Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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9th of Av, part 17

Tammuz 17 was when the house was broken up

Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

The saints who are raptured are those on the walls watching and trying to prevent the house from being broken in. Once they are raptured the house is broken in, this happened on Tammuz 17 when the walls of Jerusalem were breached. The temple is the house of God and it was broken up on the 9th of Av, three weeks later.
 

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Ezekiel 38 & Revelation 12

If China collapses the whole world will collapse.


The US is a debtor nation. Imagine what happens if China needs to convert their bonds to pay off debts. Ultimately it doesn't matter what debt China converts it will probably cause whatever country that is paying back China to sell US bonds. The only way for us to pay debt is to write debt, if China is not buying our bonds and is forcing other countries to also sell their bonds we will have no buyers. When that happens we are the Weymar republic. Before that day we will raise our interest rates, doing that crushes everyone who already owns our debt, causing it to be worth less and causing their own currency which is dependent on this to also become worth less. The entire world will be affected, not just China and the countries who are forced to pay back China. To make things worse there are many countries that are on the brink of collapse and need loans. If the US raises their rates they also will have to pay higher rates, something that will push more of them over the edge into bankruptcy.

China and Russia are not going to go softly into that good night. You don't passively roll over and die when you have these massive armies and nuclear stockpiles. Both China and Russia have warned the US they are playing with fire and that they will get burned. The solution for both China and Russia is to destroy the US and loot them. In the end what China will need to save itself is the Agricultural might of the US to belong to them. What Russia will need is for the US military to be no more so that there is an open door to control the Middle East oil. Also, with the US military wiped out the door would be open for China to seize Taiwan.

I think we see both of these attacks in Bible prophecy. Ezekiel 38 describes Russia and a bunch of bankrupt Islamic nations in an alliance going to Israel and being wiped out miraculously. Revelation 12 describes the old dragon having a flood of Biblical proportion right after the rapture. If I was Taiwan and China attacked my first response would be to blow up the 3 gorges dam. That is the weak underbelly of the Dragon. With one bomb you take out the entire industrial might of China. You give them a problem so devastating they have to leave you alone to go help the 500 million affected by this flood.
 

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9th of Av, part 18

Biden went to Israel like a thief in the night

1Thessalonians 5:2-3 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.

Joe Biden went to Israel on July 13th (Tammuz 14) saying "peace and safety" and he came like a thief in the night to steal half of Israel away from God. On July 15th, Tammuz 16 he was in Saudi Arabia confirming this stance. Tammuz 17 is when we had "sudden destruction" that came upon the Jews with the walls of Jerusalem being breached and the invading horde sweeping through. They came like a thief in the night saying Peace and safety.
 

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Looks like over the top horror film, and yet it is real.

 

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9th of Av, part 19

Tammuz 17 is the least of days

Of all the days we have looked at: Passover, Firstfruits, Shavuot, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, this is the "least of the days". You would never say that "no one knows the day or the hour" about Passover. I know that Shavuot and Feast of Trumpets seemed like at least to a little degree you could say that. However, the big 7 feasts are all big events in the timeline of Jesus. I think it is a mistake to assume that one of those feasts will be the rapture.

Matthew 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

Luke 9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Luke 16:10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

This word "least" means smallest in size, in rank, in importance, in authority, in the estimation of men. The rapture is when those who were the least in the estimation of men get revealed as not being the least in the estimation of God.
 

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9th of Av, part 20

Look at the Rapture from the perspective of those left behind

Moses broke the tablets on the 17th of Av because of the sin of the molten calf.

Exodus 32 seems to depict the rapture from the perspective of those who are left behind. Dr. Barry Awe compared this to the jealous husband who forces his wife to drink the bitter water in the temple to learn if she has been unfaithful.

On the 17th of Av they didn't have enough sheep for the offerings

During the Babylonian siege of Jerusalem the Jews were forced to cease the daily offerings and sacrifices because of the lack of sheep on the 17th of Tammuz. The sheep are gone on this day. They had to cease the daily offering because of the lack of sheep. Those who are raptured are making a daily offering, once they are taken there are no longer enough sheep to make that offering.

In the book of Revelation there is only one reference to sheep and it is 18:13 in reference to the judgment that falls on the Great Babylon in one day. Acts refers to Jesus being led like a sheep to the slaughter. The Gospel of John refers to sheep more than any New Testament book, it refers in 19 verses to sheep, mentions sheep specifically 22 times, and the sheepfold once. The only other book with a similar number is 1Samuel with 21 verses mentioning sheep, 21 times sheep is used and once sheepcotes is used. These are very interesting numbers in meaning.

John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

The rapture is Jesus leading the sheep out, and once they are gone there is a lack of sheep for the daily offerings to the Lord.

John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Now that is very interesting because Tammuz is the fourth month and the letter for four means door. The word door is tied to the rapture in many verses (Revelation 4:1, James 5:9, Col 4:3, Acts 16:26, Luke 13:25, John 10:9, Mark 11:4, Mark 13:29, Matt 24:33, Isaiah 26:20, SoS 5:4)

John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

This verse is clearly referring to the tribulation, the phony pastors, the crooks running the government, etc.

Mark 6:34 And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.

Mark is the gospel to those left behind during the tribulation and I like how here it says they are like sheep without a Shepherd whereas Luke does not say this. What happened to the shepherds? The true ones were raptured and the false ones were revealed to have been false.

Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

This is the first mention of sheep and interestingly you could view Abel as a pastor or shepherd. The first martyr was a pastor or shepherd.

Some guy burned the holy Torah on the 17th of Tammuz

This reminds me of Moses breaking the tablets. The covenant with God was broken, dishonored. Again, this reminds me of the jealous husband forcing his wife to drink the water mixed with ashes to learn if she has been unfaithful.

An idol was placed in the Holy temple on this date

Once again, a picture of the jealous husband and the unfaithful wife. The saints who are taken before the rapture are not unfaithful and do not provoke the Lord to jealousy, but this looks like the saints who are left behind after the rapture.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

The Walls of the temple were breached by the Romans on 17th of Tammuz

Once again, the walls restrain the evil one from entering Jerusalem. When the man child is raptured the fallen angels are cast to the earth. Paul describes this event as He who restrains (the Holy spirit in the faithful servants) stepping aside.
 

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9th of Av, part 21

The collapse of China, the old dragon

If you thought China was the #1 economy in the world, think again. There is an exchange traded fund which is a basket of all the Chinese stocks, their version of the S&P 500. The price for that fund is exactly where it was in 2008 after the crash of the global economy. If you bought into China 14 years ago after the crash you have not made a dollar, actually you have lost quite a bit because of inflation.

How can this be? Their economy has doubled in size during that time. Yes, but corruption, graft, lack of transparency, idiotic policies, all of these things combine to destroy any credibility in their stocks. And it gets worse. If you had money in a Chinese bank they just reclassified your savings as an investment in a stock which you cannot sell or remove. In one fell swoop they let you know that they will decide if you can ever get your money out of the bank. And yet there is more, real estate prices dropped 30%. Imagine you had a house, cost was $500k, your mortgage was 200K, you are feeling good about having 300k in equity. Well, the cost of your house just dropped by 30%, it is now worth $350k and your equity just dropped by 50%. But it is worse in China because most people are buying the house while it is getting built. Imagine you are paying on this 500k house as they are building it and now you learn you are paying 500k for a house that is worth 350k. How many will just stop paying?

Xi will start a war to save themselves

The problem with a dictator who has complete control, he also has complete accountability. When the people see they have lost their house, they have lost their bank account, they have lost their investment account they will blame Xi. His days are numbered. He'll need a hail Mary to save himself and for dictators that means start a war. Xi is a fire breathing dragon and he just told the US that they are about to get burned.
 

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9th of Av, part 22

Polar opposites

The fourth month is a month of two polar opposites. You have the highest high coming off of Shavuot and you have the lowest low with the sin of the golden calf. This is the setting before the rapture. It is the highest high for those who are raptured, they will be listed in Hebrews 11, they will be like Abraham and the heroes of faith. Then you have the lowest low, the apostasy, all those believers who corrupted themselves with idol worship, who erased the Bible, broke the commandments and even taught others to do the same.

Everything speaks of Sight

During the entire month of Tammuz the Israelites spied out the good land. This month is associated with Reuben (see a Son). The spies all see the same thing, 2 are saying "God is with us" and 10 are saying "we can't do it".
 

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9th of Av, part 23

Remove the Body

The heavenly sign for the fourth month is the crab. A month of revealing, renewing and removing.

The Hebrew word for crab is composed of two words that literally mean "remove the Body". Can't get much more of an illustration of the rapture than that. But it is even deeper, you remove the outer shell to reveal the soul. What happens at the rapture, God reveals who the faithful ones are. The rapture reveals a whole lot, who was true and who was a liar. Who was faithful and who wasn't. Who the Lord knew and who He didn't know.

The crab is an animal that renews itself. It will exchange it's old armor for new armor. This is another picture of the rapture. The saints that are taken are the armor for the crab. They are the prayer warriors, the worship leaders, the light and the salt, the ones with the sword of the Spirit. When they leave what happens? Those who are left behind need to become the new armor.
 

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The 9th of Av, part 24

The Month of Av


The beginning of this month appears to be negative, but the rest of the month is positive.

The highest high is in this month, the fifteenth of Av. We are also told that all the fasts, all the days of destruction will turn to rejoicing, they will turn to positive days. The month of Tammuz is controlled by the moon, the month of Av is controlled by the Sun.

The word sun in Hebrew comes from the word to serve there is another word for sun which means heat. So the sun is very powerful, on the negative side this can be destructive. For example a car is much more powerful than a bike. If you have an accident on a bike it might not be so serious, but if you have an accident in a car it could be far more destructive. Now compare a truck to a car. The sun is very powerful.

The sign of the month is the Lion. A very powerful animal. In Ezekiel the chariot that God sits in has four faces on the four corners, the front right corner is the Lion.

The letter used to create the month is the letter tet. This letter comes from the Hebrew word for good. The entire essence of the month is good. Externally the month looks negative, but the essence is good. The middle of the month is Tub' Av, it is a very auspicious day, the holiday of love. The first part of the month is controlled by the Sun and the second half by the moon. The place where they meet is in the middle.

For many people they can ignore God all the time until things are really bad, then all of a sudden God is punishing you. So what you see as "bad" is actually waking people up to the fact that God is real.

The first use of the word "good" is when God created light on the first day. However, prior to that there was the light of creation and that also was good, but that good was hidden, concealed, to be revealed at a later time.

Then let's consider where this letter tet is not. If you look at the ten commandments, in the first five you can find every letter in the Hebrew alphabet except for the letter tet. God knew that these tablets would be broken and if the letter tet had been there then they couldn't break. In the second five commandments you get the letter tet in one spot where it says "it should be good for you".

The way this letter is written is very concealing, like a circle that goes within itself. Whatever is good will ultimately be concealed. The world is the opposite, the exterior looks good and wonderful while the interior is cheap. This letter represents the good that is not revealed.

The 9th of Av is when the temple is destroyed, twice, and the reason it is destroyed twice (like the two tablets) is because of sins and because we did not serve the Lord with happiness.

It is the same with a marriage. Why do marriages fail, one reason of course is sin. But the other, imagine the husband or wife does everything they are supposed to, no sin, but also no happiness. They appear miserable everyday. Who could endure such a marriage? Where does the happiness come from? You must believe that you are blessed. If you are miserable in your marriage it reveals what you think of your spouse.
 

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The month of Av, continued

The tribe for this month is Simeon, and the sense is hearing.

Hearing doesn't mean listening.

Matthew 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

The Lord has spoken to all of us in parables. Everyone on this earth has access to the Bible. But for most seeing they see not and hearing they hear not.

Matthew 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Last month everyone saw Biden go to Israel, proclaim peace and safety while acting like a thief, stealing half of Israel away. How many perceived that this was a fulfillment of the prophecy in Thessalonians concerning the Lord's second coming? This month everyone has heard Russia warn the US of possible nuclear war, everyone heard Xi warn Biden he was going to get burned, everyone saw NYC put out warnings of what to do in a nuclear attack, and yet how many understand?

Acts 5:5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

Easy to remember, the fifth month is Av, 5:5 this is the time when the Jews were falling down dead in the wilderness like carcasses being strewn about.

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


We have seen this, those that are incapable of hearing others are those who cannot see that the vaccine is harmful or that we are surrounded by liars.

A wise person is able to listen to every person because every person has some portion of truth.

Circumcision is to cut off the foreskin. We have three spiritual foreskins.

1. Foreskin of the heart -- doesn't allow me to receive the word.

2. Foreskin of the lips -- doesn't allow me to speak truth.

3. Foreskin of my ears -- prevents me from hearing what I need to hear.

This is the month of Av, it removes those foreskins.

So we need to pray to remove these foreskins. Listening means you are looking for the truth. Every person, even liars, have some portion of truth. We call this "projection". Whatever they are accusing others of is what they themselves are doing. It is like they are confessing their sins if you can only listen.
 

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9th of Av, part 25

Tammuz is the month of a new beginning -- 8

The letter associated with Tammuz is equivalent to the number 8. The number 8 means new beginning. The rapture is a new beginning. It will be a new beginning for those who are raptured and it will be a new beginning for those who are left behind.

1Peter 3:20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

It is interesting that eight souls are saved and Tammuz is associated with the number 8.

This month is an opportune time to restore good to its predestined pure status. We have been hearing many prophecies concerning cities being bombed, burned, flooded and destroyed. These are warnings, get out, just like Lot was warned. Why is the Lord doing this? Because it is an opportunity to restore the earth to its predestined pure status. A lot of evil things will have to be burned up and destroyed first. Last month God brought the reversal and now it is our turn to respond to God to bring the reversal as well.
 

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This is stunning!

I did the calculation, it is complicated and it comes out to the 9th of Av!
My mistake, it comes out to the 9th of August. It is not clear to me if that is one day after the 9th of Av or 2 days or even 3 days.

Hebrew days begin at sunset, Julian days begin at Noon, and Gregorian days begin at Midnight. Suffice it to say we are about 10 days away from this event, give or take.
 

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9th of Av, part 26

The ten plagues of Egypt,

Exodus 5:1 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.

After what? Moses and Aaron show up at Pharaoh's palace to tell him let the Israelites go. Why does he even listen to them, what are they referring to "after what"?

2 And Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go. 3 And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the Lord our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.


When did the God of the Hebrews meet with them? The previous chapter talks about Moses and Aaron meeting with the Israelites and showing them the signs.

This has bothered me a lot, where does this fit in the end time scenario. I think Moses and Aaron refer to the two witnesses (in typology) that appear after the rapture. I think the rapture is what they are referring to. It will be "God meeting with them" and it will be them "seeing all the signs".

Interesting, it seems that we have overwhelming evidence of the rapture being when the third temple is removed on the 9th of Av. Three days later the plagues begin just as they are warning Pharaoh. You can imagine after an event like the rapture that Moses would be able to go speak to Pharaoh.
 

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9th of Av, part 27

Tammuz is dedicated to exalting the name of God

Our Father who art in heaven (3rd month -- Shavuot)

Hallowed be thy name (4th month -- Tammuz)

Thy kingdom come (5th month -- Av)

The gematria of the fourth month is the same as "great, holy". Both equal 453. This month was dedicated for God's name to be truly exalted and sanctified in this world through the word of God. The reason the temple's destruction began during this month was because the tablets were destroyed during this month. The word of God will result in an indestructible temple, not the word written on stone but the covenant written on our heart. God preordained that this month is the time to build the tabernacle.

Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

The word for "cannot be moved" means unshaken, unmoved. Figuratively it means not liable to overthrow and disorder. The first two temples were overthrown, they were subject to disorder so that one stone was not left upon another.

Tammuz is an acronym -- "you our king be magnified and sanctified"

This month is our opportunity to rebuild the temple. This month is associated with the prophet Haggai.

Haggai 2:9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

The birth of Joseph took place in this month, a symbol of Jesus Christ, Savior of the World (Zaph Naph Paaneah). His bones are taken up and brought into the good land signifying the dead in Christ rise first. Another reference to the rapture and the tribulation.
 

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9th of Av, part 28

Tammuz is typified by Reuben

Tammuz is the month typified by Reuben. He was the first born, the first to open the womb. He was also the one to convert sins with repentance. Who are the firstfruits? They are sinners saved by grace. If Reuben can be saved that means anyone can be saved. This month is a dichotomy. Those who are taken depict those sinners saved by grace and those left behind signify those who still need a full repentance.

Reuben is the one who returned to the pit. He had wanted to deliver Joseph and when he saw that Joseph had been taken he wept and repented before the Lord. He initiates repentance. Joseph signifies those that are raptured and Reuben initiates the repentance of those left behind.

This is the month you reach into the hearts of those you thought would never change and they change.

This one letter stands for sin, it also stands for grace, and it is the number 8 signifying that which is beyond physical existence. This letter also leads to life. The same letter used for sin, and grace is used for life.