Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Amos 3 -- We are supposed to be the salt and the light

3 Hear this word, people of Israel, the word the Lord has spoken against you—against the whole family I brought up out of Egypt: 2 “You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” 3 Do two walk together unless they have agreed to do so? 4 Does a lion roar in the thicket when it has no prey? Does it growl in its den when it has caught nothing? 5 Does a bird swoop down to a trap on the ground when no bait is there? Does a trap spring up from the ground if it has not caught anything? 6 When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? 7 Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.


We have a duty and a responsibility. We know God’s words, we know His laws. We are supposed to be the light of the world and the salt that kills the germs. If God and His people are going to walk together they must be in agreement. If you are a servant of the Lord you should hear when the Lion seizes the prey. You should be aware when the trap has sprung. You need to sound the trumpet! The fool in his heart says there is no God, but we need to let them know that when disaster comes to a city the Lord has caused it. This plan has been revealed to His servants, so the servants have a responsibility and a duty to sound the alarm.

8 The lion has roared— who will not fear? The Sovereign Lord has spoken— who can but prophesy? 9 Proclaim to the fortresses of Ashdod and to the fortresses of Egypt: “Assemble yourselves on the mountains of Samaria; see the great unrest within her and the oppression among her people.” 10 “They do not know how to do right,” declares the Lord, “who store up in their fortresses what they have plundered and looted.” 11 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: “An enemy will overrun your land, pull down your strongholds and plunder your fortresses.” 12 This is what the Lord says: “As a shepherd rescues from the lion’s mouth only two leg bones or a piece of an ear, so will the Israelites living in Samaria be rescued, with only the head of a bed and a piece of fabric from a couch.”

The Lord has spoken that He will judge them for what they have done to the poor. They have plundered and looted the poor like an invading army, therefore an invading army will plunder and loot your strongholds. Joel describes this invading army as a “bug” and uses five or six different analogies. But consider what this virus will do to the banks and investment banks that sell mortgage backed securities. Shopping malls and theaters are done. Concerts and sports arenas are done. They will be bankrupt. Even if they are allowed to reopen they won’t be allowed to operate profitably. Also, all the small businesses in the malls will also go bankrupt, if they survive it will be through an online presence. And therefore the anchor businesses like Sears and Macy’s will also go under. Now the saying in the real estate business is this: if you owe $1 million to the bank you have a problem, if you owe $1billion to the bank they have a problem. The banks have a huge problem. The real estate bubble in China has already burst. The trap has been sprung, the lion has the prey in his mouth and is roaring. Sri Lanka is bankrupt, nine other countries will follow closely behind, and already we are seeing a run on the banks in China. Maybe a few scraps here and there will be rescued, that is it. This situation has forced everyone to use the internet and you can expect orders over the internet to companies like Amazon.com will increase greatly but these in turn will cause most of the stores with a retail presence to go out of business. With unemployment at Great Depression levels you can expect the housing market to also collapse. With interest rates spiking to control inflation we are seeing the housing market and car market take a very big hit. Car sales are seeing a 30% drop nationwide, it is hard to imagine that showrooms can keep much of a retail presence anywhere other than cyberspace. Now one thing you can be sure of is the banks will keep a smile on their face and pretend all is well with the hope of somehow selling what few scraps they have left.

13 “Hear this and testify against the descendants of Jacob,” declares the Lord, the Lord God Almighty. 14 “On the day I punish Israel for her sins, I will destroy the altars of Bethel; the horns of the altar will be cut off and fall to the ground. 15 I will tear down the winter house along with the summer house; the houses adorned with ivory will be destroyed and the mansions will be demolished,” declares the Lord.

This is talking about a “golden calf”, interestingly down by Wall Street they have a bronze bull indicating a bull market. The stock market has several sources of power, of course you have the major stock indexes like S&P 500, and you have the bond index, you have the commodities market, and you have currency markets. The stock market and bond market are down about 30% while commodities take off. These will all be cut off. We are seeing major inflation due to the unrestrained spending of the Biden administration. They are using the printing press to print money and that is robbery to all those who have US debt. The only protection for other countries is to buy into some digital currency and to dump the US dollar as a reserve currency. We have seen them do just that with BRICS, an alliance of major countries to ditch the US dollar. That will cut off the horns of the altar. You will see a collapse of the US economy. Not so much for the poor and blue collar as we will shift to a barter economy, but to the wealthy, their entire wealth will be gone in a flash.

They know this and they are desperate to get everyone vaccinated. This is the reason for the vaccine mandate. The vaccine opens the door for a "vaccine passport" which will be a digital device controlling everything including your bank account. They are terrified of a barter economy, that would cause the central bank to collapse and with it the wealth of all the elites. The vaccine passport is part of the plan to eliminate any "barter economy". They will have complete control over buying and selling.
 

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The trap has been set, the prey is in the Lion's mouth

 

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All you will be able to save is but a few scraps

 

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This is the month you are supposed to get your sight right and walk by faith. The head of the month is supposed to give direction to the rest of the month. So then let's look at what was happening on Tammuz 1

1. Cassidy Hutchinson testified concerning January 6th. We need to see this testimony correctly. I feel it was immediately debunked as being a transparent and obvious lie. That should tell us all we need to know about the Jan 6th hearings. They could have easily called people who were eyewitnesses to verify her testimony, several volunteered to do so, however, they would have debunked it, said so publicly, and so they were never called. There is no cross examination of witnesses in this hearing. So this is the first thing we need to see clearly on.

2. All of the various states are addressing abortion laws after the Supreme court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade. Abortion is a major issue that must be seen for what it is, human sacrifices for Moloch and Baal worship.

3. Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years for sex trafficking. This is the third thing we need to see. In other words the US house of Reps and Senate are a temple to Moloch and Baal, an integral part of their worship is abortion, and a major business they are involved in is human trafficking. God is telling us we need to see the Moloch and Baal worshippers for what they are.

4. Turkey drops objections to Sweden and Finland joining NATO. If you wonder why we are going to war with Russia, look no further than NATO expansion onto Russia's borders.

5. Election battles over Republicans, Democrats and RINOs. Election fraud is a central issue that is tearing the country apart.

6. Experts are urging the FDA to push a new vaccine on the public. The vaccine is a critical component in this Moloch and Baal worship. They are outnumbered 100:1 by the public, but if they can kill enough people by inducing Human Immune Deficiency they can swing the numbers in their favor. As Moloch and Baal go down in flames they will be like Scarface trying to take as many people with them as they can.

7. A Nazi prison guard who was 101 years was sentenced to 5 years in prison. So be warned, there are no statute of limitations on many of these crimes and justice will ultimately be done.

8. Political upheaval is not just in the US, Scotland leader proposes a fresh independence vote. We see Boris Johnson removed and the world awakens.

9. CDC expands push for monkeypox vaccine.

10. Serena Williams knocked out in first round at Wimbledon -- the mighty have fallen
 

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If the Lord tells you to do something and you don't do it, is it a sin?

Yes.

Did the Lord tell us to watch?

Yes.

So then, is it a sin if Christians are not watching?

Yes.
 

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"How far off do you think the mark of the beast is?"

I was asked this question. The following was my answer:

The Lord said that "this generation shall not pass away until all these things are fulfilled", the context of that statement was "the fig tree and all the trees putting forth their leaves so that you know summer is near". That is a reference to Israel and a number of other countries that were formed after WWI and WWII. There are at least ten different biblical reasons to conclude that a generation is 80 years. Also, based on the context of what he was saying "all these things being fulfilled" referred to all the various signs and tribulation prior to His return to Israel. So then it is the general consensus that all these things will be fulfilled by May 2029 and the 70th week from Daniel is 7 years long and based on that one expects the 70th week to begin in 2022.

Psalm 18 is a marvelous psalm that clearly describes the pre tribulation rapture. Studies have done a marvelous job of showing that the Psalms are prophetic with Psalm 1 through Psalm 128 giving us the years 1901 through 2028. So then in 1918 we see two major events take place, a worldwide pandemic and then the end of WWI. Because of WWI we had the great depression, WWII, and the holocaust. Those events give you a very good preview of what the tribulation will be like, what the antichrist will be like, what the concentration camps will be like and even what the mark of the beast will be like. Originally the mark began as "the star of David" being put onto all Jews, then they were herded into ghettos (just like mandating the vaccine and you can't work or go to the various businesses without it). Ultimately they were rounded up from the ghettos and sent to the camps and each person was given a number tattooed to their arm marking them out. That would be the ultimate preview of the mark of the beast. But without a doubt sticking gold stars on the Jews was the first step towards the gas chambers. That was September 1, 1941.

I find it interesting that it was 1948 years from the first Adam to Abraham, and it was 1948 years from the last Adam to Israel being reformed.

As for "being foggy about the end times" the Lord told us it would be as the days of Noah. On Chesvan 17 the rains came down and the ark went up. That was a very important "day of Noah" directly referenced in the bible. In 2020 Chesvan 17 was November 3rd, the day of the stolen election. On the 9th of AV Noah released the raven to fly to and fro over the face of the Earth and on the 9th of AV in 2021 Biden evacuated Afghanistan leaving one of the best equipped militaries behind for the Taliban.

The Lord also said it would be as the days of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah. The account of the angels visiting Lot to see if Sodom's sins were truly as bad as the cries going up to God said reminded me of this Kyle Rittenhouse trial where a crazed mob is outside the house wanting to rape this kid. Or even more like the mobs outside Justice Kavanaugh's house where his two daughters were also.

In Genesis 6 God tells Noah (the name spelled backwards is grace) that His Spirit will not strive with man forever. He gives man 120 years of grace as Noah prepares the ark before the flood comes. According to the Bible there have been 6,000 years since Adam or 120 jubilees (each jubilee is 50 years). Another way to look at this is 1,000 years is as one day to God. After six days comes the sabbath rest -- millennial kingdom. What I find interesting is that according to Jewish tradition Eve and Adam sinned on Chesvan 17, when they sinned they realized they were naked because they were no longer clothed with God's Spirit, the Spirit departed. Paul tells us that "He who restrains" referring to the Holy Spirit striving with sinful man, that when He is taken away (the Holy Spirit covering the Earth) that the man of lawlessness will be revealed (antichrist), which is the start of the tribulation. According to the blessings of Abraham the people of faith, the sons of Abraham, are a blessing to the Earth. They are a covering to the Earth, being one with the Holy Spirit they are restraining evil and striving with the lawless. They will be removed at the rapture. So you could argue that the covering for America was removed the day of the stolen election.

In addition we have a number of fascinating signs in the heavens that have taken place, I don't have room to go into all them here, but the one and only sign the Lord gives to this adulterous age is the sign of Jonah, back in June 2021 there was a man swallowed by a whale. Of course there were also the two cows with the number 7 on their foreheads in September of 2014 indicating 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine with the seven years of famine beginning September 25, 2021 (Pharaoh's dream).

I could go on, suffice it to say that the Bride groom cometh. This vaccine mandate is a midnight cry to "come out of her my people and do not partake of her plagues".

But let's get a little more specific

If you are going to try something so ambitious as to give every person on earth a mark that you can then track them and be able to label each person enabling the government to decide who gets to buy and sell and who doesn't. Well you would need a powerful computer, say a quantum computer, you would need a lot of practice with big data like what Amazon.com uses, you would need 5G installed around the globe, you would need these Starlink satellites up and working, all of that would be a prerequisite.

Then you would want to try out "vaccine passports" in a few areas to see what a rollout will involve.

You would want to try doing a complete lockdown of a major city like Shanghai for practice.

You would want to set up concentration camps say in Australia just to see what would be involved.

You would want someone like Canada to seize bank accounts of Citizens and freeze them to see how people will respond to that.

And most importantly you need a worldwide pandemic to justify this "vaccine passport".


Unless you see all that happening they really aren't in a position to implement the Mark of the Beast.
 

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Acts 8:1-25 -- What can stand in our way of the Gospel?

8 And Saul approved of their killing him.

Just like those that approved of the crucifixion of Jesus.

On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria.

Psalm 80:1 Hear us, Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a flock. You who sit enthroned between the cherubim, shine forth 2 before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might; come and save us. 3 Restore us, O God; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved.


This persecution has been likened to the wind blowing on a dandelion and sending the seeds in all directions. We are seeing the same scattering today. People are being scattered from the social platforms throughout the internet. They are leaving mainstream media, and they are leaving tech giants services like Google and Amazon.com However, once the tribulation begins you will see them killing the saints and then a great persecution will break out.

2 Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.

Psalm 80:4 How long, Lord God Almighty, will your anger smolder against the prayers of your people? 5 You have fed them with the bread of tears; you have made them drink tears by the bowlful. 6 You have made us an object of derision to our neighbors, and our enemies mock us.


This is our history. I heard one atheist mocking Christians as those that believe the reason we don’t have unicorns is because they were late to Noah’s ark. The plan right now is to go after anyone who was in the “MAGA movement”. Since there were 75 million or more who voted for Trump that is not possible, so instead they are targeting high profile people like Mike Lindell and news services like Epoch Times. But you can be sure they will turn on Evangelicals soon enough.

4 Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went. 5 Philip went down to a city in Samaria and proclaimed the Messiah there. 6 When the crowds heard Philip and saw the signs he performed, they all paid close attention to what he said. 7 For with shrieks, impure spirits came out of many, and many who were paralyzed or lame were healed. 8 So there was great joy in that city.

Stephen is killed and Phillip stands up. There is a verse in a song that says “all he could do the foe was just release the flow”.

Psalm 80:7 Restore us, God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved. 8 You transplanted a vine from Egypt; you drove out the nations and planted it. 9 You cleared the ground for it, and it took root and filled the land. 10 The mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches. 11 Its branches reached as far as the Sea, its shoots as far as the River.

Now is not the time to be timid. They are calling for the resignation of some politicians, they are recalling others, and they are passing legislation to deal with issues at the State level that the Federal government won’t deal with. We can hear their shrieks as we see hedge funds lose billions of dollars, and companies that agreed to the “cancel culture” go bankrupt. People are exiting the tech giants and as a result the daily usage of platforms like Twitter is plummeting.

9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.”

One of the really humiliating aspects of the last 2,000 years is the proliferation of charlatans claiming “great power of God”. This is a second way in which the enemy lays the groundwork to mock the church and hold us in derision. Why have so many gone along with this claim that questioning Fauci is to question science? These sorcerers have amazed people and bullied them into submission.

Psalm 80:12 Why have you broken down its walls so that all who pass by pick its grapes? 13 Boars from the forest ravage it, and insects from the fields feed on it.

11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

People who are accomplished illusionists are very good at spotting fakes. This is why the FBI hires hackers to catch hackers and counterfeiters to catch counterfeiters. For Simon to be astonished and to believe is a powerful testimony. The pandemic is the work of sorcerers but God is about to do some truly astonishing plagues.

Psalm 80:14 Return to us, God Almighty! Look down from heaven and see! Watch over this vine, 15 the root your right hand has planted, the son you have raised up for yourself.


14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria.15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

This word “Spirit” can also be translated as breath or wind. When we breathe in the word of God and it becomes our breath, then we receive the Holy Spirit. The teaching and fellowship of the apostles is the breath of God, receive that word by faith and you will be filled with the Holy Spirit.

Psalm 80:16 Your vine is cut down, it is burned with fire; at your rebuke your people perish. 17 Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself. 18 Then we will not turn away from you; revive us, and we will call on your name. 19 Restore us, Lord God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

Such a common thought in the world, “how can I make money from this?” The rule in the New Testament is “freely you have received, freely give”. Money is an idol, the world worships this idol. In the church we only worship Jesus who saved us with the free gift of grace. Get your heart right with the Lord and your question will be how can I express Jesus.

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

Once we have received Jesus by faith He begins to work in us. We need our mind renewed with the mind of Christ. This is not an instantaneous process, but rather a process that takes time. The more we set our mind on Christ the more our mind is renewed. Prayer, fellowship, reading the word, singing hymns of praise, listening to the apostles fellowship, these are all ways in which we can set our mind on Christ.

25 After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan villages.

The chapter began with a great persecution against the church, and yet almost immediately this is turned to the Lord leading a train of vanquished foes as the gospel is spread far and wide.
 

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A time when our world was in wonderment and panic


Streams, lakes and lagoons are blood red.

"Water cleanup has finally begun"

"Climate change is the culprit causing algae growth to be astronomical"

"Leaders unite to push green agenda"

"The end of the world has come declares Jesus believers"

'The New World Order committee is in charge, not your God'

Jesus will be glorified in all the things, good and bad, because He can turn the bad into good.
 

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Laodicea

Shavuot takes place after 7 complete sabbaths. I have a hunch that these “seven complete sabbaths” refer to the believers going through the seven golden lampstands. I would compare this to graduation, you don’t graduate until you complete these seven exams. The rapture is our graduation. So then, if the rapture is imminent we must be in Laodicea or completing Laodicea.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

This is what happens when the Lord tells you to leave and you don’t say Amen. This is what happens when you are willing to watch the faithful and true witness leave but you stay behind. This is what happens when you don’t have faith in the one who is the beginning of the creation of God. You are afraid to start from scratch, better just stay where you are even though it is dead. The vaccine mandate is God saying to leave.

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

This is the boastful, arrogant, and condescending church. In Pergamos others blasphemed them saying they were poor yet they were rich. When you return to your first love this is what you discover, those who the synagogue of Satan is blaspheming as poor it turns out are rich in faith. In Thyatira, those saints who made it through still holding to their first love, they were tried in the fire. In Sardis, those who walked in white with the Lord even though they got excommunicated for it, that is how you pay the price for white raiment. But these saints in Laodicea never did say Amen to the Lord, they made excuses for not being a faithful and true witness, choosing to be more pragmatic and diplomatic. And when it came to trusting in the Lord to make that leap they were faithless, not believing that He was the beginning of the creation of God.

Many Christians are rebuking those of us who are examining the scriptures concerning the rapture saying that we are contradicting the established Bible teachers of the past. In other words they are rich, they have all knowledge, all wisdom, and in reality they are lukewarm Christians. The ones who are hot for the Lord are saying amen, they trust that the Bible is the faithful and true witness and they are getting to know the one who is the beginning of the creation of God. We are seeing an entirely new doctrine, a new understanding of the prophecies. And we are obeying the Lord's command to watch for His return.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

The Lord loves them, but they must be zealous and repent. The Christians who are rebuking us for examining the rapture are the ones that the Lord is rebuking for being lukewarm.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

They have shut the door on the Lord and are ignoring Him even though He is outside knocking for them to open up to Him. We all have access to the internet, we can all open up to this word.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

How do you overcome? By the blood and by the word of your testimony. By saying Amen to the Lord, by being faithful and true to the Lord, and by trusting Him even if you have to lose everything. You have to overcome all the traditions of men, you have to be willing to “go where no Bible teacher has gone before”. You have to walk by faith, but there are those out there looking at the signs in the heavens despite the attack that this is “astrology” (it isn’t) and that it is prohibited by God (it isn’t, He is the one who gave the stars for signs). There are others who are taking apart the calendar and putting it back together again so we can all understand it. There are those looking at the types and shadows of the rapture and at the feasts. Finally, there are those looking at the prophecies like that of Daniel. The rapture is us sitting down with the Lord in His throne, it is us overcoming all the naysayers, all the attacks, all the doubts and unbelief.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
 

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The Lord told us that the servants which were doing what they were supposed to when the Lord returns would be blessed.

There were two in the field, there were two grinding at the mill. This is what we are supposed to be doing.

In another place the Lord says that the servant that is giving the food at the proper time would be blessed.

I believe this is the proper time to be examining the rapture, it is the proper time to be going through the Bible (like Daniel said -- running to and fro through the scriptures) and to be grinding up these grains.

I am thankful for what I have learned about the heavenly calendar that God has. I am thankful for everything I have learned concerning Trumpets, Hanukkah, second Passover, and Shavuot.

I am thankful for what I have learned concerning Daniel and his prophecies.

Some people used to share that "when the last person gets saved then the Lord will come". Their point was that we need to be doing what we are supposed to be doing, there is something that needs to be accomplished in this age and then the Lord will come. I saw that same message in Shavuot where it doesn't give a specific date but rather says "after seven complete Sabbaths, then it is the next day". We need to completely learn the lessons of the seven golden lampstands in Revelation. The last lampstand, Laodicea, has a lesson about not being proud thinking you know everything but willing to open the door to the Lord who is outside of this arrogant "know it all" situation. I think we see this illustrated for us in the debate over the rapture with some willing to leave their comfort zone and go out to the Lord to explore and others who are content that they already know all there is to know and there is nothing else to know.
 

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How do you receive the Spirit?

3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

Compare Paul's account of this story with James' account

21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

You have to look at this story from two different sides, one from Abraham and one from Isaac. Paul is telling us that we are sons of Abraham and that the way we receive the Spirit is by faith. James is saying that without works Abraham's faith is dead. They are both talking about the same thing, how did the faith that Abraham had in the God of resurrection get transmitted from Abraham to Isaac? If Abraham had not transmitted that faith to Isaac then the faith would have died with Abraham.

Now what Paul is saying is he is focusing on how we began by the Spirit. His focus is not on Abraham who is over 100 years old, his focus is on Isaac beginning his walk by faith.

Think about the story, Isaac asks his father, here is the wood but where is the lamb? Abraham tells Isaac that God would provide the lamb. Actually the Hebrew says "God will appear as the lamb" (that is what I am told). That's it, Abraham doesn't tell him anything more till they get to the top of the mountain and he begins to tie up Isaac. So put yourself in the mindset of this 12 or 13 year old boy.

Wait, I know I forgot to take the garbage out last week, I'm sorry. No avail. OK, OK, I know I got a B on that math test, didn't study enough, I was playing too much games, I'm sorry, I promise not to do it again. No avail. Now he is laid out on the altar, Abraham pulls out the knife and is about to kill him when all of a sudden he prays "God, you promised to appear as the lamb!" Boom, the angel appears, stops Abraham, and Isaac is saved. That is how Isaac began a life of faith, he wasn't justified by the works of the law but by faith in the promise of God.

Now consider this from James point of view. If Abraham cannot transmit the faith to his son then his faith is dead. This is how denominations dry up and die. This is what a cult truly is, they stop transmitting the faith in the Savior to the next generation.

Genesis 22:1 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

3 Early the next morning Abraham got up and loaded his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. 4 On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. 5 He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

6 Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, 7 Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

“Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

“The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place The Lord Will Provide. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the Lord it will be provided.”
 

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Blood Moon tetrad

The dates of these four blood moons with their coinciding feast day are: April 15, 2014 - Passover, Oct. 8, 2014 - Feast of Tabernacles, April 4, 2015 - Passover and finally, Sept. 28, 2015 - Feast of Tabernacles.

Some wonder about the blood moons (lunar eclipse). First, they happen every year during a full moon so there is nothing particularly special about a lunar eclipse. What is rare, what is special, what is considered a sign is if you get a tetrad - 4 of them close together over 2-3 years that all appear on Jewish feast days (Passover and Sukkot are full moons). This has happened 9 times since the Lord's crucifixion. They coincide with

1. Lord's crucifixion
2. Destruction of Jerusalem in in AD 70
3. Coliseum Martyrs and Worldwide plague
4. Charlemagne halts Islamic invasion of Europe
5. Dividing of the Roman empire and persecution of the Jews
6. Persecution of Jews by Russians and Persecution of Christians by communists.
7. Expulsion of Jews from Spain which killed many and could be considered genocidal.
8. Reestablishment of the State of Israel in 1948
9. 6 day war returning Jerusalem to Jews

and now we have signs like no other, far more than simply a tetrad. You need to look at the link and see the diagram to get an idea.

https://www.christiantruthcenter.co...iding-with-jewish-feasts-passover-and-sukkot/
 

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A blood moon tetrad will mean two blood moons on Passover and two blood moons on Sukkot in rapid succession.

When you look at the history you see that you have both persecution against the Jews (Spanish inquisition, Holocaust, etc) and a new world (Columbus discovers America, Jews return to Israel, etc)


The same is true of the tribulation. It will be persecution against the Jews followed by Jesus millennial reign.
 

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Their Day of Disaster is Near

Deuteronomy 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither Jehovah thy God hath driven thee, 2 and shalt return unto Jehovah thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thy heart, and with all thy soul; 3 that then Jehovah thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the peoples, whither Jehovah thy God hath scattered thee.

Verse 3 of Deuteronomy 30 is the 5,708th verse of the Bible. 5708 on the Jewish calendar was 1948, the year the Jews returned and God gathered them again.

Deuteronomy 32:35 It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip;
their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.”


By the same measure this would be the verse for 2020, the year of the Pandemic. A bioweapon created in the lab, released intentionally, and then those in charge like Fauci, NIH, WHO intentionally lied to make it worse.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

By the same measure this would be the verse for 1945, the year the atomic bomb was dropped.

2021

Deuteronomy 32:36 For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.

What happened to the church in 2021 that it just went along with the liars?

2022

37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,

This is what is happening today.

38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.

Famine will be full blown next year (beginning this fall).

39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

We will see the 10 plagues of Egypt on the world and they will all know that it is God that kills and makes alive, He is the one that wounds and heals.
 

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Here is what is coming

Oct 2022 --> 2023


Beginning in October of 2022 the word is "there is no safety net". You made offerings to the government, year after year you gave them your tax dollars, now let them rise up and be your protection.

October 2023 --> 2024

You will see that there is no God but Jesus and the triune God. He kills and makes alive, He wounds and heals. We will be seeing the ten plagues and all the miracles that will prove beyond any doubt that Jesus, He is God.

And you will realize no one delivers out of His hand. Kiss the Son quickly so that He is not angry. The tenth plague is the killing of the firstborn of man and beast. No house will be untouched.
 

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2022 is a call to repent. The tribulation then begins in response to those who refuse to repent.