Homosexual Brother, need HELP!

pwrnJC · Mar 28, 2016

tinytom.....tisk, tisk....what shallow advice you dish out. Oops...I did not mean 'advice", I mean 'opinionated garbage".

Being a homosexual is not a sin, just as being a heterosexual is not a sin, and it's not our place to judge others, unless they claim Christianity. (Direct quote from YOU).

We're so glad that you are not licensed to be a CHRISTIAN counselor, pastor, or Christian group leader in any form or fashion. That kind of ideology does not guide anyone to CHRIST. It gives them incentive and fuel to continue in their filthy lifestyle and same sex marriages. We are not the judges anyway...Christian or not...but to proclaim such false doctrine and then believe that you just offered sound advice to someone who really needs direction and answers to such an important issue....is a slap in the face to JESUS CHRIST Himself. Sorry to burst your bubble...but apparently, your BIBLICAL knowledge and forte' is lacking or next to zero when it comes to such matters. Yes, I too have a lesbian niece who has made her choice, made her bed and is sleeping in it. NO..I do not 'kiss her off" my DNA list...but..let's be brutally honest..she needs a total DELIVERANCE from this demonic obsession....and it is totally her choice, not mine. But for me to tell her that it is NOT a sin.....wow...it would have to make me wonder if I really am a true CHRISTIAN, filled with the Holy Spirit and guided by the Holy Spirit. So...I am asking you..."Why, in heaven's name, are you spreading this ugly lie?

GeneralArminius · Mar 28, 2016

We should be loved like anyone else. Yes though, the state of wanting to be in this bondage of same sex attraction is a sin. The state of wanting to change is Godly. Let Godliness win out.

chanchuinchoy · Mar 28, 2016

The bible tells us in Gal5:19-21, the sexual immoral shall NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

what has become of the west nowadays. For ages twisting whats truth in the bible will LIES. Beware this is the work of Satan.

Yeraza_Bats · Mar 28, 2016

We should move ourselves from saying "homosexuality is not a sin" and instead say "the temptation of homosexuality is not a sin". The bible makes it clear, anyone who participates in homosexual relations will not be saved. But we are all tempted, and even Christ endured temptation from the enemy. It is not a sin at all to turn from temptation and reach out to the Lord.

So yes, those of us who deal with the temptations, it is not wrong at all that we deal with them. God is letting it happen. But when we give in and live it out, we intentionally act against Him. Make Him your focus, and not earthly pleasures.

chanchuinchoy · Mar 28, 2016

Yeraza_Bats said:

We should move ourselves from saying "homosexuality is not a sin" and instead say "the temptation of homosexuality is not a sin". The bible makes it clear, anyone who participates in homosexual relations will not be saved. But we are all tempted, and even Christ endured temptation from the enemy. It is not a sin at all to turn from temptation and reach out to the Lord.

So yes, those of us who deal with the temptations, it is not wrong at all that we deal with them. God is letting it happen. But when we give in and live it out, we intentionally act against Him. Make Him your focus, and not earthly pleasures.

You are beating around the bush

Church2u2 · Mar 29, 2016

Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 .Mind you the almighty said they shall be put to death and notice how the punishment comes after the sexual act was committed? Also lesbians weren't mentioned until Romans 1:26. It all speaks that the wrath of the almighty comes after the sinful act is finished.That old testament God didn't give you a second chance.When you sinned you got dealt with instantly. Thank God for grace through His son Jesus or a lot of us would be dead.I think that it's up to that homosexual or lesbian to decide if they want to be saved and give up those sexual acts and any other sinner it's their choice.We Christians should just be sure that we aren't sinning ourselves before we start messing with other people.

Plus2 · Mar 30, 2016

1 John 3:11 This is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.

No exceptions, no discrimination, no judgement, just love. We are suppose to be living examples of God's love. Judging is not our place. I'm so thankful God loves me unconditionally because I've certainly done some thing unworthy of his unfaltering love. I'm not saying that anyone has to change their beliefs to accommodate someone else's life styles or their different beliefs but you love them regardless. I can only hope I can show people even a fracture of that kind of love.

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chanchuinchoy said:

I always get a kick out of those verses. If read carefully, the sins cover all of us.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Yeraza_Bats · Mar 31, 2016

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I always get a kick out of those verses. If read carefully, the sins cover all of us.
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

If we remain unrepentant to them, we will be held accountable to them.

Yeraza_Bats · Mar 31, 2016

chanchuinchoy said:

How so?

(I have to add more for the character limit : /)

Kisses1990 · Apr 1, 2016

Jesus12 said:

I'm sorry to say that I'm a little disturbed by your reaction to your brother here. You should not be losing sleep and having your family torn apart as you suggested is happening. It seems like you are taking it to a detrimental psychological place...You may have different beliefs than your brother, but you should not let it segregate the family. That's very unfortunately. Just be accepting and loving of your family no matter what issues you may disagree on. He is your brother. No family agrees with 100% of what everyone does. People make mistakes, people do some stupid things, everyone sins in different ways. I don't like that you are "sick about this". I just don't think this is a healthy attitude to have about it. You don't have to agree with it, but at the end of the day, it's HIS life and he can do what he wants. Your job as a sister is to be supportive and loving and accepting of him and you can try to persuade him otherwise a bit, but that will get annoying rather quick if you are constantly on his back about it. Just relax. Plant the christian seeds in him slowly and gradually, don't bombard him with your ideal lifestyle. In time, he may change, or not. Either way, it's not something to break a family up over.

Plus2 · Apr 4, 2016

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You are so right. Funny how no one ever seems to have as big of an issue with the other sins as though one is any more important in Gods eyes.

presidente · Apr 4, 2016

I'd be careful how you talk to him about this.

I read a post here that said, "Homosexuality is sin."

Someone who's been indoctrinated into the "LGBT" movement is going to think of 'homosexuality' as a state of being they can't control, a way they were born. 'Gay' is used the same way.

For a lot of conservative Christians and Gen Xers and baby boomers, 'homosexual' means someone who does sexual stuff with someone of the same gender. But for Gen Yers and people who've learned the LGBT way of viewing things, they think of it as 'born that way.' If a guy talks like a 1980's valley girl and flips his wrist around, some people call him 'gay' even if he hasn't done any nasty same-sex acts.

So you can talk about how the Bible condemns certain sexual acts and certain sexual 'lusts.' Be careful with the terms 'homosexual', 'homosexuality', and 'gay', since they think of 'born that way' when they hear these terms. Point out that certain actions are sinful and certain lusts are wrong, too.

A preacher says, "Gays are going to Hell" and the guy indoctrinated into LGBT thought, who had people encouraging him to be 'gay', to come out of the 'closet' because he felt confused, may hear that and say, "There is no hope for me. I was born this way, so I'm just going to Hell because of the way I was born." You've got to get past the smoke screen of terminology and don't talk past each other.

lettucepray · Apr 9, 2016

One thing you could do is fast for a certain amount of time, keeping what you are doing completely hidden from other people, telling no one what you're doing... and politely just refusing food saying you're not hungry (or thirsty) if you want to emphasize your point even further, and wash your face of toxins and stuff, but yeah you could try fasting and your distress will become apparent to him, you will be mourning for your brother... Its something to think about at least. Hope this helps

LOLOKGal · Apr 9, 2016

Jesus12 said:

Oh dear! =( I know the pain you're going through. <3 My sister lived the life of a lesbian for many years. I knew that I had to continue to show God's love to her, because that's what will help to bring her back. Now, I lovingly explained to her that I didn't agree with the life style, but I still loved her. I didn't force the issue with her because I didn't want to put a wedge between us. I wanted her to continue to see Jesus in me. However, when the topic did arise, I would, in a calm and loving manner, explained to her what the Bible said.

There was a time when I was bound and determined to make her stop living this life and I heard God say to me, "Sarah. I don't force My will on anyone. I don't expect you to either.". WOW! I had to just sit back and give it to God. My prayer became, "Lord! Let my sister see You in me. Let my sister desire what I have, which is You. Bring her to her pig pit moment so she'll come running back to You.". I too cried for her, but I never gave up on her. It took several years, but she finally came back to God and He has changed her life. Praise God!

Things she said to me during her dark times where... God loves me just as I am. I said, true, He loves you and accepts you where you are, but you have to be willing to let Him change you.

She said, "Sodom and Gomorrah and all the other verses about homosexuality was only in the Bible times.". I said, "God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow."

She said, "You are more blessed them I". I said, The Bible says that It rains on the just and unjust. However, God promises more blessings on those who love Him and do what He says.". "I didn't use the word "obey" because that has become a for letter word.

So, just love your brother. Pray for him. Let God do the rest. =) <3

slave · Apr 10, 2016

"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as a woman. It is a detestable sin." (Leviticus 18:22).

Yet, also: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Mark 12:31); "A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (John 13:34-35).

slave · Apr 13, 2016

So, let's pause and remind ourselves what a normal Spirit-filled routine is:

1). We are all obligated to Gods will.

2). Gods will is expressed in the Bible.

3). The Bible forbids Homosexual behavior.

4). Therefore, Homosexual behavior is against Gods will, as such -- it is wrong.

Now, if someone is going to resist this reasoning, he's got to deny either that (2) Gods will is expressed in the Bible, or else that (3) the Bible forbids Homosexual behavior. Let's look at (3):

"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as a woman. It is a detestable sin." (Lev. 18:22). So note how he is not implying homosexual, but only homosexual behavior. We need to understand that a person who has a homosexual orientation may not ever express that orientation in actions. In contrast, a heterosexual may practice the acts of homosexuality, yet, not being of that orientation.

We have been rounded up in modern psychology today to make homosexual a noun resulting in sin. God only notes the homosexuality as a verb in its condemnation. We go on to say, "It's all in a homosexuals mind." For some this may be true but for others this may not be true at all. Have we forgotten sins of our forefathers? Have we not seen other diseases that were not in keeping of what God would have for His children up front in some children at birth?

People, a man can be truly homosexual in orientation, yet God is saying for him to surrender it to Him and He will overcome. Let's not be like Jobs friends in the Bible where his tyranny of the urgent is his judgement call of sin. God can work thru all homosexual oriented individuals if they surrender, even if abstinence is the result. But God will be faithful, He will not let them be tempted beyond what they can bear. But when they are tempted, He will also provide a way out so they can stand up under it. (1 Cor. 10:13).

I have friends who have traveled that road and found resolve in Gods hands, some miraculously so, others in a faithful walk of grace afforded them by God.. God can keep you from sinning even as a homosexual oriented person; the Bible is realistic! He will be there to help every step of the way. Does the Bible forbid Homosexual behavior? Yes, resoundingly! Three Old Testament verses and three New Testament verses condemn it utterly, along with inferences in the marriage sections as well.

* Lev. 18:22
* Lev. 20:13
* Gen. 19
* 1 Cor. 6:9-10
* 1 Tim. 1:10
* Rom. 1:24-28

Let's separate the homosexual, (or any sinner) from their sins, this so we can truly love the sinner and truly hate the sin. Heterosexuals, remember: that being homosexual is as such no sin. They are fellow brothers and sisters (lesbians) whom are struggling with this problem. Lets help them back, not condemn them out of Gods venue of loves restoration.

HisHolly · Apr 13, 2016

What did Jesus say when He was asked why He associated with sinners? God desires mercy. God so loved the world that He gave.. He gives and gives all the time.. How will they know you are His disciple? by the love you have.. Love the person and hate the sin. don't badger or condemn or make him feel outcast.. Chances are he already feels like one and the man is all who accepts him for ''him''.. be a safe place for him.. I was a bisexual for most of my life. I didn't need to be told what was written as only God can reveal, draw and convict us.. If we have neither of those then words are useless.. Pray for him bc Jesus died so we could be reconciled to God.. Pray the temptation and deception leave him. proclaim the truth over him when you pray.. Get ahold of scripts that are the promises of God to us and say them aloud.. Gods word is alive and powerful.. our defense against what the enemy plants as true is the word of truth.. I hope this helps.. my grammar is terrible to those who are prescriptive, but I am descriptive so I follow no set of man made rules on how to express myself.. Disclaimer ty

Depleted · Apr 14, 2016

Hmmm, I wonder why Jesus12 never came back to this site just three days after she posted this.

juliak04 · Apr 14, 2016

Hi there. I know this must come to a shock to you, and is very hard to understand how to react. Yes, the Bible does say that homosexuality is a sin. However, there are much worse things for your brother to do that would be considered a sin than coming out as homosexual. I'm sure you have done something the Bible may be against, but the whole purpose of God is to love and embrace his children, and wash away their sins. The Bible would also say for you to love and support your brother through this time. He has probably struggled with this for a long time, and giving him negative opinions will make him feel worse. You should love your brother for the person he is, homosexual or not. Sexuality shouldn't control your actions and feelings towards someone, especially when they are causing no harm. Imagine if you were in a situation where you were different from other people, and were brave enough to embrace yourself in a society that constantly shames you, and have the people you love most add to your anxiety and shame. I know I crest only wouldn't feel great about myself. Yes, he may choose a lifestyle that is different from what you want for him, but it's his life and let him live it with the love and support of you and others. You have no idea how much easier it would be for you to embrace this situation being open minded and accepting towards your brother. There is a way to be Christian and have your own beliefs, but allow other people to have theirs and accept them even though they have beliefs different from yours. I wish you luck with this situation!

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