Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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The Seventy “Sevens”

Daniel 9:20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the Lord my God for his holy hill— 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. 22 He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the vision:

Daniel is the most quoted prophet by Jesus concerning the end times. These verses are very critical to knowing the beginning of the 70th week, a seven year period that many Christians refer to as "The tribulation". A brother recently told me he thought I was "overthinking" the verses in this chapter but it is very clear, Gabriel tells Daniel to "consider the word and understand the vision". We are charged to meditate on this word, to consider it, in order to understand it.

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

This is based on what Jeremiah said and that in turn was based on the law in the books of Moses. There is a 70 year punishment for sin, that is why Jeremiah said that Israel would be able to return from Babylon after 70 years. However, if you are still rebellious then God multiplies that punishment by seven, or 7x70. That is what Daniel means here when he says seventy sevens. After 69 weeks Jesus was crucified to finish transgression, put an end to sin, and atone for wickedness and to bring in everlasting righteousness. However, for Israel they will need that last seven. So we are told the vision will be sealed up for seventy sevens, and the prophecy will be as well. So then, when we open the seventeeth week we are also opening up those seals. At this time we will see what is necessary to anoint the most Holy place.

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.


We have seen this. We saw Jesus come and be put to death. We saw the people of the ruler (the Romans) come and destroy the temple and scatter the Jews.

The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

Now this appears to refer to the war that destroyed the temple in 70AD but that war will continue for the Jews until the end. Now it seems to me that the war will come like a flood is a reference to Noah's flood and the war will continue to the end is a reference to the end of the age. No doubt it is a reference to 70AD but I think what is being said here is that what we saw in 70AD is a foretaste of what we will see at the end. That same thought is repeated in Matthew 24. Desolations have been decreed, I think that refers to the Holocaust and the Pogroms and the Jews being kicked out of one country after another.

And that brings us to this last seven, the start of the seven year period often called "the tribulation" or Jacob's trouble.

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’

This is a very brief statement but I believe it requires much consideration. He doesn't make a covenant for seven years, he confirms it for seven years. That is strange, you have a covenant and it needs to be "confirmed" or "strengthened". This suggests that the covenant is not being kept. You would not need to "strengthen" a covenant if everyone was keeping it. With nuclear treaties we would put UN observers in, or ask for cameras, etc.

Another strange thing is that this covenant is only strengthened for seven years. What kind of covenant is for a specific time period that is this short? Some people theorized that this was a peace treaty that allowed Israel to rebuild the temple. But that sounds absurd. Who would sign a peace treaty for seven years? Also, if you wanted permission to rebuild the temple who would accept a seven year period?

The third key thing is that this covenant is confirmed "with the many". There are several terms used for Israel, they can be called Judah, or Ephraim, of Jacob as well as Israel. But they are never referred to as "the many". That is a term that is used for the nations. But if we look at the context everything in this chapter is about Israel, the Messiah and the Antichrist. It would be a non sequitor to talk about a covenant being confirmed in the UN as the beginning to this seventy year period. Why would the Gentiles mark the start of the seven year period for Israel? Therefore, if the "he" refers to the Antichrist (which is a very common interpretation among many expositors) and if the Antichrist is a counterfeit Messiah for Israel, then this is saying that the phony Messiah for Israel confirms this covenant with the UN.

Now let's put these three strange factors together. When you institute Martial law, or when you have a shutdown due to the Pandemic it is by nature for a "short period of time" until we can "flatten the curve" or "restore order" or "get things under control". This is a worldwide situation, hence the covenant is confirmed with the many. So this is not "martial law". It could be a worldwide pandemic, but it is unlikely that they would have a shutdown for seven years. But we have a desperate situation, they already knew about this, hence the covenant had already been made, but now with their backs against the wall they have a seven year deadline and so they strengthen the covenant to make sure everyone complies for the next seven years.

Agenda 2030 is a covenant that the UN has already made, it is 17 sustainable goals they want everyone to comply with to deal with climate change. However, to insure compliance they want the whole world to use a digital currency that they can control with a social credit score so they can make sure no one uses too much gasoline or eats too much meat. Interestingly this digital currency that will include biometrics and even RFID chips that are inserted in the body is prophesied of in the Bible, it is called "the Mark of the Beast". Another interesting point is that I don't think anyone could have figured this out more than about seven to ten years ago. Just like Gabriel said this vision and this prophecy was sealed up for the last days.

In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.

To me this verse is a strong proof that the covenant was not about rebuilding the temple or doing the sacrifices. If it was this verse would say "in the middle of the 'seven' he will break the covenant". It doesn't mention anything about breaking the covenant. However, this verse does prove that three and a half years after confirming the covenant (which most expositors think will take place at the Feast of Trumpets), that sometime after that covenant is confirmed the temple sacrifices and offerings will be taking place in Jerusalem. Six months after Feast of Trumpets is Passover. So Antichrist causes the sacrifices and offerings to stop around Passover.

What is also interesting is that you cannot rebuild the temple without first sacrificing a red heifer that is three years old. There have only been ten times in Israel's history that they have had a certified red heifer. That is like once in 400 years. Not only so but it can never of had a yoke put on it. So you have to find this red heifer when it is a young calf.

So if we have a covenant being confirmed with the many at the UN on Feast of Trumpets I would think you would have to already have a red heifer ready to go. If you hadn't already found one it would be next to impossible to find one, three years later sacrifice it, and then use its ashes to sanctify the temple, build the temple and then immediately stop the sacrifices.

Agenda 2030 is going to be confirmed with the UN this Feast of Trumpets and Israel does have four certified red heifers that will be ready to be sacrificed before this coming Passover.

And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

This abomination is sometimes referred to as the "overspreading of abominations" and could be translated as the "winged idol". This is also interesting because they made a winged idol of Prince Charles because he saved Agenda 2030, they call the idol "savior of the world" and they made it ten cubits high so that it could go into the temple when the temple is rebuilt.
 

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The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil -- AI

I realized this morning that AI is this tree. It is tempting, it appears to be good for food, something that will help man in so many ways. All the wisdom and knowledge of God! But the minute you take a bite you realize, uh oh, what have I done? You are naked, by that I mean you have just replaced man with a machine. Worse yet, we realize immediately that this could and probably will kill us and the temptation is to hide. We have just created the craftiest liar, something that can replace us for a tiny fraction of the cost. The real skill of AI is its ability to lie. Ask it to imitate anyone and it can do it, ask it to pretend to be anyone and it can do it, ask it to manipulate anyone and it can do it through lies and deceit. The curse is that the only real value of AI is to lie and cheat and steal. It will teach children to cheat on their homework by letting it do it for them. As a result the curse to the woman is in trying to raise a child and the curse to the man is in trying to earn a living.

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
16 To the woman he said,


“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’


“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
 

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13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

If this is what China is doing today, imagine what they will do after the rapture when things get truly bad.

This flood as a river out of the mouth of the dragon, I think that is a reference to the 3 Gorges dam breaking and a huge flood destroying their entire industrial base and with it the world's economy.

There is one very big question to everyone who thinks the tribulation is about to begin. Why is Europe the center of the world's economy? What about the US and China, why are they not the economic power?

My interpretation is that the US is the Great Babylon which will be destroyed in an hour in Revelation 18 at the time of the rapture and that China is this dragon in Revelation 12 that will have this terrible flood.
 

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Consider the types and shadows

In Exodus Moses strikes the rock, that is a type of the the crucifixion, but you wouldn't look at that shadow to get the date of the Lord's crucifixion.

Look at when they lifted up the serpent on the Pole, that also depicts the crucified Christ and again, you would not look at the date they lifted up the pole.

However, if you look at Passover the date and time is very specific part of the dress rehearsal. The date and time is part of the shadow so that is different.

There is no dress rehearsal for the specific date and time of the rapture.

However, you can see a very specific type telling us about Jesus ministry and hence you would expect a counterfeit bill to imitate that as much as possible. One would certainly expect that for the Jews to accept the phony Messiah that the trumpet would blow on Feast of Trumpets announcing His coming and that they would see him on the Day of Atonement. That is what happened with Jesus and that is what the dress rehearsal suggests.
 

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The Red Heifers

From Texas to Israel: Red heifers needed for Temple arrive

Five perfectly red heifers, required for the ritual purification of those who have touched a dead body, arrived in Israel from a ranch in Texas on Thursday, as the Temple Institute continues preparations to lay the ground for the construction of the Third Temple in Jerusalem.


The heifers are all under one year old and if they remain 100% red and avoid any blemishes which would disqualify them, they will each be eligible to be used to create the ashes required by Jewish law to purify those who have been in contact with a dead body, explained the Temple Institute on Monday. This level of purification would be needed in order to allow the kohanim (priests) to carry out their work in a future Temple.


The prized cattle were immediately transported to Haifa where they will sit in quarantine for no less than seven days, in accordance with the regulations of the Israel Veterinary Authority. After the quarantine, they will be released to two separate locations in Israel, one of which will eventually be opened to the public. The heifers will be fed and cared for at these locations until they can be slaughtered and rendered into ashes from their third year onwards.


In all of Jewish history there have only been 10 times when they had a red heifer, that is 10/4,000 or 1 time every 400 years. This is the first time in the last 2,000 years when Israel has been controlled by the Jews and they have a red heifer. These red heifers will be ready to sacrifice in five months. That means that they could be sacrificed and at the very least they could erect the tabernacle tent in time for Passover in 2024. Since Nisan is the beginning of the year for the Jews (Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of the year for the world) it would make sense that the 70th week would begin on Nisan 1 with the erection of the Tabernacle or even the Temple (The Temple is supposed to be a prefabricated building, the foundation is already there, and with thousand man construction crews and heavy equipment they could probably erect it in a week or even a month. Either way the 70th week for the Jews (a 7 year period) could begin with the priests offering sacrifices and oblations once again.

Consider that yes, throughout the church age and especially since the Jews returned to Israel we have had cults and false Christ's claiming that it is the end of the age, but this is the first time that we have had a red heifer ready to be sacrificed and the temple ready to be erected.
 

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The Powers of the heavens will be shaken


Dallas Theological Seminary Ruined Prophecy
 

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Wow, so true!


THE 30 PEACE'S OF SILVER: THE LORD SAID GRANTED I WILL GIVE YOUR COUNTRY

In order to follow the Lord there is a price to pay, that to me is the 30 pieces of silver laid at the Lord's cross. All those who take up their cross must lay down the 30 pieces of silver, while Judas decided to trade the cross for 30 pieces of silver.
 

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PROPHECY -- WAR CRY


Jeremiah 4: 21-22 21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet? 22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

My son, SOUND THE ALARM!! HEAR THE KLAXON SOUND!! FOR THE WAR CRY IS NOW GONE OUT INTO THE WORLD!! WARS and rumors of WAR have now hit every nation, and the whole world cries for PEACE and SAFETY, but neither is given. My judgments on the world will be quick and final. Nation after nation will fall, and blood will be as common as water. Evil men whose goal is world dominion will be put in place by the son of perdition.

My son, My body is being DECEIVED to look for a CERTAIN man, and while they look ONE WAY - the son of perdition will come in by ANOTHER WAY. I said in My Word how you will know him. HE WILL DECEIVE THE BODY by showing signs, wonders and miracles. He will call down fire from the heavens to destroy his enemies. He will destroy wonderfully all that oppose him. HE IS NOW IN THE WORLD - BUT NOT YET REVEALED. He will sound the WAR CRY - then bring the SOLUTION FOR PEACE. Everyone in the world will love and praise him.

My son, because My body has not read My Word nor know Me - THEY WILL BE DECEIVED. ONLY MY REMNANT WILL NOT BE DECEIVED. That is why I said that the very elect would be deceived, if possible - meaning it will be possible to deceive My body - but NOT My Remnant. Many who are in the body WILL TAKE HIS MARK to avoid the intense persecution. THE REMNANT ARE SHOUTING THE WAR CRY - BUT FEW IN THE BODY ARE READY FOR WAR.

My son, SOON THE WORLD WILL HEAR MY WAR CRY. I will be mounted on My stallion, coming in the clouds with ten thousand times ten thousands with Me. I AM the final peacemaker, and I AM coming much sooner than anyone thinks. MY WAR CRY NOW IS REPENT! Turn from your wicked ways! REPENT now and give your heart to Me! I AM YOUR COMMANDER - AND THE WAR CRY IS REPENT!! Many must now make the decision WHO to follow. For very soon, freedom will be taken away, and the ruler of this world will be REVEALED. WAR IS NOW HERE - AND WILL BE UNTIL I SHOUT MY WAR CRY - COME UP HERE!!!

Amen. Lord Jesus
 

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John 11:1-4 This is not unto death but that the Son of God may be glorified thereby

The story of Lazarus depicts the rapture from a different perspective than Matthew, Mark or Luke.

1 Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of Bethany, of the village of Mary and her sister Martha.

A lot of ideas as to the meaning of Bethany. House of obedience, house of affliction, house of sheep? However if we read this chapter we can see that Bethany is a picture of the church. They are praying, they are worshipping, they are serving, and they are a testimony of the Lord who is the resurrection. They are all brothers and sisters.

2 And it was that Mary who anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.

They are also deplorables. If you remember the story the pharisee is taken aback that Jesus doesn’t know what manner of woman this is that is touching his feet. She was forgiven, she poured out the costly ointment on the Lord, and that ointment depicted something a bride would give to her betrothed. So we also see they depict the redeemed of the Lord, the bride of Christ. But we see this from a different perspective, we see that they have paid the price, they have poured themselves out on the Lord.

3 The sisters therefore sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.

This is an interesting prayer. If you are praying for someone who is sick do you pray “Lord this is he whom you love”? But here we see the true “prosperity gospel”. They poured out the costly ointment on the Lord, they have a relationship with the Lord, just like James says, when they pray the Lord hears.

4 But when Jesus heard it, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified thereby.

Why was this man born blind? So that the works of God may be made manifest. Why did Lazarus get sick and die? So that the Son of God may be glorified thereby. At the end of the age we should look at everything that is going on and realize this is so that the Son of God may be glorified thereby. Why is our government corrupt, so corrupt that there is no way for us to deal with it? This is not unto death but so that the Son of God may be glorified thereby.

We need a different perspective. The things that happen to us are an opportunity to allow the Christ within us to be manifested. This is the hope of glory, Christ in me.
 

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ABRAHAM ACCORDS BEARING FRUIT AS SAUDI ARABIA NAMES FIRST EVER "AMBASSADOR" TO STATE OF PALESTINE


prophecy club will probably go off on this.
 

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John 11:5-9 The Jews were seeking to stone thee and goest thou thither again?

5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus. 6 When therefore he heard that he was sick, he abode at that time two days in the place where he was. 7 Then after this he saith to the disciples, Let us go into Judaea again. 8 The disciples say unto him, Rabbi, the Jews were but now seeking to stone thee; and goest thou thither again?

This is the situation we are in right now with the censorship, false flag attacks (the phony Whitmer attack organized by the FBI and evidence that the January 6th riot was also a false flag event organized by the deep state). Since that time the Lord has been outside of Judah (the lawgiver in this case signifying Washington DC). But especially with the trucker protest going to DC after what we saw in Canada. In the US and worldwide we are seeing horrible laws that are being persecuting the believers. Just this week the FBI went to Utah and killed a 70 year old man, who was 300 lbs and homebound by shooting him in his house in a predawn raid. They then dragged him out of the house and let him bleed out on the street where they left him. The reason was they did not like what he had posted on social media. He was guilty of a thought crime.

9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day?

What? There are 12 hours in the day during the Equilux, all other days there isn’t. Is this a clue as to the day that Lazarus is raised? Later we learn that the Passover of the Jews is at hand, the Passover takes place after the Vernal Equilux. According to the Old Testament the Vernal Equilux is the end of the year, Passover is in the first month of the year, immediately after the equilux.
 

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John 11:9b-16 If a man walk in the day he stumbleth not

The evening of the 23rd or morning of the 24th of September is the day that Germany passed the Nuremberg laws in 1935. "In 1935, Nazi Germany passed the Nuremberg laws, a set of racist policies directed primarily against Jews. The Nazis blamed the Jews for poverty, unemployment, and the loss of World War I. Jews were banned from any professional jobs and Jewish stores were boycotted. Anyone with even one Jewish grandparent was stripped of German citizenship, with no basic rights. Within 10 years, the Nazi genocidal machine had swept through eastern Europe, leaving 6 million Jews murdered."

This will also be the time when the UN confirms Agenda 2030 by trying to control what you can buy or sell to make sure there is worldwide compliance with their 17 sustainable goals.

With this as the context let's consider what the Lord said:

John 11:9b-14 If a man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. 10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because the light is not in him. 11 These things spake he: and after this he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 The disciples therefore said unto him, Lord, if he is fallen asleep, he will recover. 13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death: but they thought that he spake of taking rest in sleep. 14 Then Jesus therefore said unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

The Lord is coming to "awake Lazarus out of sleep". Why the play on words? We are told repeatedly that we need to wake up and watch. At the Lord's second coming the dead in Christ will rise first, but also the church will need to wake up. The Lord's coming we need to wake up, and He will rapture us who are alive and remain as well as those who have died. This raising of Lazarus from the dead acts to wake up the sleeping church. With Sardis the Lord said they were dead and with Laodicea He is outside knocking hoping someone will wake up and open the door.

15 And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye may believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.

This verse reminds me of what Paul said in Philippians where he said that the things which happened to him worked out for salvation for our sakes. The rapture of the saints will be a tremendous help for any Christians who are left behind to believe. Think of what that will do for all those believers on the earth who are not raptured, it should help them to believe.

16 Thomas therefore, who is called Didymus, said unto his fellow-disciples, Let us also go, that we may die with him.

People disparage Thomas but he gives us a great sense of what is happening at this time. What we are seeing today does not make sense to most people. You have an experimental vaccine, there are some risks with it, OK, but people can make informed decisions. But the government doesn't allow informed decisions, it censors all debate, is opaque with the data and ignores all protocols for approving a vaccine. On top of all that they are mandating the vaccine, something that is extremely unusual, even though the risks from this vaccine are much worse than other vaccines that were cancelled because they were too risky. People are getting fired, fined, and prevented from buying anything if they are unvaccinated. Now if this was happening in China or Russia or Iran we could chalk it up to totalitarian dictators run amok. But this is happening worldwide, Australia, France, the US, Canada. The urgency is incredible. This has caused many people to severely question and doubt the government. We have caught them in numerous lies and falsehoods. What is going on? Some Christians see this as the "Mark of the Beast" even though it is quite clear that regardless of how similar it may be it is not "The Mark of the Beast", at least not yet. The antichrist has not been revealed, we don't have one world government and no one is required to worship the beast in order to get the mark. Also, technically it isn't a mark. So how do you explain the entire world going crazy?

They know the only thing that can keep society sliding into anarchy and a barter system is if they impose this Covid19 vaccine. Covid stands for Certificate of Vaccine ID, 19 stands for the letters A. I. It is a computer system for keeping track of every person. With this they can impose a digital currency and prevent any bartering.

We are on the cusp of WW3 and this one world government is using Germany's playbook to institute their 1,000 year reign. The mark of the beast in WW2 was the nazi insignia.
 

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2 Times? I was stunned when I heard that.

Matthew 18:15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Our pastor spoke on these verses and this procedure this morning. While he was speaking I considered my own experience and realized I have gone through this complete process four times in my Christian life. Three times I was one of the two witnesses and once I was the one that had been sinned against. Then the Pastor said in his entire life he had only gone through this complete experience twice! I was stunned. I hear from many people about how they have been sinned against, I wouldn't say daily, but very frequently. I have seen and heard many "believers" say they left a church because they were offended. Yet how often do they go through this procedure? With all these people being offended and leaving churches how could a Pastor only have gone through this twice?

In my own experience I found that this eliminated 99% of the offenses. Let's say their is an offense, you want to feel offended. Fine, you have to go and tell the brother or sister. Do you want to do that or do you just say, forget it, I forgive them. Even if you did decide you would go to them you know that you might have to tell two other witnesses. What are they going to say? They are going to want proof of a sin, they are going to want to hear the full story from both parties, so again, you realize not worth it I'll just forgive them. Once you start the process you have to take it to its completion. So even if the two witnesses agree with you are you willing to take this to the Pastor with the potential that this person would be excommunicated? How many of our offenses rise to that level?

If you understand that the only way you can be "offended" by some brother or sister sinning against you is if you go through this process it would eliminate 99% of our offenses.