Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Evidence concerning 2021

1. Matthew 23 — Jesus tells them that in this generation the temple will be made desolate and not one stone left on another. This happens in AD 70. Many of these prophecies concerning “this generation” all take place 70 years after. Matt 23:36. So this is evidence that when Jesus says "this generation shall see this" it is a 70 year prophecy (the word actually means "from my nativity").

2. Psalm 90:10 — 70-80 year prophecy. This word tells us that generation refers to a 70 or 80 year period depending on whether you are submissive or rebellious.

3. 5708 = 1948 in Deut 30:5 1967-2021-2028 = Psalms 121-128
In Psalm 48 it says when you see this go and tell it "to the last generation". Connect this Psalm prophesying concerning 1948 with Jesus word about "this generation" and it confirms that this generation in the Fig tree prophecies began in 1948. Generation is usually 70 but because of your arrogance and pride it is going to be 80. This tells us 2028. But please note we are using the Hebrew years, so 2028 will be 2029 on our calendar. Check out 1967 and the six day war in Psalm 67 -- says don't worry there is going to be a war but I am going to fight for you and the same lands that Og and king of Amorites had I am going to give that back to you (which is exactly what happened in 1967 -- West Bank, Gaza, etc). So obviously these Psalms are giving you yearly prophecies so then what about 2020 -- deliver me from the liars. What about 2021 -- They are a nation without sense -- if only they were wise and were able to discern that this is their latter end. (Remember these prophecies were made long before anyone used the Gregorian calendar).
 

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Evidence concerning 2021 cont.

Taken from the video linked in post 3760

4. 120 year judgement as in the days of Noah Psalm 120. 121 will happen





120 means pillars or congregation. It also means to leave but not by walking. Judgement comes after the pillars are pushed aside by Samson, the judgement comes after the church is removed from the earth. There is a wedding that happens before Passover — now you understand why Jesus said “My time has not yet come” — the wedding takes place before the Day of the Lord. Lazarus was raised before Passover.





5. Psalms 121 has the only Lemed infinitive verb the Sheppard’s staff





6. Psalm 121 gematria is 2220 the fullness of the Voice of God 222 Exod 19





7. The wedding in John 2 is before the Passover





8. The calling of Lazarus / Eleazar out of the place of misery and dry figs happens before passover





9. Joshua take the Israelites over the Jordan before the Passover — 120th year is when Moses died — that is 2020 — so Joshua crosses the Jordan after 2020. Once again after the 120th year. The law can’t take someone over to the promised land. How are we going? Jesus is taking us over.





10. Prophecy of Psalms 117 Koph / lamed Psalms 119:88-89
 

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There are two different views on this rapture so let's compare the two.

Pastor Sandy has tremendous Biblical evidence that it must take place in 2021 which comes to an end April 1/2.

Dr. Barry Awe is all in (as much as possible for him) with Passover.

If it takes place in March then we are talking about Purim, Esther, a hidden concealed book filled with prophecies concerning 1946 and the church being a blessing to the whole earth as well as Satan figured in Haman getting judged.

Yet the biblical picture in Passover is just as clear except for a couple of things.

First -- you are eating the lamb to strengthen you for your journey. You had to pick a lamb that was without blemish. I can see this referring to those who are left behind picking a ministry that was without blemish and "eating that" to strengthen them for the journey (tribulation). In Esther it is the overcomers who bring down Haman, in Passover it is the lamb that strengthens you for the journey.

Second -- Passover is about leaving slavery, the slavery to Pharaoh a type of Satan and sin. That is not overcomers, that is new believers. Esther is about overcoming Satan and sin to rule and reign with Christ. Esther is the victorious conclusion to the year.

Third -- It was a mixed multitude that left Egypt. No way does that depict the rapture. The rapture is not of a "mixed multitude".

Now consider the things that took place before Passover -- Crossing the Jordan, that event had to strengthen the faith of those who are now about to kick Satan out of the good land. Lazarus is raised from the grave. Again a picture of how the resurrected one is the lamb that the believers feed on to strengthen them for the Christian life. The wedding of Cana where the water was turned to wine. Right now all over the world we have filled the jars with death water. It is overflowing. If we have a rapture that will all of a sudden turn all that death water to wine. All the believers will instantly know that this is the end of the age, Jesus is Coming, Get ready.
 

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Conclusions p.1

Luke 12: 39 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what hour the thief was coming, he would have watched, and not have left his house to be broken through. 40 Be ye also ready: for in an hour that ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13:28 But learn the parable from the fig-tree: when its branch already becomes tender and puts forth the leaves, ye know that the summer is near. 29 Thus also *ye*, when ye see these things happening, know that it is near, at the doors. 30 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall in no wise pass away, till all these things take place. 31 The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall in no wise pass away. 32 But of that day or of that hour no one knows, neither the angels who are in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

Matthew 24:32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh; 33 even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that [n]he is nigh, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, [o]neither the Son, but the Father only.

1. I think we can make sense out of this timeline for the tribulation and the pre-tribulation rapture. First think I would point out is that the verse which says "no one knows the day or the hour" is not in Luke, it is only in Mark and Matthew. I subscribe to the theory that Luke is written specifically to those who are in the pre-tribulation rapture. Mark is for those who are raptured out of the tribulation and Matthew is for the rapture of the nation of Israel.

2. I also believe that this expression "no one knows the day or the hour" refers to the new heaven and new earth. However, it does not refer to the pre-tribulation rapture. For the gospel of Mark and Matthew it refers to the new heaven and new earth.

So based on this I believe the Tribulation, the seven years, starts on the Feast of Trumpets. The Pre-Tribulation rapture takes place prior to this "at an hour that you think not" only for those who are not watching. This is not the feast of trumpets. Instead, at night a thief is coming and you should be watching. Not everyone is a night watchman but for those that are they should be on duty and should see that this thief is coming.

But, the Feast of Trumpets announces the coming of the king. Surely that would be an alert for all of God's people regardless of when they are raptured. Sure enough, there are ten days after the Feast of Trumpets before you have Atonement. I believe this refers to the last ten years, the great tribulation is simply the last seven. The Feast of Trumpets that begins this ten year period took place on September 23, 2017 at the time of the Revelation 12 sign. This kicked off this final 10 years. There is overwhelming evidence to support this assertion.

So then, when is the rapture? It is at an hour that the majority of Christians "think not". However there are some signs. Jeremiah (I believe this prophet directs his prophecy to those who are left behind after the rapture) says "the summer is past and we are not saved". I think this sentiment is expressed by those who are left behind. The summer is past the day after the Equinox. The equinox is September 22, 2022. September 25th, 2022 should be the Feast of Trumpets. That would be the time to blow the trumpet announcing the beginning of the 70th week.

There is another clue,

Luke 21:28 But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads; because your redemption draweth nigh.


This clue is in Luke which is written to those who are raptured before the tribulation. If we look up we will see that something very strange is happening in the heavens. There is a planet that has a very odd orbit and is going to cross our orbit. There is a long string of debris (asteroids) following this planet and the Earth will pass through this "tail". The Earth will be bombarded with a meteor shower which will be horrific, particularly for the US. The US is the Great Babylon and this is the judgement that is prophesied that it will come in one hour, that she will be burned with fire, stripped naked and devoured by the beast (UN). All the merchants of the world will mourn saying "who will buy our stuff". The US is the biggest consumer in the world. With the US as a superpower gone both Israel and Taiwan will feel they are now naked to attack. At this time the 3 Gorges dam will collapse flooding the Yangtze river basin, an area where 500 million people live and the industrial heartland of China. With this destroyed China will give their backing to the UN but will be unable to project their power on the global stage. At this time Russia and North Korea will destroy the US nuclear missile silos with ballistic missiles. After the USSR collapsed our biggest fear was that the nukes would fall into the hands of the terrorists, well Russia and the UN will have the same fear of the US once our economy collapses. This will leave Russia allied with the Islamic nations as the "superpower" and to solidify that status they will attack Israel as prophesied in Ezekiel 38. God will destroy their army. That will leave Europe as the one and only superpower with the Antichrist as the recognized leader. The antichrist will now be free to make a peace treaty with Israel based on their victory over Russia and the Islamic alliance and that will be the beginning of the great tribulation.
 

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Look up, your redemption draweth nigh

 

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Do you want to hear that the Day of the Lord has arrived?

I was thinking wouldn't it have been great if someone back in 2017 at the time of the Revelation 12 sign had all the information we have now? The whole world paying attention and focusing in on this next week? Prophesying concerning stolen elections, Jan 6th event, Trump returning, Afghan debacle on 9th of AV, Russian invasion in Feb 2022, runaway inflation in March 2022, etc. If they had done that they would have everyone's attention.

But in reality what would have really happened? Oh, the rapture is not for four years, no sweat, not for 3 years OK talk to me when it is nearer, not for 2 years, got it, not for one year, etc. It would not have helped at all for those who are not interested. Meanwhile there would have been a ton of false prophets all over the internet so they would have been saying everyone is saying something who to believe? Or even a stopped clock is right two times a day, etc. The problem is not the prophetic word, nor is it the imperfect exegesis and exposition of that word. The problem is that most people don't want to hear that word.

For those of us who have stumbled around in the dark working on this jigsaw puzzle and putting the pieces together the process is just as much enjoyment as arriving at the end. It was doubly fun because we felt the pressure of the clock. We wanted to unravel the mystery before the Lord's return because there is a promise that some would not be caught by surprise. We wanted to be one of those who He finds filled with faith, watching for His return and not caught sleeping.
 

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More signs pointing to March 18, 2022

 

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Tribulation

I have heard some teach that tribulation is not for believers. The greek word is based on the word for a tool for reaping the harvest. So if you liken the believers to wheat obviously tribulation is for the believers. Yes, it is also for unbelievers if you liken them to tares.

Matt 13:21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.

Clearly Jesus uses the term tribulation to describe a plant going through a dry spell.

Matt 24:9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.

This is a reference to the apostles and what they went through. Jesus describes the sufferings that apostles go through as tribulations.

Matthew 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The great tribulation is not for believers. The record in Revelation equates this time for the pouring out of God's wrath and the New Testament says believers are not appointed to wrath.

Interestingly Mark and Luke seem to have the same use of the word tribulation but it is not in Luke.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

Here we see the contrast between living in the world and being in Christ. Yes, we are in the world and in the world we will have tribulation, but if we get into Christ we will have peace because He has overcome the world.

Acts 14:22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and saying, “We must through many tribulations enter the kingdom of God.”

Totally wrong to say that Tribulation is not for believers, on the contrary it is a requirement. You can say well the tribulation here is different from that in Revelation. That is one interpretation, but don't think it has any merit. Rather I would say that there are believers who willingly take up their cross, follow the Lord and share in the fellowship of His sufferings. These do not need to go through the tribulation because they have willingly chosen a path where they must go through many tribulations. There are other believers who choose a path to avoid all tribulation, these ones will be left behind and now will not be able to plot a course without tribulation. At this point if you choose to avoid tribulation and take the mark of the beast you forfeit your salvation.

Romans 5:3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance;

No pain no gain, there is no shame in tribulations.

2Corinthians 1:4 who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Tribulation is where we get our ministry from. God comforts us in our tribulation and then we are able to comfort others with the same comfort with which we were comforted.

Ephesians 3:13 Therefore I ask that you do not lose heart at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

Paul went through tribulations for us, that is our glory! Why? Because we are on the same team, we are the same body, we are all one. If we are all one and one member is glorified the whole body is glorified. "You have beautiful hair" that is a compliment to the whole person. "Your church has a powerful word" that is a glory to the whole church.

2Thessalonians 1:4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure,

It is not just individually that we go through tribulation, we go through it corporately as a body.

Hebrews 10:33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated;

My uncle worked as a layman with a charity for poor people in Jackson Ms. and they tried to raise money for black churches that had been bombed. In this way he became a companion of those who were so treated. Because of this the KKK bombed his house making him a spectacle of both reproaches and tribulations. This is the point, you can willingly choose to walk this road, or you will be forced to walk this road during the tribulation.

Revelation 1:9 I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

That's right, the apostle John is our companion in tribulation.

I believe there is a pre-tribulation rapture, that does not mean I teach that tribulation is not for believers.
 

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Revelation 12 and Purim

Revelation 12:1 And a great sign was seen in heaven: a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she crieth out, travailing in birth, and in pain to be delivered.

Revelation 12 sign, appeared in 2017

3 And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads seven diadems. 4 And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child.

This could be what this war in Ukraine is about. Fauci being exposed is like the stars being cast to the earth. Russia getting info on these crooks is like the stars being cast to the earth. Everyone is confused about what is going on and why is Satan fighting against Satan? Well here we see that the tail of Satan casts the stars, those allied with Satan at his fall, to the Earth. He knows the rapture is imminent, he wants to devour the child but is unable, but even if that fails he knows the war will be on earth.

5 And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne.

Pre-tribulation rapture

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Refugees fleeing war?

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels; 8 and they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Satan kicked out of heaven. This reminds me of Haman being replaced with Esther and Mordecai. That is what the Feast of Purim is all about, kicking Haman out of heaven.

9 Now in the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same, when the king’s commandment and his decree drew near to be put in execution, on the day that the enemies of the Jews hoped to have rule over them (whereas it was turned to the contrary, that the Jews had rule over them that hated them), 2 the Jews gathered themselves together in their cities throughout all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus, to lay hand on such as sought their hurt: and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them was fallen upon all the peoples. 3 And all the princes of the provinces, and the satraps, and the governors, and they that did the king’s business, helped the Jews; because the fear of Mordecai was fallen upon them.

13th of Adar is when this war takes place. I think the evening of Mar 2 would be the first of Adar, that would make the evening of the 14th of March the 13th of Adar. So then this war probably begins Sunday night/Monday morning. Sunday night in the US is Monday in the Ukraine/Jerusalem.

4 For Mordecai was great in the king’s house, and his fame went forth throughout all the provinces; for the man Mordecai waxed greater and greater. 5 And the Jews smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and with slaughter and destruction, and did what they would unto them that hated them. 6 And in Shushan the palace the Jews slew and destroyed five hundred men. 7 And Parshandatha, and Dalphon, and Aspatha, 8 and Poratha, and Adalia, and Aridatha, 9 and Parmashta, and Arisai, and Aridai, and Vaizatha, 10 the ten sons of Haman the son of Hammedatha, the Jews’ enemy, slew they; but on the spoil they laid not their hand.

This sounds like the battle in heaven after the manchild is raptured.

11 On that day the number of those that were slain in Shushan the palace was brought before the king. 12 And the king said unto Esther the queen, The Jews have slain and destroyed five hundred men in Shushan the palace, and the ten sons of Haman; what then have they done in the rest of the king’s provinces! Now what is thy petition? and it shall be granted thee: or what is thy request further? and it shall be done. 13 Then said Esther, If it please the king, let it be granted to the Jews that are in Shushan to do to-morrow also according unto this day’s decree, and let Haman’s ten sons be hanged upon the gallows. 14 And the king commanded it so to be done: and a decree was given out in Shushan; and they hanged Haman’s ten sons. 15 And the Jews that were in Shushan gathered themselves together on the fourteenth day also of the month Adar, and slew three hundred men in Shushan; but on the spoil they laid not their hand. 16 And the other Jews that were in the king’s provinces gathered themselves together, and stood for their lives, and had rest from their enemies, and slew of them that hated them seventy and five thousand; but on the spoil they laid not their hand.


There are a lot of prophetic ramifications of Esther's word to do tomorrow as you have done today, but suppose this also refers to the day of the Lord? Suppose the day of the Lord starts with Satan and his henchman being kicked out of office and suffering a defeat and the prayer is that what happens now also happen tomorrow during the day of the Lord?
 

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1Jn 2:1-13 -- They are trying to lead you astray

1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

I think that there are many Christians who have been duped. But even if that is true, when we realize we have been duped we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus made His sacrifice for our sins, simply confess and repent. I am constantly reminded of a time when I was fully duped. We were at Boy Scout camp during the summer. Someone went into the tent of the Scoutmaster and dumped his bed off the side of a small bluff. The scoutmaster was sure it was a member of my patrol so I was involved as an advocate for him. He fully convinced me he was innocent and so I was very strong to defend him. Finally, the scoutmaster promised amnesty, no penalty, just wanted to know the truth. Instantly this kid confessed it was him, I had been duped, and I felt like an idiot.

3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.

So then how do we discern a liar? In the case of a Christian you can claim to know Jesus, but it isn’t based on what you say, but what you do. We have seen all kinds of people claim to be “prophets of God” and “great evangelists”, etc. But when we see they don’t keep the commandments of the Lord we know they are a liar. The same is true of any liar, the thing to focus on is what they do, not what they claim. How many times have politicians promised to do something in a campaign but then did nothing when they were elected. The Lord said you would know them by their fruits, by what they do, what they produce. Not by what they promise to produce.

7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and in you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining. 9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

That is the key point. If you are filled with hate you are in darkness. On Nov 5th, we were still sorting out the Presidential election held on Nov. 3, I got this text from a person who will remain anonymous “(Don’t let the door hit your fat a** on the way out, you repulsive orange turd of a human slab of garbage.) Oh and take your ugly family of F**tards with u, vile filth” [I have modified some of the language with the * so that this post is not flagged]. We may not know who, or what or how we got deceived, but if you are filled with hate like this, know that you are in darkness.

12 I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.


I have seen that it is particularly young people who spend a lot of time on Twitter, Tik Tok, and Facebook who are the most extreme in their expression of hate. So know this, your sins have been forgiven, plead the Lord’s blood, confess and repent and you will receive this forgiveness.

13 I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.


I have noticed that the older people, even those with very strong political beliefs one way or the other are much more cautious about this kind of hate speech. Perhaps it is our experience of being duped in the past that has made us more prudent. Again, referring to this example of the election I know that neither of these candidates is without sin and I also know that tomorrow I could learn something totally horrifying about either one. I have come to learn there is only one Savior, Jesus Christ, and His ways are not my ways. When you purify gold or silver you melt it with extreme heat, and then the impurities which are light and less dense float to the top, to twitter, where they can be skimmed off. The end of the age is an extreme case of this process where God has to sort out the faithful believers from the seeds that the evil one planted.

I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one.


At this time there is clearly a warfare going on. We all hopefully want the results to be valid. We don’t want China or Russia to come in and steal the election so that some person who has been compromised by them is running our country. A person like that might hand Afghanistan over to our enemies, might even equip them with our weapons and hand out kill lists of Americans. A person compromised by a foreign country might renegotiate treaties with Iran so that they could build nuclear weapons, or they might cripple the US oil industry so that Russia could sell more oil. We want the truth, we want to walk in the light, we want to have love for our fellow brothers and sisters. Light overcomes darkness, love overcomes hate, truth overcomes lies. Overcome depression with the word of hope. This is the time for young men of faith to stand strong.
 

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1Jn 2:14-29 All of you know the truth

14 I write to you, dear children, because you know the Father.


I understand the hateful reaction the young children are showing in the streets and on social media. They know a God of love and what is being portrayed is not Him. I would encourage you to stand for righteousness and justice by imitating the God of love and light that you know.

I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.


For those of us who are older we need to draw on our experiences. Not just to keep ourselves from being deceived, but also to help those who are being deceived. I have had experiences with false prophets and the foundation that they stand on is a “fabricated story” that is designed to “make merchandise of you”. This is the “origin story”, the “I pulled myself up from my bootstraps” story. Examine that, find out if it is fabricated and focus on how that is designed to make merchandise of people. Several of the BLM founders are buying million dollar homes with the money given to the foundation, it is clearly set up to make merchandise of people.

I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.


That said, I think there are some very wonderful people online who are strong. Bannon is a good example of one. I am very encouraged when I see these ones standing strong and overcoming the evil one. I know many are very disturbed by the events happening right now wishing we could go back to a time when everything was peaceful. I view this as the end of the championship game between light and dark, you have those who are strong and the word of God lives in them standing strong, and you have the false prophets fighting for all they are worth knowing that it is do or die for them. This is much more exciting and worthwhile than the NBA or NFL.

15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God Lives forever.


Everything in the world passes away. From the viewpoint of eternity 100 years is a blink of the eye. It is a wisp of smoke, it is a vanity. No one will remember or care who won what Super Bowl, but the battle we are now in, that does matter. They will care about this for eternity.

18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come.This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.


There are many antichrists, not just one, not just “the antichrist”. Notice how in every case “they went out from us”. The antichrist is not an outsider, they are someone who was in the group but then stepped outside the boundaries of that group. So for example, a cult leader will deny Jesus who redeemed us. This can be done very subtly. I am a Christian because I know Jesus, but they will add another requirement. That added requirement denies the Lord who redeemed me and in so doing denies Jesus. In the example above of politicians, they will step outside the bounds of the constitution and deny that. For example in this recent election much was made of Trump nominating Amy Coney Barrett, and then the Senate confirming her. However, none of those actions were outside of the constitution, nor when you carefully scrutinize the evidence were they outside the boundaries of precedent. On the flip side they said that they would get power in this election and “pack the court”. That means instead of 9 Supreme court justices they would nominate 11 or 13. That is clearly a violation of precedent and although it doesn’t violate the letter of the constitution it certainly violates the spirit of it. The Spirit of the constitution is that the Supreme court would not be dragged down by political allegiance, but the idea of packing the court would do that and would also make the court a farce as each new administration would follow suit until you had twenty or thirty justices.

20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.


We need to be careful, many think that crafting a lie is a quick and easy way to get what they want, the old “the end justifies the means”. They are convinced that their way is right, so the fact that they lie about it is no big deal because they are doing it for the greater good. We saw this with Kamala Harris during her debate. She pointed out that a very similar event to RBG’s death occurred right before Lincoln’s reelection. However, Lincoln, the founder of the Republican Party, did not nominate someone in that last month. She interpreted this as a precedent that you should not nominate someone before an election. The problem is that in the 1800s there were no cars or airplanes or telephones. The Senate had already adjourned and gone back to their home states. It would not have been possible to confirm anyone in the time left. So instead Lincoln said “this is the person I will nominate if I am reelected” and that motivated many senators to campaign all the harder for his reelection. So remember, no lie comes from the truth. It will blow up in your face.

22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.


Neither Biden or Trump will save us. Neither one is the savior, neither one is holy and true, neither one is the incarnated word of God. The spirit of Antichrist is rebellion against Jesus being Lord. To deny the authority of Jesus or the authority of the Bible is the spirit of antichrist.

24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.

The battle is to knock us out of the Son. Do not let anything knock you out of being “in Christ”. Make sure that the word you have heard from the beginning remains in you and that you remain in Christ. Our goal is eternal life, not something ephemeral of the world.

26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

You need to realize that they are trying to lead you astray. No one in this country should be naive anymore, we have heard for four years that Russia and China have been using social media to lead us astray. We watched as the CEOs of the cigarette companies tried to lead this country astray. We saw that the NFL tried to lead this country astray concerning CTE. We saw Tik Tok used as a tool of China to disrupt this election. We have seen Twitter and Facebook censor news to affect the election. We have seen that the polls were not used to reflect voter sentiment but rather to affect it. They are trying to lead you astray, but you have an anointing. Can you hear the Lord’s speaking, that is the real question.

28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.


At the Lord’s coming we want to see all the Lord’s people standing strong. They are standing in truth, in light, and in love. The Lord said that He would come at an hour that you did not expect if you were not watching. In that case you would be ashamed at His coming.

29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.


Do the right thing. Speak truth in love.
 

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This dream was from September 2020. It has obviously not been realized but it seems we are much closer to seeing it realized now than ever before. One can certainly say that if we stay on the same course this is where we will be next december.

 

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The Chernobyl disaster in 1986 followed by dissolution of USSR in 1988-1991 is the bear appearing dead on the forest floor.

Chechen wars in 1994 were the bear beginning to paw the ground.

In 2014 Russia annexed Crimea, this is the paw hitting the ground and the earth shuddering.

In 2022 Russia began to devastate all that stood in its path when it invaded Ukraine.

The men trying to defend with sticks — is this NATO or Ukraine? Either way they are crushed under foot and the bear continues to rampage. Ukraine will definitely be crushed under foot, and the continue to rampage is not clear (does the Bear go West or South)?

Suddenly it will grow strong once more with purpose and violence — this is what we are seeing today with the UN, if Russia has evidence to condemn the US in the security council then you will see Russia suddenly to have grown strong with purpose and violence.

Clearly the Biden administration has been the ones who continue to trample on the sacrifice of Christ’s blood. This attack on Ukraine has caught them unprepared. That is the point of them seizing all the information about the bioweapons labs. You can see that our “leaders” like Biden and Harris are blind.

The days are numbered, just see what Steve Fletcher has posted based on the numbers in Daniel. The sentence has been passed, again reminiscent of the writing on the wall that Daniel interpreted. Do not focus on “the danger” focus on being “in righteousness”, in Christ.
 

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Ezekiel 36:1-15 Prophecy for the Faithful

1 And thou, son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Mountains of Israel, hear the word of Jehovah.

The mountains of Israel, these are like those in Philadelphia who become the pillars in the house of God.

2 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha! and, The ancient high places are become ours in possession;

The enemy represents Satan and he is the accuser of the brethren.

3 therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because, yea, because they have made desolate, and have swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the remnant of the nations, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and in the defaming of the people:

Philadelphia represents those with little strength, not a lot of strength, who have not denied the Lord’s name and have kept His word. They are not talkers, they are not boasters, they are not slanderers. Rather they have been under the attack of Satan for years.

4 therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord Jehovah. Thus saith the Lord Jehovah to the mountains and to the hills, to the water-courses and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes and to the cities that are forsaken, which are become a prey and a derision to the remnant of the nations that are round about,


The Lord tells Philadelphia that “you will have to go no more out”. They have been excommunicated, they have been pilgrims, strangers in a strange land. They were deported, they lost all that they had, they were made desolate, forsaken and became a prey and a derision.

5 —therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the remnant of the nations, and against the whole of Edom, which have appointed my land unto themselves for a possession with the joy of all [their] heart, with despite of soul, to plunder it by pillage.


We belong to the Lord. We are His possession, His land. Satan and his host have illegally confiscated the Lord’s land. “They appointed it to themselves” despite it belonging to Jesus, reminds me of our present administration doing as they please with no regard to the law. They are the “lawless ones”. Watch the UN proceedings where Russia makes allegations of war crimes found in the bioweapons labs. The US and Europe refused to respond to the substance, apparently they plundered the bioweapons rather than destroy them as they promised.

6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say to the mountains and to the hills, to the water-courses and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the ignominy of the nations;

7 therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I have lifted up my hand, [saying,] Verily the nations that are about you, they shall bear their shame.


The saints are those who have taken up their cross and gone outside the camp, bearing the Lord’s shame. If that is your testimony then that is wonderful, and if it is not your testimony don’t worry, you will get another chance during the Great Tribulation to bear the Lord’s shame. However, know this, the Great Tribulation is righteous judgement, as they have done to the Lord’s people it will be done to them. This is a great promise of the Lord that they will not be able to hide this, they will not be able to cover up their crimes. Their shame will be upon their heads for all to see.

8 And ye mountains of Israel shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people Israel: for they are at hand to come.


We are going to see a wonderful revival. Right now we are seeing saints around the world speaking, sharing, testifying and witnessing for the Lord. At the moment the majority of those in Christianity are not receiving that testimony, often because someone they trust like a Priest, tells them not to. Once the rapture takes place they will realize who was speaking the truth and who wasn’t and then they will take that fruit. This rapture takes place when the Lord accomplishes His promise to make these nations bear their shame.

9 For behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown.


All believers should have been doing this already. Dealing with the stony heart, the thorns, and the birds. But if not the Tribulation will be a second chance to become tilled and sown.

10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, the whole of it; and the cities shall be inhabited, and the waste places shall be builded.

We are going to see a great revival in this country and worldwide during the tribulation.

11 And I will multiply upon you man and beast, and they shall increase and bring forth fruit; and I will cause you to be inhabited as your former times, yea, I will make it better than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I [am] Jehovah.

12 And I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of children.


To walk upon the land is to walk upon the incarnated word of God. This is the word of God that we can handle, we can taste, we can experience.

13 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because they say unto you, Thou devourest men, and hast bereaved thy nation,

14 therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nation any more, saith the Lord Jehovah;

15 neither will I cause thee to hear the ignominy of the nations any more, and thou shalt not bear the reproach of the peoples any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nation to fall any more, saith the Lord Jehovah.


This is referring to the word of God. Many complain about the laws and the judgements in the Bible. Basic principle, if you want to enjoy the outstanding resurrection of Jesus Christ you have to first enjoy the fellowship of His sufferings. If no death, no life. Unless a grain of wheat die and be buried it abides alone, but if it dies then it will bring forth much fruit.
 

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False prophet, false prophet, false prophet

Common refrain that all the watchmen hear. This is why I put this in a blog. No one can say "you didn't say that" it is in writing for all to see with a date stamp on it.

Second of all I don't say post things and then forget them. I posted a bunch of posts on another forum and then moved here because of the censorship. So all those posts were reposted (and perhaps polished and updated a little) and I haven't done that once, I am now doing it a second time. So I revisit my posts every 6 months.

For the most part I haven't had to correct anything. I use the term "most part" because of the misconception between "false prophet" and "biblical interpretation". I have shared one or two dreams and perhaps one speaking the Lord gave me. Those have not changed, not one jot or tittle. However we are all trying to figure our what is going on based on the Biblical prophecies that God has given us and this requires interpretation. Our interpretation has become much clearer and sharper in focus as we see the various signs and fulfillment.

One thing we have seen is that you can see death and resurrection in everything in the Bible and hence everything points to the promised hope we have in the Lord Jesus. That said after listening to all the other watchmen make a case for a variety of dates and after my own research I think there are two important feasts that point to the church. It seems to me that Hanukkah is very clearly talking about the tribulation time, the antichrist, and the mid term rapture. The other feast that seems to really refer to the pre-tribulation rapture, the hidden rapture, is Esther. We have the appointed feast days of Hanukkah and Purim, however, neither of these is in Leviticus. I concluded a while ago that the rapture of the church should not be in Leviticus. The torah is a covenant between God and the children of Abraham. Yes, Noah can refer to the church, Enoch can refer to the pre-tribulation rapture, and even Lot can refer to the mid tribulation rapture. But those feast days in Leviticus are given to the Jews, not to the gentiles.

Now if I were going to compare the two potential feasts pointing to the rapture of the church, Purim and Hanukkah, Purim obviously appears to take place before the tribulation, at the end of the age as the crowning achievement whereas Hanukkah is the "re dedication" of the temple by those who may have been luke warm but then go through the tribulation and take a stand.

This is not "prophecy" this is interpretation of Biblical typology. No one is saying "thus saith the Lord". No one is saying the Lord spoke to them directly on this. We could be wrong, but we are not wrong about the fact that the Day of the Lord is at the door, that the Lord is about to return, and that we need to make sure our vessels are filled with the Holy Spirit. The purpose of this sharing is to motivate everyone to love and good works.

Now I would add that there are many interpretations of the prophecies that will turn out to be false if the rapture does not take place prior to April 2nd. Even more interpretations will turn out to be false if the rapture does not take place prior to June 1st. Still more will prove to be false if the rapture does not take place prior to the Fall equinox. In fact, I would say if the rapture does not take place before October 1st you could say that the entire ministry of S4C Community Church will be disproved, pretty much the same for Dr. Barry Awe, and the lion share of the things I have posted on this blog.

However, if the rapture precedes April 2, 2022 everything that Pastor Sandy has shared will be vindicated, likewise with Dr. Barry Awe and also with this blog. I never had the slightest preference for one day over another or one year over another. I have landed on Purim 2022 from my reading of the scripture, of the signs in the heavens, of the dreams and visions that I consider very reliable, and from current events.

So then save this post and on October 1st you can throw it back in my face. On the other hand if the rapture takes place next week and Ezekiel 38 takes place this summer and the tribulation begins on September 25th (feast of trumpets) then this site will be vindicated, Dr. Barry Awe will be vindicated and Pastor Sandy will be vindicated. You were warned, we did our job, your blood is on your own head.
 

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One thing that really caught my ear -- he talked about how all the phony politicians are wearing a mask. That is how you celebrate Purim!! It is very clear that Purim is pointing to this day.
 

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I see the hospital as a depiction of the US and the church during the pandemic. It's a metaphor, we should look at the pandemic as a sign that the church is supposed to be a hospital and everyone in this country is contagious with a deadly transmittable disease.

But what stood out was the guy with the bag saying "day old bread". Yes, we have a physical famine coming, but this dream I think is emphasizing the spiritual. Too many in the church trying to live on "old bread". Singing hymns from 100 years ago, teaching the Bible with teachings that were dug out 100-200 years ago. Where is the up to date speaking? Where are those who are getting new revelation, new light from the word of God.

What Pastor Sandy is sharing -- I never heard any of that before, that is new light.

What Dr. Barry Awe is sharing -- I heard some of that before, but still he does a wonderful job of cooking up fresh bread.

The things that I write, they are not from any book, I read the word and what the Lord speaks to me is what I share. That is not old teaching, it is the word of God applied to today.

Then you have the sign that the elevator is not working, meaning there is no easy way to get to the higher floors. It is very clear to me that Pastor Sandy is working hard digging into the word, and that Dr. Barry Awe is working hard despite having a new grandchild (unofficial) to take care of. Also, look at my blog, almost 4,000 posts in about 1 year. We are working, we are taking the stairs. The same is true of these two pastors, they post everyday.