Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Gehazi

2Kings 5:26 And he said unto him, Went not mine heart with thee, when the man turned again from his chariot to meet thee? Is it a time to receive money, and to receive garments, and oliveyards, and vineyards, and sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and maidservants? 27 The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.

There are many pastors and religious leaders that will be exposed at the rapture. They portray themselves as a prophet of the Lord, like Elisha, but in reality they are like Gehazi.

Gehazi means "valley of vision" and this is how these pastors portray their ministry, they have the vision, but it isn't from the mountain top but down in the valley. It is very hard, cold, windy to be on a mountain top, but down in the valley is the best place for your farm, for running water, to be rich and comfortable.
 

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Mark 8:1-13 Another large crowd

1 During those days another large crowd gathered. Since they had nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples to him and said, 2 “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat. 3 If I send them home hungry, they will collapse on the way, because some of them have come a long distance.” 4 His disciples answered, “But where in this remote place can anyone get enough bread to feed them?” 5 “How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked. “Seven,” they replied. 6 He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people, and they did so. 7 They had a few small fish as well; he gave thanks for them also and told the disciples to distribute them. 8 The people ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 9 About four thousand were present. After he had sent them away, 10 he got into the boat with his disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha.
11 The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. 12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it.” 13 Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side.

We saw that the rapture will result in a revival with the Lord feeding 5,000. The Mark of the Beast will also drive people to the Lord in another revival. They will come from a long way without anything to eat, why, they know it is the antichrist, the tribulation, and the mark of the beast. In the last chapter we see that we need the faith to not worry about being called a dog, or the lowest of the low, or a “deplorable”. Second we need our ears and tongue loosed so that we can hear clearly and spit out the truth. Once people hear this word they will flee to the Lord. There are prophecies that during the tribulation there will be a great revival and you will see these miracles done. Without the mark of the beast you will not be able to buy or sell, so the Lord steps in to bless the food and feed the five thousand. Now in this context imagine the Pharisees asking for a sign? The sign is that all the words of the Lord are being fulfilled. Read the Bible! The Lord telling us all this 2,000 years in advance should be enough to strengthen your faith.
 

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Jeremiah 25:38 The first rapture

38 Like a lion he will leave his lair, and their land will become desolate because of the sword of the oppressor and because of the Lord’s fierce anger.

On the one hand the first rapture is likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, but what about the foolish virgins who are locked out of the feast? On one hand it is likened to reaping the harvest to the barn, but what about the crops that are not ripe yet? On one hand it is likened to the Lord returning from a long journey to settle accounts, but what about those Christians who buried their talent? The rapture is likened to both Noah being rescued and Lot being rescued. Noah is in Hebrews chapter 11, Faith's hall of fame, as a "preacher of righteousness". Lot is not in Hebrews chapter 11, he is called "a righteous man". Even though he was righteous he buried his talent, kept his mouth shut, didn't make waves. We see this in Genesis when they treat him with scorn "who are you to tell us what to do?" Hey, if you were a man of God you would have been taken in the first rapture, God doesn't want you, why should we listen to you.

On the one hand it is the sword of the oppressor, or the totalitarian regime. They hate the church, everyone needs to worship them, listen to them. They are completely against free thought or free speech. People are treated like dumb beasts of burden who work to build up their kingdom until they can’t and then they are killed. Look at the numbers of those killed by this pandemic closely, it is almost exclusively the elderly and the infirm. Those that are costing the State money. Their death has saved the state money in healthcare costs and pension costs. Secondly it's because of the Lord’s fierce anger. You rejected His word. You rejected His warnings.

Throughout the Bible, both Old and New testaments, we see the same story. Two spies give a good report, ten spies give an evil report. Joshua and Caleb enter the good land, everyone else dies in the wilderness. Everyone needs to be right with Jesus because if you are left behind after the rapture it will be something you will need to repent of.
 

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Lepers and the rapture

Leviticus 13:45 “Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes, let their hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of their face and cry out, ‘Unclean! Unclean!’ 46 As long as they have the disease they remain unclean. They must live alone; they must live outside the camp.

Leviticus 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease, 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.

We are all lepers cleansed by the Lord's blood. Hyssop was the little shrub that was used to wipe the blood on the doorposts during Passover. It signifies our weak faith. The yarn signifies our clothes which are the "righteousnesses of the saints". We need all our deeds to be washed in the blood. The cedar wood signifies our human nature. Not only all what we do but also all that we are needs to be washed in the blood. If this is the case then we will fly away, that is we will be raptured.

But what about those Christians for whom this is not the case? During the Tribulation the mark of the beast will cause them to be outcasts. They will wear torn clothes, they will be unkempt, they will wear a face mask covering the lower part of the face, and they will cry out "unclean! unclean!". They didn't choose to go outside the camp willingly but the Lord will give them a second chance.
 

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Coverstone Dream - Let me Show you Something 05/23/2023

1. Chemtrails spread new virus

2. Southern invasion, no mercy

3. Media distracts

4. Internal revolution

5. Church on spiritual fire
 

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A Master class in discernment

John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

How do you discern? You have Jesus and the established religious leaders debating, how do you discern between the two? First, you see that those who are of the devil are seeking to kill Jesus, that is a sure sign that you are aligned with the murderer. Why are they seeking to kill Him? It isn't because He has committed a crime, it is because "my word hath no place in you". It is like the computer saying "It does not compute". They belong to a system where "crucifying the flesh with the passions and lusts" does not compute.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

Another key point, they claim they are children of Abraham, children of faith, children of God, but they are not doing the works of Abraham, of faith, of God.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Once again, we are told not to look at the outward (they are of the seed of Abraham), don't focus on what they say, focus on their deeds. Focus on the fact that they are seeking to kill a man who told them the truth.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Very important. If your ministry is under attack, if you are on the front lines and the fog of war is everywhere you will know who is of the Father because they will love you. Discernment is not just about discerning false prophets but also discerning those that are true.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.


Often it seems you get into debates and the other person seems incapable of hearing your word, that is a sure sign they are of the devil.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

People who are of the devil are very good at speaking lies. In tennis you will have a strong forehand or backhand. Almost all tennis players prefer one or the other, so if you find someone who is just really good at lying you know they of their father the liar.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Read that again! It is supposed to be that a person's credibility increases because they speak the truth. However, look at how thieves and liars and murderers will attack the credibility of a whistleblower or witness. If the person is a liar, no problem, they ignore them, but because they tell the truth they attack them and try to create reasons not to believe them.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?


Isn't that funny? Imagine if we were talking about Trump. Which of you convinces him of sin? Mueller? 1st impeachment? 2nd impeachment? Mar-a-Lago raid? If he is speaking the truth why do they not believe him? It is because the truth convicts them of sin.

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Once again, if you are speaking God's word and others hear what you are saying it is proof they are of God. It is a great way to discern who is of God and who isn't.

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?


Reminds me of Joe Biden accusing half the country of being domestic terrorists. Why? Because they didn't vote for him?

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

This is a big one, this is when Satan is fully exposed. I saw the FBI whistleblowers testifying and the outrageous attempts by some lawmakers to dishonour them when it was so clear they were honouring their oath of office.

50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

This is another true test of a man of God. Is he seeking his own glory?

51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

If you are going to stand up to this evil, satanic worldly system you need to keep the Lord's saying. They will try to destroy you, they will look for any opportunity to attack you. They don't want to make a martyr of you, they know that will increase your credibility, not decrease it. What they want to do is to first destroy your credibility. The Lord is telling us, follow His instructions, follow His game plan, and that will not happen.

52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


This is the one that we have. The great I am.

59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
 

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THE ANTICHRIST PART II | Author Tim Cohen and Alfred Weber.

 

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As "A TRUMPET FOR MY PEOPLE," I must share this warning

He completely misunderstands what Dr. Barry Awe is teaching.

This has become a very contentious issue so I will summarize what Dr. Barry Awe taught, I include this link only to let you see some people are very contentious.

1. Acts said that Jesus appeared to the disciples 40 days, but the word for days could very easily be "times".

2. In the gospel of John we see the first time Jesus appeared was on the evening of the resurrection day which by the Biblical reckoning would be the start of the next day. The second time Jesus appeared was a week later and the third time he appeared was when Peter went fishing.

Therefore, at the very least we know that Jesus appearing 40 times was not 40 days in a row and should not be interpreted that way. The second thing we can conclude is that at the very least ascension day was 47 days after the resurrection, and very likely more than that as we don't assume Peter goes fishing a day after Jesus appears to them and doubting Thomas sees Jesus.

3. Shavuot is one of the three major feasts of the Jews, it is the day after 7 sabbaths. Some assume that means 50 days, but it doesn't. In fact it would be at least 52 days and maybe 53 days. This is because the Jewish calendar is based on the moon with the new moon being the first day of each month. It takes 29.5 days from one new moon to the next. That means one "new moon sabbath" will be either 2 days or three days. As a result Shavuot is never referred to as "fifty" or "pentecost" but rather "the feast of weeks".

4. Others confuse the Gregorian calendar with the Jewish calendar. Passover is always on the 14th and the 14th is always a sabbath (Passover sabbath) because the sabbaths are the 7th, 14th, 21st, and 28-30th days of each month. So then you count seven complete sabbaths from Passover: 21, 28-30, 7, 14, 21, 28-30, 7, and then on the 8th you have Shavuot. (so forget about things like Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, etc, those days are not part of the Jewish calendar).

5. This means that Shavuot is always on the 8th day of the 5th month, a very clear reference to Jesus.

So then Dr. Barry Awe is teaching that Jesus ascended on Shavuot, not on the 40th day. Jesus' birth was on a feast day, His death was on a feast day, His burial was on a feast day, and His resurrection was on a feast day. Therefore it would make sense that His ascension is also on a feast day.

If Jesus ascended on Shavuot then when He said to remain in Jerusalem until Pentecost was fully come He was not equating Shavuot to Pentecost. They don't remain for ten days, they remain for fifty days.

Shavuot celebrates the first fruit of the wheat harvest, Pentecost celebrates the first fruit of the wine harvest. This is why they joked on Pentecost that "they were drunk on new wine".

There are two festivals not referenced in the OT that are referenced in the NT: Hanukkah and Pentecost. This makes sense if the Gentile Bride is different and has her own special days compared to the Jewish bride (typified by Leah and Rachel).

One other interesting thing, if the calendar switches when Jesus ascends to the throne then 50 days later at Pentecost will also be the 8th day. In other words Jesus ascension is a pivotal day in human history.
 

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Italy Panic:(May 24,2023)2nd eruption Etna volcano destroys city Catania,ashes buried city of Sicily

 

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Author Tim Cohen: Is King Charles III THE Antichrist OVER Multiple Antichrists?
 

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How to protest the wokeness

14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

This is the most powerful protest. Shake off the dust -- sell your house, resign your job, and move to another city/country. If all those truckers did that Canada would be on their knees. 500,000 people have left NYC since 2020, this will have a powerful impact.

11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”

The Lord tells you this twice to confirm the word. Disney is laying off 2,500, Twitter went under, CNN, and FOX saw their ratings crater, no one is drinking Budweiser, etc.

5 If people do not welcome you, leave their town and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”

The Lord tells you this three times to establish it.

When he arrived in Galilee, the Galileans welcomed him. They had seen all that he had done in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, for they also had been there.

Then when you get to the next city after seeing Canada on their knees these ones will welcome you and receive the gospel.
 

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Emergency clarification to bring UNITY not division.

 

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Emergency This Weekend 05/24/2023

 

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SO MUCH HAPPENING!!! HIGH WATCH NOW THROUGH PENTECOST MAY 28, 2023!!!
 

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Peter Declares That Jesus Is the Messiah

27 Jesus and his disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi. On the way he asked them, “Who do people say I am?” 28 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.” 29 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “You are the Messiah.” 30 Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about him.

Jesus Predicts His Death

31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.

This is one of the major focuses of the gospels, if not the major focus, to reveal God, the living word and the incarnated word to man. However, for many men it requires that Jesus suffer many things, be rejected, and killed before they will get this revelation.

32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. 33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. “Get behind me, Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

I think that this account here correlates very nicely with the 9th of AV, the day the spies gave the evil report. Two, Joshua and Caleb gave a good report, just like Peter with this revelation that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. The other ten gave an evil report, just like Peter rebuking Jesus for saying He would go to the cross. The cross was a horrible punishment reserved for those caught in insurrection. It is very understandable that Peter would be shocked to hear Jesus say He needed to go to be killed. But we need to dig down here. The Lord was going to defeat sin and death, He had the resurrection power. That is what it takes to defeat the corruption of the Pharisees, Herod and the talking heads. If you realize this then you would be at peace today. What can they do to you? Arrest you? Bring false charges of insurrection against you? Have a monkey trial? Kill you? Yes, they can do all that, but we have the one who on the third day can rise from the dead. So who cares. Yes, they slander you and falsely accuse you, but when you rise from the dead and God the Father declares that you are righteous, who cares what they think. The resurrection power is an awesome power.

The Way of the Cross

34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. 36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? 37 Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 38 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”


Right now many people are thinking how to “save their life”. Do I store up food? One brother talked about buying a gun to protect your family and for hunting. That is like being on a desert island and you have a choice, take the food rations that were left on the boat, or take this airplane that just happens to be there fueled up and ready to go. Now is not the time to become political, now is the time to speak the Lord’s words. We have salvation in the name of Jesus and in no other name is there salvation offered to man.
 

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Dana Coverstone Prayer topics

Prayer Topics:
  1. Chemtrails spread new virus
  2. Southern Invasion: No mercy
  3. Media Distracts
  4. Internal Revolution
  5. Church on Spiritual Fire!

“Let Me Show You Something”
Dana Coverstone, Dream, April 17th - May 16th

The dream began with me sitting on the top of a very tall tree, looking down on fog and mist covering Canada, America and Mexico. The fog was churning and staying in place over the US. It was moving specifically over both the northern and southern border.

CHEM TRAILS SPREADING NEW VIRUS:
The Man [Angel] appeared and said, “Let Me show you something.” He grabbed my hand, and we stepped out in the air. We walked through the fog and it tried to grab me with eerie arms. The Man led on until we reached the ground. “Look up,” He said. The fog was gone. I saw jets flying in all directions. It seemed to just be about dusk and the lights all over the country went out. I saw fast-moving jets spraying something out with their exhaust. The jets flying north and south in a crisscross pattern blanketing the entire country. I saw people going to work and school.

The scene changed: VIRUS
I was standing in Times Square. The jumbotron Television screens were breaking news of a major national outbreak of a new virus. It was late summer/early fall. It was infecting and killing people and reported as being twice as lethal as Covid. The WHO was laying out guidelines that must be followed regardless of constitutions or national laws. Military tanks and hummers started patrolling as the announcements were being made. I said to Him that the jets appeared to be the source of the medical issue. The Man nodded then said, “There is more to see,” and we suddenly appeared on the southern border.

INVASION FROM SOUTH: NO MERCY
I saw an enormous line of volcanoes spring up overnight. They stretched from the western point of CA to TX. They were very tall. The ground was shaking. The volcanoes erupted magma and lava. The entire border shook. The ground below them was torn. All sorts of people dressed like normal migrants began sprinting into the country as fast as they could run. They were taking an array of weapons out of their backpacks. The people on the American side were watching the eruptions and didn’t notice the people coming towards them. They pointed at the sky and made all sorts of faces and noises like they were watching fireworks. The runners were working together in coordination storming and shooting everything in the homes. They took nothing, but just killed all they found and sprinted on to the next house. They were moving with skill and military precision. They were brutal showing no mercy, killing all they found. Some carried samurai swords and beheaded many along the way.

MEDIA DISTRACTIONS:
Back at Times Square, the Jumbotron televisions were ignoring the southern invasion and discussing the spectacular eruptions on the southern border! People were not warned, they were coming out of their homes to watch. He encouraged anyone within 100 miles of the border to go outside as you could see the spectacular show.

I said to the man, “That newsman is trying to get people outside so that they will be killed.” The Man nodded His head and said, “There is more to see.”

CAPITOL: INTERNAL REVOLUTION
Suddenly we were standing outside the Capitol in Washington. I heard someone yelling into a bullhorn to take back the country. There were demonic screams coming out of humans. There was a fence surrounding the Capitol. Suddenly, the Police and Military threw ropes to the top of the fences and pulled the fences down. Just as suddenly, the doors of the Capitol pushed open and Congressmen and Congresswomen and Senators rushed the streets, stepping over the flattened fences. Using guns and clubs they began attacking and beating all citizens they saw. They left a bloody trail and pursued people until the people dropped from exhaustion. The people were beaten to death left lying in the streets. It was so horrific I said, “Why are our elected officials beating their own citizens?” He didn’t move His head at all but said, “There is more to see.”

The scene changed:
I was standing on the banks of a river early in the morning. There was fog and so quiet, I could hear frogs croaking. No noise at all. The man stood beside me quietly and pointed twice to His ear then pointed across the river. I walked to the edge and listened but heard nothing. I strained to hear muffled cries. The fog lifted and I saw a little country church at the end of a long gravel road. The windows were open, I heard saints crying out. There was a wisp of fire on the roof.

Instantly the Man and I were at the Church. The church was full of people crying out to God, repenting, calling out names of elected officials, praying that corruption would be exposed. They were praying in tongues, in English and in Spanish and they were praying with passion, and it was refreshing. There was a standing globe on a table near the pulpit and people had laid their hands upon it praying for the nations. I began to pray on the outside of the window and the Man said to go tell them I am pleased with their passion, but they must not stop.

He said, “Prayer is the most effective way to push back the darkness that is both here and coming.” He breathed toward me. I felt the wind go through me. It was a hot breeze. It went past me like a rushing mighty wind and set the entire church on spiritual fire. I turned but the Man was gone, and I heard these words, “I am with you Church, I am with you. And there is more to do.”
 

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DAN 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
14 Therefore hath the LORD watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the LORD our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice.
 

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2 Thess 2:1-8 -- The Rebellion comes first

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him,

These are two things, the Lord’s coming and our being gathered to Him, what we refer to as the rapture. It appears that the Lord comes secretly immediately before the rapture.

we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

Everyone should be very clear that a rebellion occurs first and the man of lawlessness is revealed before the day of the Lord -- the last seven years, the 70th week. I have posted wonderful links that prove from the Bible that the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are. Obama is the rider on the white horse, an alliance of North Korea, Iran, and Russia are the rider on the red horse, the famine that is upon us is the rider on the Black horse and King Charles is the rider on the pale green horse. I would say that I have been fully convinced that the evidence on this is overwhelming. When climate change activists broke the Ten Commandments on "Mt. Sinai" and instituted their own 10 commandments that is a good example of the lawlessness being revealed. The opening ceremony of the Commonwealth games is another powerful example, King Charles coronation is a third example. We are seeing lawlessness being revealed in the US and rebellion of the Biden administration against the US constitution and its laws.

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


We just shifted from past tense to future tense. Before the day comes the rebellion takes place and the man of lawlessness is revealed. That takes place before we are gathered to the Lord, i.e. raptured. But in the future, after the rapture, He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped. It does not say that he does this prior to the rapture. That is not how he is revealed. He is revealed because he is uniquely impudent and brazen, because he is a master of intrigue, because he destroys the mighty. He will oppose God, even setting himself up in the temple and proclaiming himself to be God. He doesn’t destroy the mighty with his own power, but he does take full credit for it. To exalt himself over everything that is called God includes the governmental authority we see in Esther, the rebellion of the angels we see with Noah and the fleshly lasciviousness we see with Sodom. To set himself up in God's temple is a direct reference to the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem where Antiochus sacrificed a pig, but it could also be this recent example of putting a pig's heart into a man, and it could also refer to the genetic vaccines they are giving people to change their DNA similar to what the angels did to create the Nephelim.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.

We know what is holding him back. We may not be “master’s of intrigue”, we may not know the deep things of Satan, but all Christians know Jesus Christ and the Spirit of God. This is what is holding him back. Think logically, if we know what is holding him back then we obviously observe this struggle and the Spirit holding him back prior to the rapture. Here we see three examples of Satan exalting himself against all that is called God and at the same time we see the end of the age in three stages. There will be a rebellion and rapture prior to the tribulation, then the Christians who remain will stand against the Mark of the Beast, and Finally the Jews will stand against the Antichrist in the temple in Jerusalem just like the story of the Maccabees standing against Antiochus Epiphany.

7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

We are the salt and the light. When we speak the word of God it restrains evil and holds it back. We must continue to do so right up until we are taken out of the way during the rapture. Many are referring to this as the "Red Sea" moment.

8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.

So if we are paying attention to current events what we are seeing is a rebellion. The allegations of voter fraud is based on a software company that is owned and operated by Diane Feinstein’s husband, and by Nancy Pelosi’s aid, and by Hillary Clinton’s foundation. The same company which demanded they get rid of Tucker Carlson. But it is much more widespread than that. Many Governors, mayors, and the Democratic party are involved. The scale and scope of this is truly amazing. Laws were passed all over the country, often while the election was taking place. Judges were used to institute these changes. Polls were used to manipulate the impression of the election while the mainstream media has done everything in their power to create a narrative of fate accomplished. Tech giants have censored all stories that might be contrary to their narrative. Google, Facebook and Twitter are clearly pushing this agenda. What we are witnessing is a rebellion with Jezebel at the epicenter, but her protege, the Antichrist, will destroy her. Isn't that great, they bite and devour one another. However, those who are fighting this battle are Christians. You can see them in prayer for the country. They aren’t fighting for Trump or Biden to win, but rather that the election be legitimate and not stolen. They are standing for the constitution to be upheld and honored. There are also thousands of people making signed affidavits. Again, they may not be a supporter of one candidate of the other, rather they are offended at the crime of stealing this election. It is interesting that thousands of dead people have voted. It is the Satanic version of the dead being raised to help support Jezebel and now these same dead that voted for her will also escort Jezebel back to hell with them. God is omnipotent, that means He can use anyone to accomplish His will. We will see the mighty hand of God as He executes judgement on Jezebel. However, it will be the antichrist who will take credit for it and that in turn will set the stage for further judgments on those who would not receive Jesus.