Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Behold the deceit, part 2

Then today we learn that Saudi Arabia will have a peace treaty for Israel at this same event in which they trade land for peace with Israel, but with the peace treaty Israel will be able to rebuild their temple.

Everything is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and I don't believe they don't know that. I think the reason they have gone to extraordinary lengths to hide this is because they know that Christians who know the Bible will know this immediately.

There must be a million Christians who have been looking for the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27, a million that are familiar with "when they say peace and security sudden destruction comes" and a million who know that Israel rebuilding their temple is a major sign, like a fire alarm going off, telling you that we are in the tribulation. These Christians know about the mark of the beast so this is not explicitly told, the 17th goal talks about strengthening the covenant but it is vague what they mean exactly. You have to put a number of puzzle pieces together to realize they are talking about the mark of the beast. Likewise with the peace treaty, they wait till the last minute to put it on the agenda and then they are vague about what the peace treaty entails. Again, you must put a variety of puzzle pieces together to understand that they want Israel to give up land to the Palestinians and why would Israel do that? What are they getting? From that we infer that a peace treaty must include rebuilding the temple.

Now we know that this too is deceitful as the Antichrist will set himself up in the temple in the middle of the seven years.
 

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Two Traditional teachings that are not Biblically solid

1. We don't know who the Antichrist is until after the rapture.

The key rule in all Biblical exposition is that no verse is of its own interpretation.

We have verses in Daniel and in just about every NT book concerning the Antichrist. Some verses are more generic, covering false prophets and false messiah's, some are specifically about "the antichrist", but all of them help us to identify the Antichrist.

This doctrine is based on a single verse in Thessalonians despite so many other verses telling us so many things about the Antichrist it is hard to believe we couldn't identify him.

But what does the verse say? It says once the restrainer steps aside the man of lawlessness will be revealed.

Does the NT reveal to us what lawlessness is? Aren't we told to mark those that practice these things and avoid them? Paul didn't say "the Holy Spirit" steps aside, or "the Spirit filled believers are raptured". No, he said "the restrainer steps aside". What or who are they restraining? Isn't it lawlessness and the man of lawlessness? Doesn't that mean they can identify him if they are restraining him?

This verse that they hang their hat on says that the Antichrist will be revealed to the world after the rapture. It never says the raptured saints cannot know who he is, only that once the raptured saints are gone he no longer hides but comes out into the open.

2. The seven seals are opened after the rapture

There is no Biblical basis to say this. The second key principal is that you do not base a doctrine on an inferential teaching or a typology. A typology is too easy to manipulate into meaning almost anything. You need to begin with the black and white doctrinal teaching and then you can use typology to color in the background.

This doctrine is based on Revelation 4:1 John heard a voice saying come up here. They equate that with the rapture. However, this portion clearly states that it was the lamb having just been slain that opened the scroll. This was past tense at the time of Revelation. The black and white doctrine of this scroll is in Ephesians, the mystery hidden from the ages. We can prove this because all seven seals have already been opened. If something is sealed up you don't know what is in it, you can't peer in. But we do know what is in the seven seals, we can peer in. For example if the seal that reveals the antichrist is not opened yet then how come we know the number of his name?

Yes, John being called up is a rapture, but that took place when the graves were opened at the time Jesus was resurrected. Yes the 24 elders are men, but they were the ones raptured with Jesus.

This isn't trivial. If the seals are already opened then it is absurd that you would say we can't know who the Antichrist is. So one bad teaching supports another bad teaching. Soon we are Sergeant Schultz "I know nothing".

Beware of the traditional teachings of the Pharisees. It is leaven that leavens the whole loaf.
 

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Two Traditional teachings that are not Biblically solid

1. We don't know who the Antichrist is until after the rapture.

The key rule in all Biblical exposition is that no verse is of its own interpretation.

We have verses in Daniel and in just about every NT book concerning the Antichrist. Some verses are more generic, covering false prophets and false messiah's, some are specifically about "the antichrist", but all of them help us to identify the Antichrist.

This doctrine is based on a single verse in Thessalonians despite so many other verses telling us so many things about the Antichrist it is hard to believe we couldn't identify him.

But what does the verse say? It says once the restrainer steps aside the man of lawlessness will be revealed.

Does the NT reveal to us what lawlessness is? Aren't we told to mark those that practice these things and avoid them? Paul didn't say "the Holy Spirit" steps aside, or "the Spirit filled believers are raptured". No, he said "the restrainer steps aside". What or who are they restraining? Isn't it lawlessness and the man of lawlessness? Doesn't that mean they can identify him if they are restraining him?

This verse that they hang their hat on says that the Antichrist will be revealed to the world after the rapture. It never says the raptured saints cannot know who he is, only that once the raptured saints are gone he no longer hides but comes out into the open.

2. The seven seals are opened after the rapture

There is no Biblical basis to say this. The second key principal is that you do not base a doctrine on an inferential teaching or a typology. A typology is too easy to manipulate into meaning almost anything. You need to begin with the black and white doctrinal teaching and then you can use typology to color in the background.

This doctrine is based on Revelation 4:1 John heard a voice saying come up here. They equate that with the rapture. However, this portion clearly states that it was the lamb having just been slain that opened the scroll. This was past tense at the time of Revelation. The black and white doctrine of this scroll is in Ephesians, the mystery hidden from the ages. We can prove this because all seven seals have already been opened. If something is sealed up you don't know what is in it, you can't peer in. But we do know what is in the seven seals, we can peer in. For example if the seal that reveals the antichrist is not opened yet then how come we know the number of his name?

Yes, John being called up is a rapture, but that took place when the graves were opened at the time Jesus was resurrected. Yes the 24 elders are men, but they were the ones raptured with Jesus.

This isn't trivial. If the seals are already opened then it is absurd that you would say we can't know who the Antichrist is. So one bad teaching supports another bad teaching. Soon we are Sergeant Schultz "I know nothing".

Beware of the traditional teachings of the Pharisees. It is leaven that leavens the whole loaf.
Now consider this, the debate over pre trib and mid trib is all about the sixth seal. Those who are against a "pre trib" rapture say that we must all go through tribulation. This is due to the erroneous understanding that the seals don't get opened until the start of the seven year tribulation. If you understood that the seals were opened after Jesus resurrected then no one would say this. Besides it doesn't make any sense, why would the dead in Christ get raptured, they never went through the seven year tribulation?
 

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Recognizing a man of lawlessness

A traditional doctrine is that we cannot identify the man of lawlessness until after the rapture. If that were true then what is Paul talking about here:

2Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

We can identify all defilement of flesh and spirit and we can cleanse ourselves of these. If believers did this there would be no way for "the man of lawlessness" to hide from them.

2 Open your hearts to us: we wronged no man, we corrupted no man, we took advantage of no man.

What do you think lawlessness is? You wrong others, you corrupt others and you take advantage of others. Sinners think this is funny, they think it is wisdom. When you get saved and your conscience is activated you see this as sin and want to cleanse yourself from this.
 

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Couple of logical questions

(I read someone who "debunked" the rapture logically, saying that all Christians must go through tribulation and it is very clear that there are Christians in the tribulation who are beheaded by the Antichrist. So I responded with these logical questions.)

1. So then if you need to be beheaded does this mean the dead in Christ that after they are raised from the dead they must be beheaded? This sounds more like Islam than the New Testament.

2. Christians must go through tribulation. Are you saying the the Christian martyrs over the last two thousand years did not go through tribulation? What about Paul and all the apostles? If they have been going through tribulation for the entire church age then your argument makes no sense.

3. Where in the Bible does it say Christians must go through the 3 1/2 year tribulation at the end of the age to get raptured?

4. I agree that there will be Christians during the 3 1/2 year tribulation who do get beheaded. Logically, that means that not every Christian gets raptured at the beginning of that time period. We have many examples of this, 10 spies gave an evil report and never entered the good land, 2 gave a good report and did enter the good land. Jesus told Sardis that if they didn't repent He would come as a thief and they would be caught by surprise, He told Philadelphia that because they were faithful they would be kept out of the hour of trial. Why isn't this (some Christians are raptured, many aren't) a logical conclusion?

5. Revelation says that Christians will be given into the hand of the Antichrist and he will overcome them. But Paul says

Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors and gain an overwhelming victory through Him who loved us [so much that He died for us].

So why isn't it a logical conclusion that these Christians are deficient in faith? For example, in NYC if you fail the year end Regents exam you can go to summer school and then take it again in August. Why aren't these Christians like those who failed the exam the first time and get to take a second time?
 

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The Stars were given to us as signs, they proclaim the glory of God.

Genesis 1:14 Then God said, “Let there be light-bearers (sun, moon, stars) in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be useful for signs (tokens) [of God’s provident care]

Psalms 19:1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And the expanse [of heaven] is declaring the work of His hands. 2 Day after day pours forth speech, And night after night reveals knowledge. 3 There is no speech, nor are there [spoken] words [from the stars];
Their voice is not heard. 4 Yet their voice [in quiet evidence] has gone out through all the earth, Their words to the end of the world.

Everyone should be looking at the sign that is in the heavens this week for Feast of Trumpets.


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Summary of what is happening this Feast of Trumpets

I have been fully plugged into the “watchmen” community, Christians who are looking at the signs of the Lord’s coming and they are going wild right now so I figured I’d clue you in so if you hear about some of this you will not be caught by surprise.

Daniel 9:27 tells us that the Antichrist will confirm a covenant with the many for one Shemitah, one period of 7 years.

This word “confirm” does not mean “make” it means “to strengthen”.

On Monday and Tuesday of this coming week at the UN they are going to confirm and strengthen Agenda 2030, a covenant all the nations signed in 2015. That by itself would be interesting.

However, this takes place at the same time as the Feast of Trumpets, a Jewish feast announcing the coming of the Lord, and according to Daniel this seven year period begins with this event and ends with the Day of Atonement (which is ten days after the Feast of Trumpets). So the fact that this is happening the same day that Daniel said it would happen makes this a little more special.

But one wonders how often do all the nations confirm a covenant for seven years? We had thought that this would be a peace treaty but who makes a peace treaty that expires in seven years? We had a shut down of the economy for a few weeks until they could flatten the curve with the Pandemic, they impose Martial law temporarily until they can get an election. It is hard for me to think of any time the UN has “strengthened” a covenant for seven years.

Still the consensus among many eschatologists is that whatever this is that happens it also enables Israel to rebuild the temple. (Obviously you would not give them a 7 year permission, who would build a magnificent temple for only 7 years?).

So you can imagine how excited everyone got yesterday when Saudi Arabia announced they were brokering a peace deal for Israel at the same time.

Now before anyone gets too excited, we do know from Revelation that Israel will have the temple (or tabernacle) up and sacrifices being offered during this seven year period, and they cannot do this unless they have a certified Red Heifer that has not ever been used under the yoke and it cannot be more than 3 years old. These are exceedingly rare, the last one Israel had was several thousand years ago. But, it just so happens Israel does have five Red Heifers that have been certified, they arrived last year at the Feast of Trumpets and they plan to sacrifice one this coming Passover.

Again, a mistake many have made over the last few decades is seeing one sign fulfilled and assuming that this must be the start of the seven years called the tribulation. Before that can happen there must be a worldwide pandemic that shuts down the economy. It will be strange, like a bunch of different bugs all spliced together. This is prophesied in Joel.

No doubt some will talk about Pandemic we had, that would mean that either 2020 or 2021 was the Feast of Trumpets which takes place 10 days (ten years) before the Day of Judgment. So if you look at the Feast of Trumpets in 2020 you can see worldwide shutdowns of the economy and Ruth Bader Ginsburg died changing the balance of the court so that Roe v. Wade could be overturned. In 2021 you saw illegal mandates of the vaccine. The Feast of Trumpets is a two day event called “the longest day” or “the hidden day” and it kicks off the blowing of trumpets which I suppose you could liken to all these “watchmen” with their channels blowing their horns.

Still, if all this is the start of the tribulation you need everything in place to have the mark of the beast. That would require a global communications network like Starlink that Elon Musk is using. You also need quantum computers able to handle hundreds of millions of transactions a day, you would need AI intelligence to supervise it, you would need digital chips that can be inserted under the skin, and you would need a digital currency. Interestingly, that is how they plan on “strengthening” Agenda 2030. They are saying the only way to insure total compliance is by controlling what people can buy or sell. The good thing is this will only be temporary, for the next seven years. Kind of like telling a cow he needs to go into the stockyards in Chicago, but it will only be temporary.

OK, but even if all this is true Jesus told us there would be wars and rumors of war. Which brings up an interesting point, we have had a prophecy a few months ago that when all eyes are on China trying to seize Taiwan that is when their will be a surprise attack on the US. Another prophecy said this will be after a hurricane hits California (which hardly ever happens though it did happen just a few days ago).

However, there is one other thing that you have to have. The Bible says clearly that because people loved lies and to make lies God would give them a great deception to explain away the rapture. We believe this great deception will be saying that the rapture was an alien invasion and all the people were taken by aliens. Which can explain movies like ET and all the other movies about aliens. Still they would have to set the stage saying that Aliens were real before the event otherwise no one would believe it. Of course we have had a number of government hearings saying that so I suppose that could be what we were looking for.

But there is one last prophecy that would have to be fulfilled. Ten kings rising out of the nations. They hate the great whore, the city who rules over the kings of the earth. Right now the US dollar rules over the kings of the earth and if you look on our money you will see at least three buildings in Washington DC. so King dollar does depict a great city that rules over the kings of the earth. Yes BRICS is trying to replace it and this could be the ten kings the Bible is talking about. It is not completely clear, the Bible says “ten horns and seven heads”. The UAE is composed of seven heads (the emirates) and they have ten nations which would be ten horns. So who knows, maybe that is what the Bible is talking about.

However, one might think that this is not fair, we should have been warned. Interestingly there were two cows with sevens on their heads born on the Feast of Trumpets in 2014. This was seen as a warning that beginning in 2015 you would have seven years of plenty and then beginning in 2023 you would have seven years of famine. If you want to know the details you can look up Jonathan Cahn. He also wrote a book about how 911 was a harbinger warning us of what was to come. He also has written a book explaining how you can precisely and to the day tie the Pandemic to abortion in America as a judgment from God. You can read that as well.

In addition there is an amazing sign in the heavens right now, I would liken it to the star of David that the wise men saw when Jesus was born. If I told you about it you wouldn’t believe it, which interestingly is what Habakkuk says. God is working a sign that even if it were told you you would not believe. Instead I would reference you to rapture@hourlywatch, he has a youtube channel, and see his Revelation 12 Sign Breakdown video. That video gives a very good overview, however, since making that video much more has been discovered so you can watch a number of other videos as well on the sign.

There is more than this, but I think this gives a good summary of why many believers are so excited about the next ten days.
 

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Just a thought

When Jesus answered the question about when He was coming back saying "no one knows the day or the hour" it is perfectly reasonable and logical for us to interpret that as meaning it could be any time and no preacher, or prophet or Bible expositor knows.

But would that have been a logical conclusion for the disciples that Jesus was talking to?

1. They knew they had a holiday that had that name.

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2. They knew God does things with the appointed times.

Jesus conception, birth, circumcision, crucifixion, death, burial, resurrection and ascension all took place on appointed times, do we really think His return will not also start on an appointed time?

3. They knew Daniel's prophecy about the 70th week.

A week referred to a seven year period. It is perfectly logical to assume this 7 year period begins on the first day of the year. However, the Jews have four "first days" of the year, so which one? Only one of those days is called "no one knows the day or the hour", so by answering this question Jesus told them which of those four days it would be.

But then to make this claim that no one knows even stronger Jesus also said "no one knows, only my Father in heaven". Again, very logical for us to see that this verse supports the doctrine of imminence, but would the disciples see it that way?

This expression that "no one knows the day but my Father" is a reference to a man getting married. The Lord is giving them a clue that this return is for a wedding. According to Jewish calendar there are two very auspicious days for a wedding. The first is the Day of Atonement and the second is the 15th of Av. The 15th of Av is for those who were left in the wilderness and can refer to those who go through the tribulation.

So then from the Disciples point of view Jesus gave them two days: The Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement. These days are ten days apart. If we understand these ten days as ten years, called "Jacob's trouble" and that seven days (seven years) prior to the Day of Atonement the priest changes into a linen garment and goes to the Temple chamber to be guarded for those seven days (seven years), a type and shadow of the rapture, then the Lord was being very specific in His answer. The 70th week begins on the Feast of Trumpets and seven years later the wedding takes place on the Day of Atonement.

In the wedding ceremony the groom takes the bride to his house for a week long celebration culminating in the wedding.

Noah entered the ark seven days before the flood.

Priest enters the temple chamber seven days before the Day of Atonement.

This would also mean that the Feast of Trumpets was during the Pandemic, the longest day, in 2020 we had the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and shutdowns due to the pandemic all over the world. In 2021 we had illegal vaccine mandates, tyranny raising its head, with a multitude of lies. By that time every witness should have been clear that we could see the new moon on this very dark age. We are now at the end of the third year from that, this Feast of Trumpets will be the beginning of the 4th day which is seven days prior to the day of Atonement and time for the priest to be taken to the Temple chamber.
 

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Just a thought

When Jesus answered the question about when He was coming back saying "no one knows the day or the hour" it is perfectly reasonable and logical for us to interpret that as meaning it could be any time and no preacher, or prophet or Bible expositor knows.

But would that have been a logical conclusion for the disciples that Jesus was talking to?

1. They knew they had a holiday that had that name.

and

2. They knew God does things with the appointed times.

Jesus conception, birth, circumcision, crucifixion, death, burial, resurrection and ascension all took place on appointed times, do we really think His return will not also start on an appointed time?

3. They knew Daniel's prophecy about the 70th week.

A week referred to a seven year period. It is perfectly logical to assume this 7 year period begins on the first day of the year. However, the Jews have four "first days" of the year, so which one? Only one of those days is called "no one knows the day or the hour", so by answering this question Jesus told them which of those four days it would be.

But then to make this claim that no one knows even stronger Jesus also said "no one knows, only my Father in heaven". Again, very logical for us to see that this verse supports the doctrine of imminence, but would the disciples see it that way?

This expression that "no one knows the day but my Father" is a reference to a man getting married. The Lord is giving them a clue that this return is for a wedding. According to Jewish calendar there are two very auspicious days for a wedding. The first is the Day of Atonement and the second is the 15th of Av. The 15th of Av is for those who were left in the wilderness and can refer to those who go through the tribulation.

So then from the Disciples point of view Jesus gave them two days: The Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement. These days are ten days apart. If we understand these ten days as ten years, called "Jacob's trouble" and that seven days (seven years) prior to the Day of Atonement the priest changes into a linen garment and goes to the Temple chamber to be guarded for those seven days (seven years), a type and shadow of the rapture, then the Lord was being very specific in His answer. The 70th week begins on the Feast of Trumpets and seven years later the wedding takes place on the Day of Atonement.

In the wedding ceremony the groom takes the bride to his house for a week long celebration culminating in the wedding.

Noah entered the ark seven days before the flood.

Priest enters the temple chamber seven days before the Day of Atonement.

This would also mean that the Feast of Trumpets was during the Pandemic, the longest day, in 2020 we had the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and shutdowns due to the pandemic all over the world. In 2021 we had illegal vaccine mandates, tyranny raising its head, with a multitude of lies. By that time every witness should have been clear that we could see the new moon on this very dark age. We are now at the end of the third year from that, this Feast of Trumpets will be the beginning of the 4th day which is seven days prior to the day of Atonement and time for the priest to be taken to the Temple chamber.
One point I'd make and that I think the Lord was making. The feast of trumpets requires two witnesses to see the new moon and then report it to the Sanhedrin. It doesn't say they have two special "witnesses" that go out, rather it seems any two can spot it and then they get questioned and grilled by the Sanhedrin. So we all have been charged to be the Lord's witnesses, we should all be looking at the signs, events and prophecies to see if this is the Lord's return and if so let's report what we see and allow others to grill us on this.
 

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Who? Jesus can, that is who.

Revelation 13:4 They fell down and worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; they also worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like (as great as) the beast, and who is able to wage war against him?”

Who? Jesus can, that is who. The entire book of Revelation is a revelation of Jesus. Why are you being left behind in the tribulation? Because Jesus is tiny in your eyes. Think about the movie "Cinderella Man". He fights the championship fight against this very scary killer of a boxer. His wife is terrified. But that fight revealed that he was a heavyweight champion.

Jesus is the biggest heavyweight champion. This is why the demons were all so scared of him. No one wanted to fight with him. Even the crucifixion, they didn't want it during the feast, but Jesus is the one calling the shots. After crucifying Him they were scared of His being resurrected which is why they put the armed guard on the tomb.

Satan is like a toothless tiger. If you don't know that Jesus is the champion you need to know that before the wedding. Don't look at the tribulation as this horror movie with fiery hail, poison water, scary locusts, scorpions, and some army no one can fight. Instead see the tribulation as a revelation of Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of Lords.
 

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He Said It!!! Let Us Recommit To PEACE And SECURITY For All!!!


"Let us use this international day of peace as the clarion call to all"
 

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He Said It!!! Let Us Recommit To PEACE And SECURITY For All!!!


"Let us use this international day of peace as the clarion call to all"
The same people that brought you the Iraq War 1 and Iraq War 2 and Afghanistan War and Ukraine War are now telling us "peace and security" in the Middle East!
 

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Before Judgement falls on a city God sends warnings


Rosh Hashanah Special Message on 9/11 | How You Are God's Watchman To Guard | Jonathan Cahn Sermon
 

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Feast of Trumpets -- 2020 -- Global shutdown of the economy due to the Pandemic. God was declaring a sabbath fast.

Feast of Trumpets -- 2021 -- Illegal mandates of the vaccine revealing a tyrannical control of the world's governments.

Feast of Trumpets -- 2022 -- Nordstream pipeline is blown up revealing we are headed for Armageddon and the world will hate the whore of Babylon and rise up and devour her flesh and replace the US dollar with the ten kings (BRICS).

Feast of Trumpets -- 2023 -- They are proclaiming peace and security as a clarion call in celebration of internation Peace day on the 21st. They are brokering a peace deal for Israel that would allow them to rebuild their temple in exchange for land on the 18th and 19th and they are confirming Agenda 2030, the covenant signed in 2015, strengthening it by controlling what you can buy or sell to enforce compliance.
 

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G20 announces plan to implement digital currency and IDs worldwide.


EMERGENCY ALERT!! THIS WILL HAPPEN. 8 BILLION PEOPLE. MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
 

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Activities in the Enemies Camp Don't Lie! They Know Rapture is About to Happen!