Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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These Hypocrites will try to cut you off from the word of God.

2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin], for correction [of error and restoration to obedience], for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will, both publicly and privately—behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage];

It has recently come to my attention that not everyone reading this thread believes this, so let's go over the truth in the New Testament.

In 1Corinthians we are told that the things that happened to Israel were for our example.

We are also told by Paul that all scripture (that includes the Old Testament) is good for teaching, exhortation and equipping the man of God.

In Hebrews we are told to not harden our hearts like Israel did.

In the letters to the churches in Revelation we are told that one church had those that held to the teaching of Balaam and Balak. These were two people from the OT. Another church had Jezebel in their midst. So it is clear that the things that happen in the OT apply to us in the NT. We need to learn from them and be warned by them.

In Galatians we are told that Abraham had a child of promise by faith and he had a child from his flesh. These two women (Sarah and Hagar) are two covenants. So we learn that the New Testament covenant can be seen in the OT types and shadows. Hebrews talks about us having a new heart of flesh with the laws of God inscribed on our hearts, that is from the OT prophets yet it was a prophecy about the NT covenant.

For example: Galatians 4:30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman [Hagar] and her son [Ishmael], For never shall the son of the bondwoman be heir and share the inheritance with the son of the free woman.”

In 2Corinthians we are told that we are the temple of the living God. So all of the verses in the OT concerning the temple can be applied to the church. In Ephesians it says that the church is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, again reenforcing this point. Peter tells us we are a royal priesthood, so all the words in the OT concerning the kings and priests apply to us as well in a figure. In Hebrews our walk with the Lord is compared to the High Priest who had an anchor in the holy of holies.

For example: 1Timothy 5:18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain [to keep it from eating],” and, “The worker is worthy of his wages [he deserves fair compensation].”

This is an OT law that Paul is applying in a figure to workers in the gospel.

Jesus said we live by every word of God.

We are told that Jesus is the "Last Adam" a clear reference to the OT that we would need to help us understand this. Like Adam, Jesus was put to sleep, blood and water was taken from his side, and with that God built the bride for Adam.

In Acts 3 and Hebrews 7 Jesus is compared to Moses. Again, we can look at the account of Moses to get a grasp of who Jesus will be. For example, Moses comes to save Israel when he is 80 and we have many other examples suggesting that Jesus returns to save Israel when they are 80 (2029).

We are also told that Jesus our Passover has been sacrificed for us. How could you possibly understand what that means without the OT account of the Passover?

In Hebrews 7 we are told that Jesus is a high priest after the order of Melchizedek. Again, you would have to read the OT to know what that order is.

We are given many other examples like Manna, the rock that followed us, the pillar of fire and the cloud, the serpent lifted up on a pole.

We are also told in John that Jesus is the word of God incarnated that tabernacled with us. So again, you have to read about the tabernacle to understand this.

Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees, they will try and short circuit the word of God with their traditions.

Matthew 23:13 “But woe (judgment is coming) to you, [self-righteous] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven in front of people; for you do not enter yourselves, nor do you allow those who are [in the process of] entering to do so.

The word of God is light and life, it will guide you and sustain you. These hypocrites will try to cut you off from the word of God.
 

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One of you is a devil (ally of Satan)

John 6:70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve [disciples]? And yet one of you is a devil (ally of Satan).” 71 Now He was speaking of Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot; for he, one of the twelve [disciples], was about to betray Him.

One of you is a devil (ally of Satan), surely this can be a reference to the AntiChrist. Generally we consider Judas to be an example of the false prophet, or a type of the False prophet along with Balaam. But the Antichrist is also an ally of Satan and would it not also follow the pattern that Jesus would choose him as well? We have about 12 major categories of Christian churches:
Lutheran
Reformed (Presbyterian)
Anglican
Anabaptist
Baptist
Methodist
Campbellite (church of Christ)
Quaker
Plymouth Brethren
Pentecostal
Evangelical
and
Catholic (including Eastern orthodox, etc)


So then doesn't it fit this pattern that the "head" of one of these groups would betray the Lord and be an ally of Satan just like Judas?

Now consider this, we know that the Antichrist is a king, and almost certainly a European king. How many of these denominations have a European King as their head? Certainly narrows down the possibilities.
 

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One of the twelve was about to betray Him

John 6:71b for he, one of the twelve [disciples], was about to betray Him.

Isn't this what King Charles is about to do?

A forward thinking religious royal
At a meeting of faith leaders shortly after his mother’s death and his accession to the throne, Charles spoke more specifically of his approach to protecting faith in the UK.

“I have always thought of Britain as a ‘community of communities.’ That has led me to understand that the Sovereign has an additional duty – less formally recognized but to be no less diligently discharged. It is the duty to protect the diversity of our country, including by protecting the space for Faith itself and its practise through the religions, cultures, traditions and beliefs to which our hearts and minds direct us as individuals,” Charles said.

“This diversity is not just enshrined in the laws of our country, it is enjoined by my own faith. As a member of the Church of England, my Christian beliefs have love at their very heart. By my most profound convictions, therefore – as well as by my position as Sovereign – I hold myself bound to respect those who follow other spiritual paths, as well as those who seek to live their lives in accordance with secular ideals.”


https://www.euronews.com/culture/20...es-iii-be-a-new-kind-of-defender-of-the-faith

What is he saying, that being a defender of the faith is antithetical to loving your neighbor as yourself?

The context of this word in John is that Jesus has said if you don't eat His flesh and drink His blood you will have no life. Jesus is going to give his body and blood on the cross so that we can live, everyone who receives this, and yet Charles is telling people he cannot be a defender of this faith and love his neighbor?
 

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Consider how amazing it is that Revelation predicted, almost 2,000 years ago, that the entire world would not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

At the time of John that must have seemed completely absurd. If I am in the jungles of Africa how is some Roman leader going to know if I am buying or selling much less control that? Suppose I am in a crowded slum in India, or somewhere up in Siberia, or on a tropical island in the Pacific.

No human could have imagined Starlink, Quantum computers, RFID chips, the internet, etc.
 

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Pattern is prophecy

John 13:21-30: "After saying these things, Jesus was troubled in his spirit, and testified, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.'

There are many kinds of sin and Jesus died to pay the price for all sin. We are also told that He can sympathize with us since He in all things has suffered like us. So we know he must be betrayed. However, we do see a major betrayal by the AntiChrist in the account of the last seven years where in the midst of the seven years he breaks the covenant, causes the sacrifices to cease, sets up an idol in the Temple and proclaims himself to be god that needs to be worshipped.

Also, when Jesus says to take up your cross and follow Him it includes being betrayed.

The disciples looked at one another, uncertain of whom he spoke. One of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was reclining at table at Jesus' side, so Simon Peter motioned to him to ask Jesus of whom he was speaking. So that disciple, leaning back against Jesus, said to him, 'Lord, who is it?' Jesus answered, 'It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.'

There are similar accounts to this in Matthew and Mark, but not in Luke. I consider Luke to be the gospel to those raptured prior to the tribulation, Mark to those taken during the tribulation and Matthew to Israel taken at the end of the tribulation. We are told that during the tribulation you will be betrayed by members of your own family. We also know that Israel is betrayed. However, in Luke it seems the betrayal is a little less personal "the hand of the one betraying Me is with Mine on the table". For example, the way the Feds set up people in the kidnapping of Governor Whitmer plot and perhaps the January 6th event as well. They are "with" you but not so closely associated with you.

So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. Then after he had taken the morsel, Satan entered into him. Jesus said to him, 'What you are going to do, do quickly.'

Judas had already negotiated with the Jewish leaders to betray Jesus, this didn't prompt him to make that deal, as Jesus said "what you are going to do, do quickly". Instead Jesus gave him the prompt to do it at that moment which the Jewish rulers didn't want to do because of the crowds. We are seeing this work out today where the deep state seems to be flailing away realizing that they have to act quickly. The Durham report condemns them as accomplices in a fraudulent election of Biden, bank records indicate nine members of Biden's family received payments from foreign countries in exchange for actions Biden took, MTG has filed impeachment motion against Biden and no doubt against Mayorkas and many others as well will follow. The lies about border security are for all to see. As you have done, it will be done to you. They betrayed Jesus at the start of this age, the world will be betrayed at the end of the age.

For example, Jesus is the strongman, the way Samson was betrayed and captured and brought to the idol temple is prophetic concerning the rapture of the church because the church is the pillar and base of the truth. When Samson pushes out the pillars he causes the entire condemned structure of the world to collapse. The numeric value of pillar in Hebrew equals the value of the church in Greek. Hence Paul said the church is the pillar and base of the truth. When the church is raptured the whole worldly idol temple collapses. Haman was also a traitor and the account of Esther is also prophetic. Absalom was also a traitor.

Now no one at the table knew why he said this to him. Some thought that, because Judas had the moneybag, Jesus was telling him, 'Buy what we need for the feast,' or that he should give something to the poor. So, after receiving the morsel of bread, he immediately went out. And it was night."

There is nothing in this verse that suggests Judas didn't know. Instead he probably realized his cover had been blown and so he had to act quickly and that is probably why the Jewish leaders also reacted immediately.

I find it interesting that we seeing the same pressures on the crooked corrupt leaders of this government today. We have a debt ceiling deadline looming, the crisis at the border is no longer tenable as even the staunchest allies of Biden in NYC are rebelling, the evidence about the plandemic and vaccine are becoming very clear for all to see, the war in Ukraine has become nuclear with the destruction of the weapons depot filled with uranium, the assassination attempts on Putin as well as the destruction of the Nordstream pipeline has caused the whole world to see that Putin is justified in attacking the US is self defense, and the irresponsible spending of the US government is affecting all the countries around the world.
 

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What I find most interesting is why would the Jewish leaders pay Judas to betray Jesus? They said they were afraid that if everyone followed Jesus the Romans would come and take their country away. They worship God whose Holy word tells them the Messiah, the son of David will come and slay the giants just as David did and yet they had cut a deal with the Romans to the point they need to kill the Messiah.

That is the pattern that is far more interesting to me. The apostasy is infiltrated by this state religion which are simply puppets of the Satanic Roman Empire. They are choosing to have the appearance of worshipping God over the real thing.

This is what we see today in the Apostasy. They want to control churches by the board of directors as to what they can say and can't say. They want the LGBTQ+ agenda to infiltrate the church, they want to prohibit pastors from teaching on prophesy, and they build up these mega churches with a powerful media ministry.

Initially the preaching of an itinerant preacher is not going to show up on their radar, at least not until they learn He is baptizing more than John the Baptist. But after three years Jesus has become the biggest thorn in their side and they realize if they don't stop Him now the whole world will follow Him. This also is what we are seeing now. Two years ago I started this blog, it was for me, I wasn't trying to appeal to anyone, didn't come up with a fancy title, all I wanted to do was to dive into the topic and felt I should make it public in case anyone else is interested. I figured there might be 10 other people who find this blog. Now we are over 200,000 and if you look you can see how many links I post from other sites. These ones will get 25,000 views in one night. Initially they were ridiculed and lumped into the same ash heap as all the others who had said the Lord was coming over the last few decades. But that didn't dissuade anyone. Two years ago there seemed to be only a few questionable signs, but take a look at this blog, I am averaging 10 posts a day since it started (the start time on this site is actually a year after I actually started because I was forced to leave the first forum I was posting on). I don't think I have missed a single day. There are more than 8,000 posts all pointing to some issue around the rapture and the Lord's return.

At some point the evidence is overwhelming, undeniable and those who continue to reject it will be without excuse.
 

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There is clearly a pre-tribulation rapture

Luke 21:36 But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

There are some believers who teach that this is not necessary because there is only one rapture, no one is going to escape all these things taking place. They teach that all believers will have "tribulation". A pre tribulation rapture does not mean you avoid the cross of Christ. For two thousand years saints have taken up the cross and followed Jesus, they didn't need to be in the tribulation to do that.

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Obviously those who were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus did not escape the tribulation, those who refused to worship the beast or its image and who did not receive its mark on their foreheads, they didn't escape the tribulation. This shows there must be several groups of Christians who are raptured or taken (those who are beheaded obviously died first).

Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.

However, these did. Once again there is a reward for those who keep the word of the Lord's patient endurance.

Revelation 3: 3 Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

What is the point of this warning if everyone is going to be raptured at the same time?

Matthew 25:10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

What is the point of this warning? Obviously some will not be taken. Some will be ready when the Lord returns and some won't be.
 

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Any time is right for you

John 7:6 So Jesus said to them, “My time has not yet come; but any time is right for you.

The Lord has a much harder and more precise job, but He gives us the easy job. Any time is right for us to witness, to preach, to teach, to worship, to pray.

7 The world cannot hate you [since you are part of it], but it does hate Me because I denounce it and testify that its deeds are evil.

This is the problem with the apostasy, Christians trying to make friends of the world, they don't want to denounce evil deeds, don't want to offend, don't want to rebuke, don't want to expose. "Can't we all just get along" attitude.

8 Go up to the feast yourselves. I am not going up to this feast because My time has not yet fully come.” 9 Having said these things to them, He stayed behind in Galilee. 10 But [afterward], when His brothers had gone up to the feast, He went up too, not publicly [with a caravan], but quietly [because He did not want to be noticed].

The only explanation for this is that the Lord's time had not yet fully come because His brothers had not gone up to the feast. The Lord is waiting on us, when we step out in faith then He also will be there with us.
 

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Being prepared and taking heed to warnings coming from God makes perfect sense to me as a believer.

He uses advertisers so I can see some that listen to this will want to hear from someone without a financial interest.

1. From everything I have seen in the Bible many Christians will go through the tribulation. I estimate it will be about 85% of believers. This is critical, thinking that since we are going to be raptured prior to the tribulation is not an excuse to not prepare. Even if you are raptured, what about your family, and other members of the church and your neighbors?

2. Some may argue that if you are left in the tribulation then you will be a martyr, so what difference does it make? The word martyr means "witness" and being able to minister to family, friends and church members would be a positive witness. From everything I understand there will be a great revival during the tribulation, much like what we see in the book of Acts.

So then with those two points in mind

The Lord fed 5,000 but remember there was someone there with a few small fish and loaves of bread. The Lord broke those and fed thousands. Like that brother I think having food for the tribulation will be greatly appreciated and contribute to the miracles and revival.

2nd, as far as "silver and gold" goes Peter says in Acts he has none. However, the Lord also changes his original statement:

Matthew 10:9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,


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Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

I believe that Luke is the gospel to those who are raptured prior to the tribulation and by doing this the Lord is showing us that things change once the tribulation begins. You are not going to be able to buy or sell so having silver or gold in your possession may, in some cases allow you to witness for longer and minister for longer.

Finally he talks about EMP.

This does not make any sense to me. If EMP knocks out all electrical equipment who cares if your car still works. Will you be able to get gas at the gas station? Where exactly are you driving to? What if you came upon a hundred people in the street who will smash your car and kill you? Are you going to drive through them? Same thing with your house. What is the point of having your electricity work if the power station has gone down? I could be wrong about this but never once have I felt in my spirit that I need to get these EMP shields.

This brings up a very important point. I don't believe the purpose of the tribulation is to kill people. Instead I believe it is a cleansing. On one hand the evil, satanic, demonic, people who love a lie and make lies will be cleansed off the land. On the other hand those that have hesitated in giving themselves fully to the Lord will get the push they need. 7 years is not 7 minutes, it is not 7 hours or 7 days or 7 weeks. Being prepared and taking heed to warnings coming from God makes perfect sense to me as a believer.
 

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They are not real shepherds, they are only hired hands

Ezekiel 12:1 The word of the Lord also came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house. 3 Therefore, thou son of man, prepare thee stuff for removing, and remove by day in their sight; and thou shalt remove from thy place to another place in their sight: it may be they will consider, though they be a rebellious house.

There is more than one way to testify to others. When we resigned our jobs, sold our house and moved that was a testimony concerning the vaccine Mandate and the current situation. I was interviewed on TV so by God's sovereignty I was able to share that testimony with many people in NYC as well as the teachers and students in my school.

4 Then shalt thou bring forth thy stuff by day in their sight, as stuff for removing: and thou shalt go forth at even in their sight, as they that go forth into captivity.

Meanwhile what has happened to NYC, they have gone forth into captivity. Even their mayor is crying out that he can't handle the immigrants. The local people are protesting having the immigrants in schools or kicking out veterans to house immigrants. Businesses are shutting down due to the crime. Meanwhile I am still on Bible studies with saints in NY through Zoom.

5 Dig thou through the wall in their sight, and carry out thereby. 6 In their sight shalt thou bear it upon thy shoulders, and carry it forth in the twilight: thou shalt cover thy face, that thou see not the ground: for I have set thee for a sign unto the house of Israel. 7 And I did so as I was commanded: I brought forth my stuff by day, as stuff for captivity, and in the even I digged through the wall with mine hand; I brought it forth in the twilight, and I bare it upon my shoulder in their sight.

When we left NY it was as though we were fleeing from an approaching army. Everything I couldn't take I gave away. There were no sales, I called thrift stores to come and haul it away free.

8 And in the morning came the word of the Lord unto me, saying, 9 Son of man, hath not the house of Israel, the rebellious house, said unto thee, What doest thou? 10 Say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; This burden concerneth the prince in Jerusalem, and all the house of Israel that are among them. 11 Say, I am your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove and go into captivity.

Look at Ukraine. If they had done as I had done in December before Russia attacked they would have suffered a small financial loss, but otherwise would have been fine. But those who remained lose everything. Their house is bombed, their city destroyed and their sons dragged off to die for Zelensky.

12 And the prince that is among them shall bear upon his shoulder in the twilight, and shall go forth: they shall dig through the wall to carry out thereby: he shall cover his face, that he see not the ground with his eyes. 13 My net also will I spread upon him, and he shall be taken in my snare: and I will bring him to Babylon to the land of the Chaldeans; yet shall he not see it, though he shall die there. 14 And I will scatter toward every wind all that are about him to help him, and all his bands; and I will draw out the sword after them.

The Lord spoke to them through the prophets, but they rejected it, instead trusting in their "princes"! All these guys will do is try to save their own necks. I have seen this many times, the bank will tell you everything is fine right up until the day they lock their doors and declare they are bankrupt. Only the rich and the elites get a heads up and they will try to save themselves before everyone else. This testifies that they are not real shepherds, but only hired hands.

Think about the Antichrist, he has a body like a leopard meaning he will strike suddenly. Leopards will hide in trees and jump on unsuspecting prey. When the antichrist appears in full it will be so suddenly you will have no chance to respond. If you walk into his trap you will become prey.
 

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The days are at hand

Ezekiel 12:15 And they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall scatter them among the nations, and disperse them in the countries.

They don't know He is Lord when they hear your testimony, or when they see you resign, or they see you move, or they see the city become overrun, or the businesses close down. No, it isn't until they are led away that they then say "that was God speaking to us, should have listened".

16 But I will leave a few men of them from the sword, from the famine, and from the pestilence; that they may declare all their abominations among the heathen whither they come; and they shall know that I am the Lord.


There are two aspects to a testimony, you have those who are sounding the alarm, the watchmen. You also have those who testify that they were filled with abominations and that is why the US and NYC fell. The rest of the world is going to want to know why did this great nation fall. I remember spending the summer at my grandfather's house, he was an old Navy officer from WWII. My younger brother got punished for cursing and he "washed his mouth out with soap". Later I asked my brother what did that mean? He told me it meant what it sounded like. He "washed his mouth out with soap".

17 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 18 Son of man, eat thy bread with quaking, and drink thy water with trembling and with carefulness; 19 And say unto the people of the land, Thus saith the Lord God of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and of the land of Israel; They shall eat their bread with carefulness, and drink their water with astonishment, that her land may be desolate from all that is therein, because of the violence of all them that dwell therein.

What are the watchmen saying right now? Warning about storing up food. It is the same thing. Many scoff and think that is a joke. Go ahead, ignore the 120+ food processing plants that are damaged, ignore the elimination of the use of fertilizer from some of the biggest food exporting nations, ignore the war in Ukraine, ignore 6 million illegals streaming into the country, sleep on.

20 And the cities that are inhabited shall be laid waste, and the land shall be desolate; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.


Once again, the scoffers will know that Jesus is Lord when the land is desolate. They won't heed the warnings, they will make a joke of them, but before they die they will know that Jesus is Lord.

21 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 22 Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?

The proverb now is "no one knows the day or the hour". Another great thing they love to reference is 88 reasons why the rapture is in 1988. Doesn't matter that I and many others were around in 1988 and had nothing to do with that book, nor did we spread that kind of talk.

23 Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord God; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision.

The days are at hand.

24 For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.


These vain and flattering visions were designed to sell books by flim flam men. This is why I think it is important to not be involved in any selling of anything. I see that some of these channels do get involved with advertisers, that choice is between them and the Lord Jesus, but for me I refuse to do that because there needs to be a clear distinction between those who try to make merchandise of the saints and those who have freely received and so freely give.

25 For I am the Lord: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord God.

Rebellion is a terrible sin. Here he puts unbelief and rebelliousness together, those are two horrible sins.

26 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying. 27 Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off. 28 Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the Lord God.

None of the Lord's words shall be prolonged any more.
 

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