6 Weeks before the wedding & now this...

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DiscipleDave

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Problems in a relationship that are not fixed, will continue to be problems throughout the entire relationship, no matter how much you or both of you try to sweep the problem under the rug, or think "forget the past, lets start over"
He has issues. You have issues. If these issues are not corrected, they will continue to be issues.

i have read many of these posts, and it seems to me, both of you need more Jesus in your lives. His biggest problem is not having Jesus in His life. People like him do not seek help, until they have lost everything, and have hit rock bottom, then they will seek God. But as long as he has you in his life, he has not lost everything. If you Truly Love him, then you would let him go, knowing that would be the best thing for him. He has to lose everything in order to realize he needs help, that is losing you too. People like him, need to lose everything, family, friends, job, wife, girlfriend, house, vehicle, EVERYTHING, than they will seek God for help. And it will be then, that God will help change his life for the better.

If you two decide to get back together, both of you need to seek counseling. Both of you have issues that need to be addressed, NOT covered up, or hidden. He has anger issues, they will not go away, until he addresses that issue. You say that you have low-self esteem, that will not go away either, until you address the issue and learn WHY you are feeling the way that you do. You say you are weak, WHY? So then both of you have issues, seek counseling to address those issues. If he is unwilling to go to counseling, then he does not love you very much, and is unwilling to address the issues that he has, which might one day accidentally kill you or your son, because of his anger issues, that he was unwilling to fix. If he is not willing to go to counseling, then you should not be wiling to take him back, PERIOD! Don't wait until your in an argument and he gets mad and throws something across the room, not realizing your son came into the room, and now laying on the floor. To realize that his anger issues should have been addressed prior to your son being accidentally hurt or killed. If he is not willing to get help, you should not take the chance with him.

If you are not with him now, and you are lonely, get involved in a Church, they will keep you so busy, you will not have time to be lonely. my Mother who is single and use to be lonely, crying herself to sleep at night, has gotten involved with her Church, and now she is so busy, helping, cleaning, organizing, baking, and the such, she does not have time to be lonely. She has the entire Church. She even now has ladies over to her house to play cards and the such every week. Get involved.

Also i would like you to know, that God usually uses others to give messages to His Children, These people on this thread gave you good wisdom, that the Holy Ghost has given them, to give to you. If you will not listen to them, how will your life improve? If you are looking for answers, and come to Christian Chat seeking those answers, but do not do what they advise you to do, being that they have been through what you are going through now, then why did you come looking for answers that you will not do when you hear them? What you have been deciding to do, has not worked. So listen to them, and see if that works.

And i too will tell you this wisdom. If he does not get help with his issues, your relationship will NOT work. And that is the TRUTH.

^i^
 
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AnneNoel

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Feeling alone...why??? You are a christian, get on your knees and pray for GODS love to encompass you and help you through the death of your best friend and to move on from this relationship.

NO ONE CAN DO THIS FOR YOU!!!! You must do this yourself. You must get the strength and courage to better your life.

Now, before you say I do not understand, please let me share a slight tidbit of my life thus far this year. My Brother died, My uncle died, My father is dying, My grandmother died and my best friend was killed! YES the devil wants to attack me daily, however I do not give him the opportunity to do so. I choose to feel GODS love and know he has a plan! Though it is totally hard and can feel lonely, I do not allow myself the thoughts the devil wishes to induce on me.
I'm so terribly sorry for all the tremendous loss you have suffered this year. Your strength & love for God is an inspiration, Jeni.
 
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AnneNoel

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Thanks for the support and very astute observations. Reading about the narcassistic abuse is very eye opening. I totally see it. I can see I am acting in this fashion...as well.

I guess it is why I am feeling so terribly anxious and uncomfortable. I have my son this weekend and I realize that I have to invest my time in him and not be such a nutcase. I feel unstable and erratic. It scares me because I worry it will affect my employment. I do not want to destroy the income I have...

I am making myself out to be the victim and you are correct...I should not. I am so much better off than many people right now... And I need to realize that.

How do I stay gone? Honestly the hard part has been when he doesn't try to email me etc and I know he's moving on. That's when I panic. I realize the chances to be together are over... And that makes me feel crazy.
You move on by cutting off ALL contact, let it go & give your pain to God. You MUST cut off communication to stay gone. You have to block any means of contact. Once you leave, do this & never look back! I'm so sorry about your friend. Suicide is sooooo horribly sad and frightening.:(
 
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AnneNoel

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Count yourself lucky that you're NOT with him anymore. He very well could have killed you, instead of just breaking your hand. You're correct, you DO need to invest in your son and forget this jerk. If there's any justice in this world, he WILL be arrested and he WILL go to prison. He brought it all upon himself. You're not to blame for any of it. Every time you look at your mangled hand now, let it strengthen your resolve to stay away from this bad news bear..
She said she went back to him...
 

jsr1221

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I wish I could post here with an update that would make everyone proud of me, but I can't.

I am still in this relationship because I got very weak....my best friend committed suicide a couple nights after I left. She and I had grown apart due to the fact that he didnt like me spending time with her...without him. But she really liked him and often encouraged me to work things out with him... she was his biggest fan...

Well when I found out she died...I was destroyed. (I just discovered it was suicide last night) He was too... So, he went to the wake and funeral with me...and today I'm sitting here terrified about what to do.

I don't know if I have the strength to leave again...it's Christmas... and I have virtually no one...without him. My friend is gone and honestly...while I have never considered suicide....I worry that I will end up like her. She was lonely....she wasn't married or dating...

She was a good person. Always kind...and giving...went to church and tried to be a good example ....and she obviously had terrible demons.

So...please give me some support here today. I am struggling.
You're living in fear part in that you're not fully trusting God. The fact you went back to him shows you're relying on your own tendency rather than allowing Him to pull you from the guy. You can get yourself plugged in with solely women's groups. Almost every church has some type of divorce care. You're not divorced, yes, but I mean cmon. Your situation is horrendous. Those types of groups are basically support groups that help women pick up the pieces of their lives, hand it to God, and start to move forward for a new and better. I'd suggest you maybe look around in your area and find a church that does have a DivorceCare.. And I am very sorry to hear about your friend. I know no words can be said to make the pain go away. My prayers are with you, sister.
 
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Dear fellow contributors,

It appears soconfused cannot live without this relationship, no matter how disfunctional and dominating by one party over the other is. She admits in the end, the feeling it is actually over, drives her back to resurrect it again.

Now I know such feelings, but not in this kind of context.

At least we tried, whether it will result in something sensible in the long term who knows.

I just thank the Lord that so far our worst outcomes or scenarios have not played out.
I wonder if anyone knows of a situation that started like this, but the Lord transformed into something better and normal?

I have read stories of people individually healed and changed but not this kind of partnership.
I am not saying it cannot happen, just is there hope, or is it all as black as we fear?

Speaking for myself, I would be heart broken to do the things being done here, and would simply walk away in shame saying I am not worthy to have a partner and am dangerous to anyone who gets close to me.
I speak as a happily married man with grown children who appear to be doing well.
 

Cindy12

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Dear fellow contributors,

It appears soconfused cannot live without this relationship, no matter how disfunctional and dominating by one party over the other is. She admits in the end, the feeling it is actually over, drives her back to resurrect it again.

Now I know such feelings, but not in this kind of context.

At least we tried, whether it will result in something sensible in the long term who knows.

I just thank the Lord that so far our worst outcomes or scenarios have not played out.
I wonder if anyone knows of a situation that started like this, but the Lord transformed into something better and normal?

I have read stories of people individually healed and changed but not this kind of partnership.
I am not saying it cannot happen, just is there hope, or is it all as black as we fear?

Speaking for myself, I would be heart broken to do the things being done here, and would simply walk away in shame saying I am not worthy to have a partner and am dangerous to anyone who gets close to me.
I speak as a happily married man with grown children who appear to be doing well.

I think in any circumstance there is always "hope", but that means the man in this circumstance wants to change and be a much different type of man. I don't see him wanting to change, until he does something so brutal that it scares him, so he promises to change. I pray for this woman that he does finally change before he does something destructive to her or her son, because I want the best for her. Yes, I do think it can happen - but I don't know this man or his side of the story enough to know if he is or can do that for her. I have had friends who have had abusive husbands or boyfriends, and even gone so far as to take out restraining orders on them, but nothing holds them back from continuing to find and hurt this person if they are inclined to do so. It requires 1 man wanting to change. Will he? We will probably never know, but because of what he has done to her so far, I really do pray for her that he does change and can be the man she wants him to be for her and her son if she can't live without him.
 
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monique

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Get out and run for the hills. He is using you for your money. You have a child your number one priority you never give a man control of the dough when you are not married plus the fact you have a child. He isva user. Leave as soon as possible. Do not marry this man who is he to ask about your funds? What you do for your kid is your job. He wanted you to not take care of your kid with your dough. Too controling and the whole nine yards. Run and never go back. Prayers for you and yours.
 
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Thank you for the support here. I was weak as I posted in my last update and I went back. He was begging for the wedding (on Saturday) and wanted me to come home. I did. But we fought. And fought. And fought. So much so that he has insulted me over and over, mainly because I haven't returned the money I took for taxes. I have delayed it. I blamed it on the bank wire being delayed.


well I had my son w me for dinner and he began (10 yrs) calling my fiancé stupid. He is angry at him. So what happened? I told my son to stop. Apologize. My son was still saying things. So my fiancé tries to rub my shoulders and hug me at dinner in a restaurant. He knows that makes my son jealous. My son began elbowing him a little. I told them to stop.

So my fiancé smiles and tells my son that he will take his heart. Grab it w his bare hand and hand it to him.

My son starts crying. And there's more fighting. I was so angry! Then he asked my son if he knew how to say asshole in Spanish. My son said no. So he said "you say it "insert son's name here"

he lsughed it off and said he was joking. But I was livid. I need to disappear ASAP And not marry. How do I do this??? It's his family only. But I am so desperate to get the courage to escape this

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Get out and run for the hills. He is using you for your money. You have a child your number one priority you never give a man control of the dough when you are not married plus the fact you have a child. He isva user. Leave as soon as possible. Do not marry this man who is he to ask about your funds? What you do for your kid is your job. He wanted you to not take care of your kid with your dough. Too controling and the whole nine yards. Run and never go back. Prayers for you and yours.
 

Cindy12

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Thank you for the support here. I was weak as I posted in my last update and I went back. He was begging for the wedding (on Saturday) and wanted me to come home. I did. But we fought. And fought. And fought. So much so that he has insulted me over and over, mainly because I haven't returned the money I took for taxes. I have delayed it. I blamed it on the bank wire being delayed.


well I had my son w me for dinner and he began (10 yrs) calling my fiancé stupid. He is angry at him. So what happened? I told my son to stop. Apologize. My son was still saying things. So my fiancé tries to rub my shoulders and hug me at dinner in a restaurant. He knows that makes my son jealous. My son began elbowing him a little. I told them to stop.

So my fiancé smiles and tells my son that he will take his heart. Grab it w his bare hand and hand it to him.

My son starts crying. And there's more fighting. I was so angry! Then he asked my son if he knew how to say asshole in Spanish. My son said no. So he said "you say it "insert son's name here"

he lsughed it off and said he was joking. But I was livid. I need to disappear ASAP And not marry. How do I do this??? It's his family only. But I am so desperate to get the courage to escape this

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I know this is a long shot, but could you by chance go to your ex's house until you find somewhere else to go? He loves your son and he does not want to see him or you get hurt. If not, what about a women's shelter around your area? If you are desperate, you need to get out! How about a friend from work? Ask your ex to keep your son and you go stay with a friend? I would sure let anyone stay with me who was in your situation!
 

Pilkington

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soconfused2, I am praying for you. As others have said in the past contact a refuge. Just leave, you with your son, nothing matters more than your son and yourself. He has already mentally and physically harmed you, he is a danger to you and your son. How would you feel if he physically harms your son, he is already causing your son emotional damage. I hope and pray you have the stength to leave if you can't please do not have your son anywhere areound him.
 
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I have a place rented near my son's home. It is just my lack of courage. And fear of hurting him and his family. When I say I'm desperate, it's just my fear that the clock is running closer to Saturday when we are supposed to get married. I can't put my son through that ...

i dont feel in danger. But I do believe emotionally I am drowning. That's what my fear revolves around. Today he threatened that he would cancel the wedding if I didn't pay the money back to his account. Stupid me I already gave him my last 2 paychecks. But he says that's not enough and doesn't count because he was already factoring my money into the Bills. Mostly his bills.

I I can not give up the rest of the money!
 

Cindy12

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I have a place rented near my son's home. It is just my lack of courage. And fear of hurting him and his family. When I say I'm desperate, it's just my fear that the clock is running closer to Saturday when we are supposed to get married. I can't put my son through that ...

i dont feel in danger. But I do believe emotionally I am drowning. That's what my fear revolves around. Today he threatened that he would cancel the wedding if I didn't pay the money back to his account. Stupid me I already gave him my last 2 paychecks. But he says that's not enough and doesn't count because he was already factoring my money into the Bills. Mostly his bills.

I I can not give up the rest of the money!
I think that maybe AFTER you leave (to the rented home) you buy a pay as you go phone so he can't get in touch with you, call his family and tell them the wedding is off - that you both have too many issues that have to be worked out and now is not the right time. That you don't want to hurt anyone, but that you have to do the right thing for you and your son right now.
 
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pottersclay

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Well he succeeded in separating you and your money, next will be you and your son....drop it like it's hot.
 
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deesandpooh

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Before you get married i would suggest couple theropy.sounds like he has insecurites and unhealed wounds he needs God to heal before you two get married.getting married wont fix anything.in fact it could make things worst,but i wouldent stay with a man who you dont plan on marrying either,the more time you spend with him the more you want to stay.i would definatly go to God on this one.
 
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Smilernat

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Sounds just like my exhub. Right now, you have a chance to get out. I would say GET OUT of there and pray for him and you. God can change him, but YOU won't be able to do a thing to change him. Please...he will never kill himself...those type of guys are too controlling and more selfish than anybody...they won't kill themselves.
 

blue_ladybug

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Thank you for the support here. I was weak as I posted in my last update and I went back. He was begging for the wedding (on Saturday) and wanted me to come home. I did. But we fought. And fought. And fought. So much so that he has insulted me over and over, mainly because I haven't returned the money I took for taxes. I have delayed it. I blamed it on the bank wire being delayed.


well I had my son w me for dinner and he began (10 yrs) calling my fiancé stupid. He is angry at him. So what happened? I told my son to stop. Apologize. My son was still saying things. So my fiancé tries to rub my shoulders and hug me at dinner in a restaurant. He knows that makes my son jealous. My son began elbowing him a little. I told them to stop.

So my fiancé smiles and tells my son that he will take his heart. Grab it w his bare hand and hand it to him.

My son starts crying. And there's more fighting. I was so angry! Then he asked my son if he knew how to say asshole in Spanish. My son said no. So he said "you say it "insert son's name here"

he lsughed it off and said he was joking. But I was livid. I need to disappear ASAP And not marry. How do I do this??? It's his family only. But I am so desperate to get the courage to escape this


Oh my gosh. He called your son an *sshole AND threatened to kill him, and you're STILL willing to be with this psycho?!!! YOU ARE CRAZY.. He's already assaulted you and put you in the ER. Now your son is in danger, and you're enabling it!!! When are you gonna smarten up and leave this guy? When you see your son lying in a casket? For the love of God, get out of this toxic mess NOW!! As far as the money, it IS your money. He doesn't need it. What is more important to you: your son's welfare or your willingness to stay with this jerk? Every time you have contact with him, you are enabling him to control you. Get this through your head, he WILL assault you, and/ or your son again! Next time it won't be your hand he breaks, it'll be your skull..or your neck..or your son's neck. :/
 

RickyZ

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Move to your rental and DON'T, in any way shape or form, allow him to find out where you are!!!
 

DiscipleDave

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Thank you for the support here. I was weak as I posted in my last update and I went back. He was begging for the wedding (on Saturday) and wanted me to come home. I did. But we fought. And fought. And fought. So much so that he has insulted me over and over, mainly because I haven't returned the money I took for taxes. I have delayed it. I blamed it on the bank wire being delayed.


well I had my son w me for dinner and he began (10 yrs) calling my fiancé stupid. He is angry at him. So what happened? I told my son to stop. Apologize. My son was still saying things. So my fiancé tries to rub my shoulders and hug me at dinner in a restaurant. He knows that makes my son jealous. My son began elbowing him a little. I told them to stop.

So my fiancé smiles and tells my son that he will take his heart. Grab it w his bare hand and hand it to him.

My son starts crying. And there's more fighting. I was so angry! Then he asked my son if he knew how to say asshole in Spanish. My son said no. So he said "you say it "insert son's name here"

he lsughed it off and said he was joking. But I was livid. I need to disappear ASAP And not marry. How do I do this??? It's his family only. But I am so desperate to get the courage to escape this
Oh my gosh. He called your son an *sshole AND threatened to kill him, and you're STILL willing to be with this psycho?!!! YOU ARE CRAZY.. He's already assaulted you and put you in the ER. Now your son is in danger, and you're enabling it!!! When are you gonna smarten up and leave this guy? When you see your son lying in a casket? For the love of God, get out of this toxic mess NOW!! As far as the money, it IS your money. He doesn't need it. What is more important to you: your son's welfare or your willingness to stay with this jerk? Every time you have contact with him, you are enabling him to control you. Get this through your head, he WILL assault you, and/ or your son again! Next time it won't be your hand he breaks, it'll be your skull..or your neck..or your son's neck. :/

1Co_14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.


Sad, so sad. They don't put in a stop light at a dangerous intersection until someone dies, ignorance!!!

^i^
 

blue_ladybug

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Ignorance is deadly, and so is stupidity.. Going back to an abusive man time after time, especially when he's put YOU in the ER, mangled your hand for life, AND threatened to kill your son, is just plain idiocy. Wake up!!