactor is trying to contain the reaction. The temperature is so great it will melt any containment device and yet you need really great pressures. They try to achieve this with a gravitational field but it is exceedingly difficult. You don't need three or four legs to make this thing stand, you need thousands.

So then I decided to just go through the Bible, verse by verse looking for any and all possible verses that could be relevant. I did that until the Lord told me I had enough. He didn't say I had them all, only that it was time to move onto phase two.

In other words before you try to come up with some grand overarching theory on the end times make sure you know all the relevant verses. Not simply two or three, but hundreds of verses.
 

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September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#5 -- Tribulation timeline trouble

He says you need to have a view of every end time event with each one slotted into its place. I have tried to simplify this problem by focusing on the rapture prior to the tribulation. I have discussed other events like the judgement of the Great Babylon, the Gog Magog war in Ezekiel 38, the Mark of the The Beast, and Transhumanism because although these events are front and center in the Tribulation prior to the tribulation you can see the ground being laid for them.

So the issue he has is that the 70th week is 7 years and begins with the Antichrist making a covenant with the many. To me this is another example of "here a little, there a little". The Feast of Trumpets does not have to mark the beginning of the tribulation. The Feast of Trumpets is 10 days before the Feast of Atonement, this could refer to ten years, not 7. Also, the Revelation 12 sign did not appear at the Feast of Trumpets in 2017, it was two days later. If it had been 1 day later you might think it was the same day but it was most certainly immediately after that and it was a "sign". When you drive down the highway you don't see a sign for NYC right next to the Empire State building. You see a sign a hundred miles from NYC. The signs always precede the events. Read the Harbinger and listen to Jonathan Cahn, there is an amazing number of signs given to us on 9/11 -- The Pentagon building laid their foundation stone (with the FreeMason ceremony) on 9/11, Bush gave an important speech eleven years before on 9/11, you had the event on 9/11, and then the ambassador to work out the exit strategy with Afghanistan did that on 9/11 and finally our exit from Afghanistan had a deadline of 9/11.

I much prefer to look at events which have happened as hindsight is 20/20. I have heard way too much speculation about what is going to happen with great authority and certainty even though they can't tell you the first thing that happens, the rapture.

I have seen this with people claiming the vaccine is the mark of the beast ignoring the fact that everyone is warned not to get the mark, that it is rolled out by the Antichrist, and that if you don't get it you get your head chopped off. When you bring this up they say what they should have said at the beginning that it is the precursor to the mark. Are they laying the ground work for the mark of the beast? Absolutely. Is this the Mark? No. This is not a trivial dispute because getting the mark of the beast forfeits your salvation. You can imagine why people would be very upset with this teaching.
 

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September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#6 -- Expositional Consistency

What he is talking about here is the danger of using allegory to build a doctrine. He goes to the first use in the Bible principle. I will use that principle but think it is not a strong enough guard rail. You lean on that you are likely to fall right out of the fifth floor window. Instead I feel that all doctrine needs to be built on black and white teachings. Allegories color in the picture, but the doctrine needs to be black and white.

For example, many of those who are watching for the Lord's return have gone in deep on the Jewish festivals. It is a wonderful study, very profitable and beneficial, but trying to say that you are going to find a prophetic reference to the pre-tribulation rapture in those festivals makes no sense. Paul told us in the black and white teaching in Colossians that yes, those feasts are a shadow of things to come and yet he also told us not to let anyone judge you concerning them. If they were relevant to the rapture of the saints why would Paul say that?

One teaching I have seen quite prevalent is focusing on "the days of Noah". The Lord says "it will be like the days of Noah". The language is very clear "like" or "as". The end of the age will be a judgement on this earth as it was at the time of Noah. God's faithful believers will be preachers of righteousness and build the church just like Noah built the ark. There are many correlations, but you are stretching it to say that the rapture is the 17th of Chesvan or the 27th of Chesvan or whatever. Is it the day they got on the ark? Is it the day they got off the ark? Is it the day the flood started? How about the day God removed the roof?

This is the big problem with allegories I can get them to say whatever I want. The solution is begin with the black and white teaching, that is what I want to say, now do the allegories add any shades of meaning? I can say a lot about how today is as the days of Noah and as the days of Lot, but not in a way that I would predict the day of the rapture.

For example, think of this story of Noah and all these Jewish festivals as "old wine skins holding old wine". We are a new wine skin, it is different, but you still make wine the same way you did when you made the old wine, so it is as the days that that wine was made only this time it is a new wine skin and new wine. We are the church, why would we share the same special day as the Jews? Two different covenants, two different people, two different days.

So he likens this Revelation 12 sign to Joseph's dream and goes into the basis for saying that this woman is Israel. This doesn't quite fit, Joseph said they were bowing to him and yet he should be one of the twelve stars on her crown. Also Israel brings forth the church in the same way that Joseph is married to Mary, Jesus is born of God not Joseph and the believers are born of God not Israel. This is why I have a problem with "first mention". Instead in this case I would say there are four pictures that go together. First in Genesis God talks about the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent, then Joseph's dream, the account of Jesus being born in the gospels, and then Revelation 12 sign. This is a "great sign" just as this mystery is Great but I speak with regards to Christ and the Church.
 

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September 23rd, 2017 -- The Sign -- from Revelation 12

Problems

#7 -- What do these prophets promise?

I find it very abusive that anyone teaching about these things and looking and considering things like this Revelation 12 sign are no longer Bible teachers but are not "prophets". The history of the church has been struggling doctrines. 'Once saved always saved" is one example, "justification by faith" is another example, "the oneness of the church" is a third. This is why I rejected the premise that this sign tells us when the rapture is, rather I see it as a sign telling us when the ten days of awe are. Instead of saying that the Feast of Trumpets was fulfilled on September 23, 2017 that wouldn't make sense and wouldn't be fair. You put a sign up two days after the feast of trumpets saying that we just passed the exit? No, this sign went up in front of the exit. We were given an entire year (at least, though that would be consistent with the fig tree prophecy) to figure out what this sign means.

I find it amazing that Ron Matsen would speak through the same ministry as Chuck Missler. Engineers and mathematicians are taught to diagram out problems and try different solutions to see if they work. This is not a finished doctrine and anyone who has studied church doctrine knows that these doctrines took decades and centuries to be hammered out. How do you on one hand teach various eschatological teachings knowing that Bible teachers have two or three different plausible interpretations and yet you have a problem with these brothers realizing this is significant but they aren't sure exactly what it means. I found this video from Ron Matsen very helpful, very solid teaching, but this one point is, to my mind the one that should be dumped in the trash.

He is trying to say that the birth of the manchild is a reference to the rapture (I agree -- being snatched up and rescued from the dragon is a picture of the rapture) and yet waffles on saying if that means the rapture is Sept 23, 2017. That is really offensive to me. It is a sign, we are told specifically that it is a sign and yes it is telling us the rapture is up ahead. You can combine this sign with the three other stories concerning the Seed of the Woman, Joseph's dream, the birth of Jesus in the gospels and there is a lot of insight into the rapture. But that doesn't mean it would be September 23, 2017. Would that date be consistent with the other three pictures? The answer is no. Wouldn't God want to give us a chance to digest this? Yes. Is it fair to reject these brothers who are digging into this because they are still not clear what it means? No.
 

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They're Back!

Luke 11:24 The unclean spirit when he is gone out of the man, passeth through waterless places, seeking rest, and finding none, he saith, I will turn back unto my house whence I came out. 25 And when he is come, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more evil than himself; and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man becometh worse than the first.

We are seeing this play out right now. Over the last 4 years we kicked out a whole lot of unclean spirits from our country, and our country was swept and garnished. Economy performed better than ever, especially in the inner city and among minorities. But now what is happening? The border is thrown open and it is not simply refugees coming across, the refugees present themselves to the authorities, they have nothing to fear and will be shipped around the country. No, we have had 250,000 "got aways" these are criminals who cannot show up to the authorities because we have their fingerprints and mugshots. They have come back with all of their friends just like the Lord said.

What you heard for the previous 4 years were the demons and evil spirits crying and screaming about being kicked out of the country. Well, "they're back"! And it will be seven fold worse than it was.

I see videos of smash and grab thugs and turns out we just released them from jail. We have a guy who had multiple felonies and they released him so he could then take his car and drive it through a parade. Six dead and 62 injured. Another man is let out and goes on a stabbing spree in NYC. They're back!
 

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They're Back!

Luke 11:24 The unclean spirit when he is gone out of the man, passeth through waterless places, seeking rest, and finding none, he saith, I will turn back unto my house whence I came out. 25 And when he is come, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more evil than himself; and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man becometh worse than the first.

We are seeing this play out right now. Over the last 4 years we kicked out a whole lot of unclean spirits from our country, and our country was swept and garnished. Economy performed better than ever, especially in the inner city and among minorities. But now what is happening? The border is thrown open and it is not simply refugees coming across, the refugees present themselves to the authorities, they have nothing to fear and will be shipped around the country. No, we have had 250,000 "got aways" these are criminals who cannot show up to the authorities because we have their fingerprints and mugshots. They have come back with all of their friends just like the Lord said.

What you heard for the previous 4 years were the demons and evil spirits crying and screaming about being kicked out of the country. Well, "they're back"! And it will be seven fold worse than it was.

I see videos of smash and grab thugs and turns out we just released them from jail. We have a guy who had multiple felonies and they released him so he could then take his car and drive it through a parade. Six dead and 62 injured. Another man is let out and goes on a stabbing spree in NYC. They're back!
Up to 400 sledge hammers stolen by smash and grab thieves on Black Friday in LA

https://rumble.com/vq5wxf-fox-11-los-angeles-smash-and-grab-robberies-just-wont-stop.html

Analysis of this knife attack in Brooklyn

https://rumble.com/vpyccf-violence-...nse-003-brooklyn-man-is-stabbed-to-death.html
 

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Interesting declaration by the UN trying to take away authority over Jerusalem from Israel
 

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Daniel 5:1-6 -- The writing on the wall

1 King Belshazzar gave a great banquet for a thousand of his nobles and drank wine with them.2 While Belshazzar was drinking his wine, he gave orders to bring in the gold and silver goblets that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken from the temple in Jerusalem, so that the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines might drink from them.3 So they brought in the gold goblets that had been taken from the temple of God in Jerusalem, and the king and his nobles, his wives and his concubines drank from them. 4 As they drank the wine, they praised the gods of gold and silver, of bronze, iron, wood and stone.

This is an act of blasphemy against God. However, I doubt this is the only act of blasphemy, rather I suspect this was the final straw. Everyone is quite animated with this election year, the things that President Trump has done has motivated everyone. People feel vehemently one way or the other concerning him. He has said some very offensive things. For example he recently claimed that mail in ballots would not be secure and would be subject to fraud. Wow, what a reaction that brought. Fraud is incredibly rare. Now they are very specific when they say that. What is incredibly rare is a person trying to vote twice. But election fraud in this country, rare? That is an insult to our intelligence. In 1948 we had the box 13 scandal where Lyndon Johnson stole that election. JFK won his election over Nixon because he won Illinois, and Texas. Both of these were razor thin margins and the feeling is that dirty tricks by Daley and LBJ’s apparatus made the difference. Then of course JFK was assassinated and the American people were force fed the “Oswald is a lone gunman” even though it was laughable. During the Watergate investigation with Nixon one of his operatives outlined all the dirty tricks that he used but seemed to feel that what he was doing wasn’t all that bad as “everyone does this”. Reagan beat Carter in his first term because of the oil embargo. It was the 70s and it seemed the world was running out of oil. What happened to that? The whole thing was a lie. Kissinger working with OPEC had different refineries shut down to make it appear there was a shortage of oil. They were willing to shoot the US economy in the foot to undermine Carter. In 2000 we had the debacle in Florida with Bush and Gore. It is very important that US elections appear fair and free but anyone who has been paying attention knows they aren’t. They know in key swing states there are ridiculously long lines at inner city polling stations. In other countries election day is a vacation, not in the US. So this is how they lie to you. In a tight election it will all hinge on one or two states. You don’t need to have fraud in 48 states, so right away if you say that 96% of the elections are free and fair that is true, even if there is fraud in every single election. Then even in a state like Florida you don’t need to do anything about 96% of the vote. If the election is tight less than 1% will swing it one way or the other. The Box 13 scandal involved 200 votes, that is all it took. So I can tell you that 99.9% of votes are not fraudulent, so what, it is that 0.1% that swings the vote. So the point is not to debate each and every election as to whether or not there was fraud, the point is that election fraud can be exceedingly rare and at the same time extremely common. It can be rare that any one vote is fraudulent but at the same time very common that election fraud takes place, even “everybody does it”. So a month ago the Democrats were telling everybody that you don’t need to worry, election fraud is very rare, and then a month later they are screaming that this election will be stolen by fraud. Which is it? If you tell me you are worried about election fraud this election I fully agree with you. But shouldn’t the Democrats apologize for saying not to worry? In my opinion the election fraud we have seen over the last 72 years is like seeing little termites run around. This year it will be like falling through the floor and discovering your whole house has been eaten up by termites.

But that is only an indication of the depth of the corruption. The Ghislaine Maxwell trial is revealing how utterly despicable and wicked the elites are. Epstein island has a pagan temple where they perform Satanic rituals which include drinking blood taken from terrified kids and pedophilia. The horrors that we are seeing get exposed are beyond anything that anyone could believe. The truth is far beyond what any conspiracy theorists could have come up with. This involves presidents, royalty, even clergy in the Catholic church.

5 Suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall, near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched the hand as it wrote. 6 His face turned pale and he was so frightened that his legs became weak and his knees were knocking.


This is some scary stuff. Imagine fires so bad that people have to evacuate the state of California. Imagine the smoke is so bad half the country is choking. Imagine a horrific famine that results from the floods, rats, and locusts in China. Imagine a plague of scorpions. Imagine a pandemic that continues to grow and spread around the world. Imagine the US economy tanking and the US dollar suffering massive inflation. That is a scary thought. You might say “the writing is on the wall”, but what does it all mean?

Now imagine that during all of these events the world leaders are partying and carousing because they were able to steal an election and now are printing money like a counterfeiter trying to stock up for the winter. They are blasphemous towards God and His vessels of mercy. Then what happens, we see a hand, not a person but just the hand posting up on the wall, or in this case, the internet, that Bill Clinton was found guilty in a tribunal, Hillary Clinton has been found guilty, Nancy Pelosi has been found guilty, Bill Barr, 32 Governors, John Podesta, and the list goes on and on. Over 700 people in the US and Europe have been arrested. Flights to Gitmo have increased 900%. Now that is some terrifying stuff. Why did Bezos step down? Where is Tom Hanks? Where are all these people accused of treason and pedophilia? Why have 19 congressmen announced their retirement. This is being posted on the internet but there is no response, they have turned pale, their legs are weak, their knees are knocking. The Laptop from Hell is a runaway best seller and Biden is silent! How do you ignore the accusations?

These arrogant, blasphemous people had built guillotines on which to kill their enemies similar to what Haman did in the book of Esther and apparently they are being sentenced to death on these same guillotines. Donald Trump recently mocked them saying Pelosi was wearing a mask to cover her entire face. All Pelosi has to do is come forward, take her mask off and point out how ridiculous this is, unless of course she can't. My wife and I heard Biden talking yesterday and it did not sound anything like him! We have seen them do green screen with Biden, CGI with Biden, what is going on?
 

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2018 Beginning of the "ten days of Awe"?

The Prophecies of Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel (1140 – 1217)

“When the Ottoman (Turks) conquer Jerusalem (which they did in 1517, 300 years after his prophecy), they will rule over Jerusalem for eight jubilees (400 year s [Jubilee years are celebrated every 50 years], and they did exactly that, ruling Jerusalem through 1917). Afterwards, Jerusalem will become a no-man’s land for one Jubilee, and then in the ninth Jubilee, it will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation (which is exactly what happened, even the strip of land dividing Israel’s West Jerusalem and Jordanian controlled East Jerusalem was referred to as “no man’s land,” until Jerusalem was taken by Israel during the Six Day War in 1967) – which would signify the beginning of the Messianic end time.”

The 9th jubilee would have concluded in 2017 and the tenth Jubilee begun in 2018.

Not only so but we had the great Revelation 12 sign on the Feast of Trumpets in 2017 as a sign warning of the ten days of Awe. It looks like the Revelation 12 sign may have been a one year warning and the ten days of Awe (ten years?) began at the Feast of Trumpets 2018?
 

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Daniel 5:7-23 They have set themselves up against the Lord

7 The king summoned the enchanters, astrologers and diviners. Then he said to these wise men of Babylon, “Whoever reads this writing and tells me what it means will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around his neck, and he will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.” 8 Then all the king’s wise men came in, but they could not read the writing or tell the king what it meant.

It is very interesting, in the last few years we have had this "intelligence drops" called Q drops. (Do not confuse Q with Qanon, they are two very different things). It seems the point of the Q drops is to terrorize the corrupt rulers just like this hand with the writing on the wall.

9 So King Belshazzar became even more terrified and his face grew more pale. His nobles were baffled. 10 The queen, hearing the voices of the king and his nobles, came into the banquet hall. “May the king live forever!” she said. “Don’t be alarmed! Don’t look so pale! 11 There is a man in your kingdom who has the spirit of the holy gods in him. In the time of your father he was found to have insight and intelligence and wisdom like that of the gods. Your father, King Nebuchadnezzar, appointed him chief of the magicians, enchanters, astrologers and diviners. 12 He did this because Daniel, whom the king called Belteshazzar, was found to have a keen mind and knowledge and understanding, and also the ability to interpret dreams, explain riddles and solve difficult problems. Call for Daniel, and he will tell you what the writing means.” 13 So Daniel was brought before the king, and the king said to him, “Are you Daniel, one of the exiles my father the king brought from Judah? 14 I have heard that the spirit of the gods is in you and that you have insight, intelligence and outstanding wisdom. 15 The wise men and enchanters were brought before me to read this writing and tell me what it means, but they could not explain it. 16 Now I have heard that you are able to give interpretations and to solve difficult problems. If you can read this writing and tell me what it means, you will be clothed in purple and have a gold chain placed around your neck, and you will be made the third highest ruler in the kingdom.” 17 Then Daniel answered the king, “You may keep your gifts for yourself and give your rewards to someone else. Nevertheless, I will read the writing for the king and tell him what it means. 18 “Your Majesty, the Most High God gave your father Nebuchadnezzar sovereignty and greatness and glory and splendor. 19 Because of the high position he gave him, all the nations and peoples of every language dreaded and feared him. Those the king wanted to put to death, he put to death; those he wanted to spare, he spared; those he wanted to promote, he promoted; and those he wanted to humble, he humbled. 20 But when his heart became arrogant and hardened with pride, he was deposed from his royal throne and stripped of his glory. 21 He was driven away from people and given the mind of an animal; he lived with the wild donkeys and ate grass like the ox; and his body was drenched with the dew of heaven, until he acknowledged that the Most High God is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and sets over them anyone he wishes.

The US used to be a great superpower, they had glory and splendor. All the other nations respected and feared us. But we have become arrogant. It is incredible how we have forgotten our history, not ancient history, but even the history of our fathers. How can Germany return to a fascist rules with this vaccine after just one generation? How can Austria, Greece, Australia and Canada do this?

22 “But you, Belshazzar, his son, have not humble yourself, though you knew all this. 23 Instead, you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven.


This is true. Listen to Ron Reagan do commercials for atheists saying he isn’t afraid of burning in hell. He is probably the only one in California who isn’t. The abortion issue is clearly a case of setting your kingdom up against the Lord of heaven. In China they passed laws that clearly set themselves up against the Lord of heaven. After the pandemic if a church wanted to reopen they needed to hang the picture of the leader of China in the Sanctuary, they needed to sing the national anthem and they changed Bible verses to praise the CCP. In Belarus it is the only dictator left. Protests in Belarus, Hong Kong, Beirut, Portland all point to the fact that they have set themselves up against the Lord of heaven.

You had the goblets from his temple brought to you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines drank wine from them. You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand.


Money and the stock market are the gods of silver and gold. War and military might are the gods of bronze and iron. The monuments built by man are the gods of wood and stone. The house of congress is called "the temple of democracy" but has become the temple of Baal worshipping idols.

But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways.


One thing is undeniable, these rulers are not honoring God. I watched an interview with Kamala Harris where they asked her if she smoked pot. She laughed, her father and half her family are from Jamaica, of course she smoked pot. The next day her father is interviewed, a very dignified professor, and he was disgusted with what she said, saying she was perpetrating ugly stereotypes. He totally repudiated any suggestion that what she said was true. Think how incredible this is. Her father publicly rebukes her even though it might hurt her chances of being elected. Think of the hypocrisy, what is the entire Black Lives Matter movement about if it isn’t claiming that Blacks need to be treated with dignity and respect. She claims she is for BLM yet she is pushing insulting stereotypes of blacks as potheads rather than dignified professionals. What about Nancy Pelosi, railing about Trump not wearing a mask, not mandating a shutdown, and then she is seen not wearing a mask in the hair dresser. She violated the law, and in California a state that has the worst case of the pandemic in the US. She then claimed she was tricked and didn’t know the law, this is the third most powerful person in the US and represents the people of San Francisco and she doesn’t know the law? Then she destroyed the hairdresser saying she was set up and caused her to be swamped with threats so that she had to close and move her business. Bill Clinton went to pedophile island that belonged to Epstein, and then when Epstein is in jail he mysteriously dies, not the first mysterious death to help Clinton.

Daniel hasn't even looked at the writing on the wall yet and still he knows what is going down. He knows the history, he knows their sins, he knows the God who executes judgement. He knows the God who is not mocked, who says you reap what you sow. These evil rulers are sadists, they like to inflict pain, they like to inflict mental anguish on people. Well this story shows how God is doing that to them. This king is about to die, it could have been done secretly and quickly, but that would not be just. They liked to terrorize their victims first so in the same way they are reaping what they sowed. They liked Satanic rituals to terrorize kids well in the same way God is terrorizing them. Daniel knows all this and it is critical to understand this piece of the puzzle to understand that writing on the wall.
 

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Wow, according to this prophecy the official end of the cold war in 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed was when they said "peace and security". That was 30 years ago as of 7:32 pm on December 25th in Moscow, 11:32 am NYC time.

 

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According to David Wilkerson the beginning of sorrows, the beginning of birth pains will be when the oil fields of the middle east are set on fire, and then there will be a bomb that hits NYC (9/11).
 

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I specifically use "rapture" in the title because it is controversial, however, in several of my posts I make it very clear that my understanding of this term is "the redemption of our body". In other posts I include the "harpazo" -- snatching away. We are now at Post #2,890 so I won't go into all the various ways in which I view this including Day of the Lord, etc. But suffice it to say the vast majority of these posts provide numerous verse references, the few that don't are links to events taking place right now that we were told to watch for as signs of the Lord's coming.
Are you saved? if yes. what have you believed to be saved?
 

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Are you saved? if yes. what have you believed to be saved?
I have believed in Jesus Christ, Lord of all, as my savior. I believe that His death has redeemed me.
 

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Warnings of Sudden Destruction

In 1991 we had the collapse of the Soviet Union, that was when people said "peace and security" (See Henry Gruver's vision). Another prophet had seen a vision that when the torch is taken out of Lady Liberty's hands it would be 3 years for this to happen, which is what happened three years prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Statue of Liberty was shut down for repairs and renovations. Then David Wilkerson had a dream of Russia attacking the US and asked when will this be. He was told when you see the oil fields in the middle east set on fire and the bomb hit NYC. We saw Saddam Hussein burn the oil fields and then in 2001 we had 9/11. Interestingly all the architects and engineers know the twin towers were not brought down by a fire but rather by a controlled explosion. In that dream he was told this was the beginning of birth pains. 2008 with the mortgage meltdown was a worldwide birth pain. Then in 2020 the labor began in earnest with the worldwide pandemic and shutdown. This baby is coming out and will not be denied, the Stop the Steal rallies have led to election audits and criminal charges, Ghislaine Maxwell trial has all the elites on trial, the Durham investigation has the deep state on trial. Abortion is back at the Supreme court. This baby who is to rule the world with an iron rod is coming out and will not be denied.

The Soviet Union's collapse took place on December 25th, this December 25th it will be 30 years since we got that warning. 9/11 was 20 years ago. Two years ago on 9/11 the US ambassador met with the Taliban to discuss our exit and this year Biden said that 9/11 would be the deadline for our exit. The US has been warned repeatedly to repent or else they will be judged and that the judgement will be sudden destruction.

There have been numerous dreams and visions of this sudden destruction.
 

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I have believed in Jesus Christ, Lord of all, as my savior. I believe that His death has redeemed me.
That is not the gospel Paul received from Christ. You say you believe in Jesus Christ, yet you disobey Him.
 

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That is not the gospel Paul received from Christ. You say you believe in Jesus Christ, yet you disobey Him.
What is not the gospel and what are you referring to as "disobeying Him"?
 

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Joy to the world, the Lord is come!
Let Earth receive her king
Let every heart prepare Him room
And heaven and nature sing

Joy to the world the savior reigns!
Let men their songs employ!
While fields and floods
Rocks, hills and plains
Repeat the sounding joy!

No more let sin and sorrows grow
nor thorns infest the ground
He comes to make
His blessings flow.
Far as the curse is found.

He rules the world with truth and grace
and makes the nations prove the
glories of His righteousness
and wonders of His love.