Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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The appointed day

I have been looking at this from God's point of view and the Bible's point of view. But how about from others point of view?

My son said "if all these countries want to attack the US, why haven't they?"

So do they have an appointed day?

1. Russia -- the USSR went bankrupt and broke apart on Christmas, 1989. The response of the world was to rejoice saying "peace and security". I think for Russia, Christmas is a very meaningful day for him to attack the US.

2. China -- They sell a lot of stuff to the US and Christmas is the biggest season. I can imagine that for their economy Christmas would be the best day as you would not lose that Christmas season.

3. North Korea -- Kim Jong Un promised the US a Christmas gift, so for him I suspect he would want the attack to come on Christmas.
 

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Appointed Day (part 2)

In addition to the day being meaningful to some of our enemies, we also have an appointed day for BRICS, which is Jan 1, and for Agenda 2030 which is Dec 31. These two things are involved with one world government and one world currency and for both of them the US is restraining what most of the world wants. You aren't going to get either of these as long as the US stands in the way, so removing the US first makes sense.
 

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God is About to Bless Israel, Canal & Oil 12/19/2023
 

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Saint Malachy's Ρrοphecy About Οur World In 2024 Ιs About To Ηappen (DΑRΚNESS Ιs Coming)


We have talked about the destruction of the Great Babylon as the destruction of the US. However we have also noted that Revelation 17 has frequently been said to refer to the Vatican whereas Revelation 18 seems much more appropriate to say it is speaking of the US.

One set of videos that I have linked earlier in this blog pointed out the connection between 4 cities: Washington DC, NYC, London and Rome.

Babylon is called "that Great city that rules over the kings of the earth". These 4 cities all have that fact as part of their legacy.

We recently showed a new interpretation of the king that is to come which is of the seven refers to the Islamic Caliphate and one can imagine that the Islamic Caliphate would certainly have to take out these cities to establish their one world government and one world religion.
 

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Persecution has come! What are we to expect? Part #1

2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Matthew 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 1. You will be hated by the world because they hated Jesus Christ.

John 5:18; Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:22; 1 John 3:13 2. The religious leaders and communities shall turn on you because they turned on Jesus Christ.

Matthew 10: 18-20; Mark 15: 6-15; Matthew 27: 11-26 3. The world will tell lies upon you just as they did Jesus Christ.

Matthew 5: 11; 10: 25: Mark 3: 22 (Another example: Potiphar’s wife and Joseph Genesis 39) 4. The people will deny the power of Jesus Christ and he in you just as they denied this power while he was in human flesh and even after he has been glorified.

Luke 12:9; 23: 2; Titus 1: 16; Exodus 5: 2; 2 Timothy 2:12; 3: 5; 2 Peter 3: 3-4; Matthew 10: 33 5. Friends will abandon you just as the disciples abandoned Jesus Christ in the garden when the soldiers came for him.

Matthew 26: 56 (Another example Paul in Rome too by Demas 2 Timothy 4:10) 6. You will have to learn to pray earnestly, even agonizing in your prayer battles to endure what you are to face as Jesus Christ did in the garden of Gethsemane.

Matthew 26: 36-46; Mark 14: 32-42; Luke 22: 40-46 7. Those who profess to love you shall betray you just as Peter, other and Judas Iscariot did Jesus Christ, but Judas sealed his betrayal with a kiss.

Matthew 10: 21; 35-37; 26: 48-49; 69-75; John 18: 15-17; 25-27; Psalms 41:9; 55:12-14 8. The enemy shall move against you in the shadows, at night so they can accuse you in the hours of light, of day. Just as they did Jesus Christ when they came for him in the night hours then accused him in the morning hours that followed.

John 18: 13; 28; Matthew 26: 45; 27: 1-2 9. Mobs shall be incited against you just as the mobs were against Jesus Christ as well and other of your children found written in the Word of God.

Matthew 26: 45; John 18: 3; Luke 4:28-30; Acts 17:5-6 10. For the love of money, you will be sold out, betrayed Jesus was betrayed by Judas Iscariot for 30 pieces of silver.

1 Timothy 6:10; Matthew 27: 3-5; 26: 14-16 (Another example: Samson by Delilah Judges 16: 18) 11. You shall be arrested unjustly, just as Jesus Christ was.

John 18: 12; Matthew 10: 17-18; 26: 47 12. You shall have false evidence created against you just as they did Jesus Christ when he stood before Caiaphas the high priest and Annas.

1 Peter 3: 16; Matthew 26: 59-62; John 18: 13; 24 13. You shall have a mockery for a trial, some more than one as they did Jesus Christ. If you are allowed to even have a trial.

Matthew 26: 57; 27: 11; John 19: 2-3 14. You shall be beaten and tortured even before you were found guilty and after just as Jesus Christ was.

Matthew 26: 67; John 19: 1-3; mark 15: 16-20; Isaiah 50: 6; 52: 14 15. To serve Jesus Christ you will be made to walk a hard road and endure much hardship and distress, just as Jesus Christ did when he walked the road to Calvary's hill, to Golgotha.

John 19: 17; Matthew 8:20; 10: 38-40; Mark 15: 21-22; Luke 9: 57-62; Isaiah 53: 1-12 (Examples of others’ hard walks: Hebrews 11: 35-40) 16. You will be murdered, some of you just as they tried to take Jesus Christ’s life only, he was in control and gave his freely.

2 Corinthians 4:11-12; John 19:17; Revelation 6:9-10; 20:4-5 17. You will be mocked as Jesus Christ was.

Matthew 20:19; 27: 27-31; 2 Peter 3:3-7; Proverbs 14:9; Mark 15: 20; 31; Luke 23:11 (Examples: of mocking Genesis 19:14; 21:9; 2 Chronicles 36:16; Acts 17:32)

This is what many of us as true believers of Jesus Christ can expect in our walk of faith in the coming days that lay ahead until we see Jesus Christ return in his glorious appearing when he comes for his children, bride who are ready in him. No man knows the day or the hour when he will return. Until that time, we must endure the good fight of faith through Jesus Christ, in his name, by his strength and through his blood that covers us. (James 1:2-4; 1 Timothy 6:12; 2 Corinthians 12:10)

The only difference between the children of God suffering and that that Jesus Christ suffered is that we do not have to go through it alone. He will be with us through it all. Never leaving us nor forsaking us and having endured all that he did for us he knows exactly what it takes to comfort, encourage, and strengthen each one of us every step of the way. Because Jesus Christ is faithful and will always be even unto the end of all things. (Deuteronomy 7:9; Matthew 28:20) Even in all this we are to take joy in our suffering and persecution, that we have been found worthy to suffer in his name. But we can still have joy, peace, and love beyond all measure that the world cannot understand because it's found in Jesus Christ alone. He is that perfect peace that is beyond mere man's comprehension. He is that strength that will keep us going when we ourselves have no strength left. He is that joy when all around it looks like hope has failed. And he is Balm of Gilead when our pain is the deepest. (1Peter 4:13; 2 Corinthians 12:9-10; Romans 5:3-5; Philippians 4:7)

Proverbs 2410 says this, “If thou faint in the day of adversity, die strength is small.” This means if your strength is failing even now before all these things truly begin to transpire against us, the children of God then your strength is small, because you're trying to trust in your own strength and not the strength of Jesus Christ.

Jeremiah 12: 5 says this, “If thou hast run with the footmen and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? And if in the land of peace or in thou trusted they wearied thee, and how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?” This is asking you if you are weary now with all that you're facing during times of peace in what you're facing now, how are you going to stand when the real heavy persecution begins and/or physical war? We are to be content in whatever state we find ourselves in. Whether it be war, or peace. Whether we be in prison or free because we must trust his plans regardless. When we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior then we're enlisted in his army. We are called to serve. We are called to reach the lost and that might mean being in prison to do so. That will mean refusing to deny Jesus Christ and possibly losing our life for it. But it may also be that by our firm example through Jesus Christ someone else may have the power to stand and not deny Jesus Christ when their time comes to endure such persecution. (Philippians 4:11-13; 1 Peter 3:14-18; 4:12-16; Acts 1:8; Matthew 28:19-20)

We are in tribulation days, but the great time of tribulation is upon us. We know Jesus Christ is coming back but until his bride is ready in his eyes and by his holy standards, we will all have to endure more persecution, trials, and tribulations and this is allowed to purify us, purge us, mold us and get us prepared. Again, no man knows the exact day or hour when Jesus Christ will come. (1 Peter 5:10; Matthew 24; Mark 13:32)
 

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Persecution has come! What are we to expect? Part#2


Some of us have had dreams and visions of Jesus returning before war begins in America. For me it has always been before the weapons are dropped from the skies upon our land, but what must we endure before this? War can officially begin by America declaring war on other nations and/or their people or acts of aggression and war by attacks our nation receives on our own territories and lands like Guam, Hawaii for example, with the weapons dropping directly upon us at a later time. Why am I saying all of this, so we understand that we cannot trust in our own hopes. Our hope alone must be in Jesus Christ and him alone. This is not to discourage you but to encourage you because Jesus Christ has warned from the start to prepare us. Now those with eyes to see and ears to hear can see and know more than ever persecution, trials, and tribulations spoken of for the end time days of tribulation are here.

Let us be encouraged by God’s Holy Word: 1 Corinthians 10: 13 says, “There hath no temptation taking you but such as is common two man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.” Habakkuk 3:17-19 17 Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: 18 Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation. 19 The LORD God is my strength, and he will make my feet like hinds' feet, and he will make me to walk upon mine high places. To the chief singer on my stringed instruments. Isaiah 41:10-13 10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. 11 Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish. 12 Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought. 13 For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Psalms 34:19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all. Psalms 34:27: The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate. Isaiah 59: 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. 1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Hebrews 13:5-6 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. Deuteronomy 31:8 And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed. 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. Death of the Apostles, prophets, and disciples

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PETER – The Apostle was imprisoned in Rome by the Emperor Nero who had him crucified upside down in 67 AD. MATTHEW – The Apostle was preaching the gospel of Christ in Ethiopia and suffered martyrdom by the sword.

JAMES THE LESSER – The Apostle was thrown from the top of the temple and when that didn’t kill him he was beaten to death with a club.

JAMES THE GREAT – The Apostle was put on trial in Jerusalem and sentenced to death. James was beheaded.

BARTHOLOMEW – The Apostle was also known as Nathaniel. Bartholomew was preaching the gospel of Christ in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was flayed to death by a whip while in Armenia.

ANDREW – The Apostle was crucified in Patras, Greece for preaching the gospel of Christ.

THOMAS – The Apostle was on one of his missionary trips to India to preach the gospel when he was stabbed to death with a spear.

JUDE – The Apostle was also known as Thaddeus. Jude was killed by arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.

PHILLIP – The Apostle was beheaded in Turkey for preaching the gospel of Christ.

SIMON THE ZEALOT – The Apostle was sawn in half in Persia for preaching the gospel of Christ.

MATTHIAS – The Apostle chosen to replace Judas Iscariot was stoned for preaching the gospel of Christ and then beheaded.

JOHN – The last of the original disciples of Jesus did face martyrdom in Rome where he was boiled alive in a huge basin of oil. However, John was miraculously delivered from death by God (remember God needed John to write his gospel and the book of Revelation). John was also sentenced to work in the mines on the Isle of Patmos but ultimately John died of old age as the only Apostle not to suffer martyrdom.

PAUL – The Apostle was imprisoned in Rome and beheaded by the Emperor Nero in 65 AD.

MARK – The writer of the book of Mark and disciple of Christ was preaching the gospel in Alexandria, Egypt when he was martyred. An angry mob bound Mark’s feet and he was drug through the streets of Alexandria by a team of horses.

LUKE – The writer of the book of Luke and disciple of Christ was hanged in Greece for preaching the gospel.

JOHN THE BAPTIST – John was the prophesied forerunner of Christ. John was imprisoned by Herod and later beheaded.

STEPHEN – This disciple of Christ was stoned to death in Jerusalem for his faith. The above individuals are just some of the famous people from the Bible that we know were killed in service to God.

The number of unknown Christians who were martyred in the early days we’ll never know but there were a lot. Today in America Christians aren’t persecuted like they were back then but the day will come when they are so we need to be prepared to meet that challenge. Revelation tells us Christians will one day be beheaded for not renouncing their faith in Christ. Some Old Testament prophets called to service by God were also slain:

ISAIAH – Killed with a saw by Manasseh, King of Judah.

ZECHARIAH – Slain in the temple by Joash, King of Judah.

JEREMIAH – Stoned to death in Egypt by Jews living there.

EZEKIEL – Slain in Chaldea by the chief Jew living there.

HABAKKUK – Stoned to death in Jerusalem by Jews.

AMOS – Tortured and killed with a staff by the priests of Bethel.

WHAT PRICE ARE YOU WILLING TO SUFFER FOR JESUS CHRIST?
 

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Could This Be A Picture Of The First Seal?


I have always felt that the Lord's word "no one knows the day" means that it isn't one of the OT feast days nor would it be a solstice, or a pagan holiday like Christmas. Everyone knows those days.

However, in the celebration of Christmas I always felt that the evening of the 24th is the real worship of Jesus' birth while the morning of the 25th is the "worship of Santa Claus". So perhaps December 24th is a "day that no one knows" when Jesus had His earthly ministry.
 

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10 Then said the Lord, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night:

11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

Many wonder how there could be a hell. God has labored over the people of the earth, and over the animals. He desires all men to be saved and come to the full knowledge of Him. But you cannot say you have a "free and fair" election if 100% of the people vote for you. We used to mock the dictators claims.

So the proof that people do have a free will is that some do not choose the Lord. This means that there has to also be a temptation to not choose God. You cannot claim that everyone is honest if there is no possibility to lie. So there is a tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

So then what are the temptations that Satan uses? Covetousness, lust, pleasure, power, fame, fortune, etc.

But God desires a bride that loves Him. How do we know that the Lord loves us? Because He died for us. So then, it stands to reason that every believer in the Lord needs to suffer for Him and that would include every form of suffering. Dying for the Lord is obviously one, being tortured another, but being threatened is also real. Mocking, ridicule, ostracism, these are all forms of suffering. Doing the right thing even though it will result in you being misunderstood and blamed. Jesus didn't just die, He suffered an ignominious death of felons and heinous criminals. He was rejected, He was betrayed, He was sold out. So it stands to reason that the believers would all need to go through similar things, perhaps no one of us can go through all that Jesus did, but collectively we can.

There is a temptation to "go along to get along". So you need to be outnumbered. People who walk by faith and not by sight are a very small minority.

So let's return to Jonah. God shows mercy on Nineveh because He wants them to be saved but a few hundred years later the prophecy is fulfilled. Yes, He wanted those in Nineveh to repent and turn to Him, but the truth is "many are called, few are chosen". However, the only one who is suffering for the Lord is Jonah, and he isn't happy about it. God is trying to show Him, "hey you should be rejoicing". Yes, God is calling to all in Nineveh to repent, but what is happening with Jonah indicates that he is the one who is chosen, the one willing to suffer for the word of God. But Jonah needs to rejoice in that suffering, that would be perfect.
 

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The flood is about to come

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:


Whenever someone is caught doing evil they claim that there are special circumstances, they talk about how they were put into a tough position, they had to choose between their job or the crime, etc. There was a congressman who revealed he had been invited to orgies in Washington DC and they drummed him out of Congress because he wouldn't go along and they portrayed him as having mental problems. So you can see how others might also want to say something but seeing this man destroyed they are reluctant. Everyone gets tempted, everyone is threatened, I don't want to hear about how you were worried about this or that. You should know that this way leads to destruction, you don't want to take it, who cares what they are threatening, they aren't threatening eternal damnation.

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I am going to guess that since everyone gets tempted, everyone gets a chance to take the narrow way. This word "find" can refer to finding something after a diligent search or finding something after happenstance, or stumbling across something. Here is the problem, the gate is very narrow, it is very restricting, you look at that gate and say "I think I'll pass" or "let's look for another way". The only way you will find this gate is if you are actually interested in finding "the way that leads to life". The only way you would be looking for that is if you fear God more than you fear men.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Suppose some people come to you and say they want to make you a congressman. Sounds good! You get a good job, good benefits, good pay, respect, and the job is real simple. You simply say "Aye" when they want you to say aye. Just remember, if it is too good to be true, then it is too good to be true.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

This is the key point. If you looked at a man who was rich, had a luxury car, two houses, and beautiful wife would you think that is the kind of fruit you want? Why not, right? But as you get to know him you discover he is "fast and loose" with the truth. Would that give you pause? You also learn he is an adulterer. Wouldn't that tarnish the whole fairybook marriage? If you learn more you discover that he is under investigation for crimes, and these crimes he has committed. So yes, right now he has the cars and houses, but for how long? The more you look the more you see that he is sitting atop a giant bonfire that is about to be lit. Do you still want these fruits for your own life?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

There are people who go their whole life, raise a large family, live honestly, don't have all that "bling" but they have real friends, strong family, and a legacy of an honest life. They bring forth good fruit. What we are seeing with Joe Biden, and with Bill Clinton and Barak Obama and all those who flew on the Lolita express, that is not everyone. For every tree bringing forth evil fruit you can also find a good tree bringing forth good fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

If you walk according to the Lord and according to the Spirit within, you can't bring forth evil fruit. Also, those women who have trouble with men, know this, a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Stop lying to yourself that you will "change" him.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

This is a fact. This is human history. Why would you want to invest your life with a tree that does not bring forth good fruit? In the end you get cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

You aren't going to know them by their looks, or by their clothes or their car or their job or their watch or gold jewelry, etc. You shall know them by their fruits. There is nothing wrong with being impressed by the Stock Broker who has the nice car, nice house, and fat paycheck. But if you get to know him and discover he is a liar, he is a crook, and he is an adulterer. Then you should know him by his fruits, that guy is heading to hell.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Yes, even if he pretends to be a good Christian, talks about the Bible, goes to church each week, the guy can still be a fraud. Liars lie, so of course they can lie about being a Christian.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Notice how the liars and cheats only do "wonderful works". Are any of them saying "Lord, have we not gone to prison for your name, and didn't we sacrifice everything for your name? Because of your name we were persecuted, reviled, and mocked. No they don't pay any price to be a Christian. As long as they are casting out devils, doing wonderful works, and being praised and glorified they are happy to lie about being a Christian.

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


When we are suffering we can also experience "the fellowship of His sufferings". That is when we get to know the Lord and He gets to know us.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Building your house on a rock is hard work. It takes time, involves digging, and is costly. I watched a short video, just a couple of minutes, of Mike Tyson training. He was demonstrating his footwork involved in setting up a punch. I took one look at that and said "no way you get into a ring with a trained fighter". That footwork was building his house as a fighter on a rock.

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

How many of us view our Christian life as though we were getting into the ring with heavyweight champions? How many dug down to the rock for our Christian life so that when floods come they could stand? The flood is about to come.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Right now we are witnessing the fall of the house that Joe Biden built, and the fall of the Deep State and the fall of the apostate church. Great will be the fall of them.
 

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Zechariah 5 The choice is yours, the Lord’s lampstand or this sinful woman in a basket.

1 I looked again, and there before me was a flying scroll.

In the last chapter he woke up and saw what the Lord had built with the church. Now he looks again and sees this flying scroll.

2 He asked me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying scroll, twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.”

This scroll indicates the word of God that was sealed up but is now revealed for all to see and the size of this scroll reminds us of the door to the Holy of Holies.

3 And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. 4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’”

The word of God is filled with both the blessings to those that keep the word and curses for those that despise the word. So we have seen Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple and bringing in the kingdom to Jerusalem, now we see those who are the thieves and liars. On the one hand the word will supply oil to the ministries that bring in the kingship and priesthood, on the other hand the word will be a curse to those that bring in death and deceit.

I have heard other Christians argue that we should just wait till this passes and still others argue that it is not for Christians to speak a word against crooks and liars in the government. I have seen this while teaching, some kids will tell you that as the teacher your place is at the front of the room. I tell them I have been given dominion over the entire room and will move freely wherever I need to. In the same way I will speak God’s word regardless of where it goes and His word is not restricted to some small neat little corner of the room. His word is over all and all will be judged by that word.

The Woman in a Basket

5 Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, “Look up and see what is appearing.” 6 I asked, “What is it?” He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity of the people throughout the land.” 7 Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, “This is wickedness,” and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it. 9 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth. 10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me. 11 He replied, “To the country of Babylonia to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”

The world will get a choice, they can choose this woman or they can choose the church which the Lord has built. Lead signifies sin, a woman in a sinful basket. She is from Babylon where a tower was built to God built with idols on every brick. It is like your typical advertisement for an automobile where they have to have an attractive woman next to the car to suggest that men who buy this car will be more attractive and have women drawn to them. This is Babylonian commerce in a nutshell. God has two women who fly like Storks take her to Babylon. Storks according to ancient rabbinical understanding fly real high. This isn’t just some ad in a newspaper or even a glossy magazine, no these are ads on the internet using Artificial Intelligence to target you and to manipulate you. Many people were upset that Trump “lost” the 2020 election, but they obviously were not familiar with this chapter. At the end of the age you will be given a choice, the Lampstand that God has built filled with oil, giving light to the whole world, or you can choose this sinful woman in a basket. Taking a woman in a lead covered basket to Babylon to help sell your junk, that is very reminiscent of human trafficking. It is stunning how many people have been linked to Epstein’s pedophile island, whether Clinton, or Bill Gates or Prince Andrew. When the Bible talks about whoredoms, prostitution and other heinous crimes these are not just allegorical, the Lord knows much more than we do of the depth of their depravity.

Anyway, returning to the 2020 election, we are getting a very clear choice. The evidence is mounting that those in power in the US got there through theft and deceit. They also were carried aloft by the tech giants using AI to control what people read and heard and to manipulate people. This sinful woman has been set on high and the choice is yours.

The corruption of the Earth is based on three events. The fall of man in Genesis 3, the mingling of fallen angels with mankind in Genesis 6 and Babylon, a worldly system in rebellion to God. Mount Hermon is thought to be the mountain where the transfiguration took place and also the mountain where these fallen angels came down to the Earth. When the rapture took place and the manchild was caught up the fallen angels were cast down. That is the first step in the Lord bringing in the kingdom on Earth as it is in heaven. In the first step we deal with the spiritual forces of the air. Then in the second step you see all those left behind discover the golden lampstand and the ministry of the Holy Spirit. As a result we see a very clear separation between the evil Babylonian worldly system and the Lord's move on Earth.
 

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There is a big question about the "temple" or the "tabernacle of David". Does the Antichrist help Israel build or raise this? Is it done prior to the tribulation, at the beginning or during the tribulation.

My opinion is this. What determines the start of Daniel's 70th week?

It is not the returning of Jews to Israel and it's not getting Jerusalem back and it's not having Jerusalem set as your capital.

I think it has to do with restarting the sacrifices and oblations. I also think they may decide to raise the tabernacle of David rather than rebuild a temple, so this could take place in a matter of days.
 

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5 principles in responding to false teachers

I believe that all wisdom and knowledge is hidden in the word so I will pray that the word of God would guide me as I walk the narrow way.

1. Head on


James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

There is only one good way to take on heavy seas in a boat and that is head on. If you turn to the side you will be flipped, if you try to run with the waves they will drive you into the rocks. When you are surrounded by “group think” it is like being in heavy seas.

2. Psychological influence of a uniform

James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

Whenever I wondered who Witness Lee was they told me about Watchman Nee and how Witness Lee was his closest coworker. The mistake I made was to feel that Watchman Nee was clearly and undeniably a man of God, therefore if he judged that Witness Lee was also a genuine man of God (hence his closest coworker) then I could too. This is "having faith in our Lord Jesus Christ with respect of persons". Who better to say this than James. I suspect that many believers feel the same way about James, the brother of the Lord. False teachers exploit this vulnerability. My faith in the Lord Jesus is based on my relationship with Him and not anyone else but Him.

Consider Bernie Madoff. He was once the head of the Nasdaq. That adds credibility, people feel a guy like that is already established financially and is not going to threaten his reputation with shady deals. It was the "respect of persons" that helped him build his business and rob people. It is a proven fact that crooks in uniforms have an easier time in deceiving people. People tend to trust the uniform and ignore common sense. Consider the experiments where people were asked to administer electric shocks to strangers, why did they do it? We have been trained to be a respecter of persons.

3. No loyalty pledge


James chapter 5:12 But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or with any other oath. But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No,” “No,” lest you fall into judgment.

Above all = this is the most important charge of all of them. “Do not swear with any other oath”. No loyalty pledge to a man. How do you know when you have “wandered from the truth”? You know when you are forced to sign a “loyalty pledge” to “the apostle” and being baptized into Christ is not sufficient. False prophets and Jezebel require strange oaths. The World requires strange oaths. Stamping your forehead with 666 is a strange oath.

Remember, Hitler required the German military to swear a loyalty oath to him, a month after having Roehm shot. McCarthy ran the loyalty review boards used for political repression. Sacramentum was the loyalty oath required of Romans. Tertullian rejected the oath for Christians saying that Baptism is the only oath we give. Christians who refused to make an offering to the Romans God and swear by the emperor’s genius were executed.

4. Blessings and cursing from the same mouth

James chapter 3:11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? 12Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.

This is a key indicator of a false prophet. If he was truly ministering the living waters then how could he also be ministering salt water? No spring in nature does that. Rather this reveals that in his heart there is evil. We are not able to judge the heart, but we are able to judge the deeds, the endeavors, the works of the hands. With a false teacher if you judge him by his deeds it is clear, they will be wicked, evil, and reveal a worker of iniquity. He will speak peace and security, but act in a way that is evil.

5. Blinded by pride

James chapter 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?

The context is that they are proud and arrogant to know the things they do are sin and yet do them anyway. It is the kind of arrogance of an adulteress who thinks her “weak” husband can do nothing in response. As though the Spirit can do nothing. This is the underlying thought behind "once saved always saved" doctrine. This is why the false prophets tell the Lord "did we not do works of power in your name" and then are stunned when He responds "depart from me workers of iniquity for I never knew you". This is why some of those in the church in Sardis will have their names "blotted out of the book of life". This is why the false prophet is in the Lake of Fire before the Great White Throne Judgement. He chose to be judged at the Judgement seat of Christ, thinking he was a Christian and not even realizing his judgment was the Lake of Fire.

Our salvation is a covenant, like marriage. Just because a woman has a ring and her husband’s vow does not mean that if she becomes an adulteress there is nothing he can do. If she breaks the covenant he is no longer bound by it. Likewise, if we break our covenant with God, then God also is no longer bound by it. Balaam received God’s word, but was not saved. Judas received God’s word but was not saved. Gehazi was with Elisha in his ministry, but fell according to this example. Some of those in Sardis had their names “blotted out of the book of life”.
 

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until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth

Right now we have an appointed day to celebrate the birth of Jesus even though we all know that Jesus was not born on this day. But the believers in Jesus in the US celebrate it all the same, and Jesus is Lord. This is His sovereignty.

You may argue that this is really the birth of the antichrist, it is a pagan holiday, and Nimrod was a type of the Antichrist, and this is what the real history of this worship is. No argument, however, we know that the Antichrist is revealed (ie his birth) after the restrainer is removed. So then the rapture of the spirit filled believers could take place at the same time as the Antichrist is revealed. When Jesus said "no one knows the day or the hour" was he talking about the rapture? If so He wasn't talking about the day and hour that the Antichrist would be "born".

Micah 5:1 Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

I think that we can consider Israel divided into two parts, Judah and the ten northern tribes sometimes referred to as Ephraim. Today about 49% of Jews live in Israel and 49% live in the US. So I like to consider those in Israel to be Judah and those in the US to be the ten tribes. The judge of the US is Donald Trump and he has most definitely been smitten on the cheek with a rod. You could also argue that this is a reference to Biden, but if so I will not interpret what that would refer to here, should be obvious.

2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

This is a reference to Jesus' birth, but could it also be a reference to the birth of the manchild in Revelation 12? We often say that "pattern is prophesy" since the book of Ecclesiastes says "that which has been done is that which will be done". Bethlehem was a small town outside of Jerusalem, the major city in Israel. Today we have some major cities in the US, Washington DC and NYC. But the proper church, the one that is a mustard plant and not a giant tree filled with evil birds, that is a place where shepherds watch their flocks, a place that is not involved in the politics of the day. This is where the raptured saints will be.

3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

This verse is interesting, kind of indicates that this woman travails alone but when she brings forth her child that is when we also have the remnant return to the Lord. We can see today that the big mega churches with a huge congregation, big media ministry, and very wealthy are not talking about prophecy or about the Lord's return. It is as though the Christians are divided on this issue of the rapture and the Lord's soon return. But you can imagine after the rapture many, many believers who were deceived will return to the Lord and give themselves to Him.
 

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Revelation 12 Sign

12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:


We saw this sign in the heavens and the last time something similar to this appeared it was probably after the fall of man when they said that the seed of the woman would crush the serpents head and he would bruise His heel.

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.


After 2017 the watchmen began crying out concerning the Lord's soon return.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.


The great red dragon appeared with the Pandemic and the vaccine mandate. The ten horns refer to BRICS and although we can see it, they do not appear in full until Jan 1. Also the seven crowns upon his heads has been interpreted in two ways. One is that BRICS has seven heads in the UAE, the other is that we have had 7 empires that have ruled over Israel.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Right now with the populist movement we are seeing corrupt world leaders being cast down, exposed, and removed from their office on high. We also see that the result of this is that they become more and more intent to do the people of faith harm.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.


I would argue this is the rapture. Therefore I expect to see massive corruption not simply revealed, but people removed from office prior to the rapture, I also expect to see BRICS in full power, hence the collapse of the US dollar.