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Believers should fellowship with each other, and not become isolated islands. There is power in Joint Prayer. There is mutual edification and combined learning of Scripture that can go on. We should learn to be pleasant and polite about slight difference in approach we may have. The Scriptures teach us all. We should love to Praise and Worship the Lord, and offer our bodies a living sacrifice to Him.
"Heb 10:25
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not forsaking our meeting together [as believers for worship and instruction], as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more [faithfully] as you see the day [of Christ’s return] approaching.
"Heb 10:25
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not forsaking our meeting together [as believers for worship and instruction], as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more [faithfully] as you see the day [of Christ’s return] approaching.
C
I fellowshipped at the AOG in Sydney for a year and a half, and I found it a bit of a disaster. If I could use an analogy, the behaviour I experienced from the people that had been members for years was akin to what you would expect from a new born that had just crossed the Red Sea. They conducted a formalised church service which I find difficult to believe is beneficial to anyone unless the participants exude godly character in their lives generally. There wasn't much of that evident in that fellowship in my experience. The worship services there were certainly upbeat, but that didn't seem to be helping the vast majority of participants to mature spiritually ie develop godly character. It was very sad to see. For my own safety sake and spiritual welfare, I left the AOG.
C
When I became a Christian, Jesus automatically gave me membership to His church, similarly as He does for others that have had their spirit brought to life. After a while I came to understand through the Holy Spirit's counsel that denominations cannot have been inspired by God, and indeed they go against His definition of one body, one church.
I'm still involved in that church, and I suspect there are some members of CC that are also members of it. We don't necessarily meet together, although we would like to. It's part of the cost of following Jesus only.
I'm still involved in that church, and I suspect there are some members of CC that are also members of it. We don't necessarily meet together, although we would like to. It's part of the cost of following Jesus only.
During the Colonial days in America (1600-1800) the non-denominational members of society were known as Deists.
It doesn't mean that they were Atheists by any stretch of the imagination or that the principles and Morals taught by scriptures were not strictly adhered to.
Benjamin Franklin was just such a Deist. But the first lines in his Autobiography give full weight and credit to God in a most sincere way.
It doesn't mean that they were Atheists by any stretch of the imagination or that the principles and Morals taught by scriptures were not strictly adhered to.
Benjamin Franklin was just such a Deist. But the first lines in his Autobiography give full weight and credit to God in a most sincere way.
We are to walk our own walk. Took me years to understand I do not have to conform to men's ideas of how I should serve the Lord. I have made a few uncomfortable by this idea and even mad. That is not God but their crazy narcissistic way. Example: I had a woman come up at the ending of a church service and ask me to come up and get prayer. I said" No I am sorry I do not feel led of God to go up for prayer. Her mouth dropped in amazement. To her it was a ritual to ask new people to come up and get prayer. It was not the Holy Spirit leading her. I have set it in my life to walk my walk the way God wants me too. I have learned even if I do not agree with what someone is doing is to give it to God and move on.
My walk and strength in God makes some men even uncomfortable. Because I do not waiver and cannot be coheresed into changing for man. But I go to church for fellowship and to see things maybe thru a new perspective. But if it bothers you I understand.
My walk and strength in God makes some men even uncomfortable. Because I do not waiver and cannot be coheresed into changing for man. But I go to church for fellowship and to see things maybe thru a new perspective. But if it bothers you I understand.
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It doesn't bother me...
But then again I sit on the rim of the pail of orthodoxy in a denomination that has the broadest pail of them all...the SBC churches.
However I get called out a lot because I don't carry my Bible with me to church but use my cell phone. (It has bibles on it if I cared to look) but usually I don't need to. I have great recall abilities to quote scriptures and lessons from scriptures off the top of my head. Which annoys the stew out of some people.
Especially when they start in on the myths and hold extra-biblical works in higher esteem than scriptures that defy God's character. God is omniscience omnipotent and Sovereign. No surprise parties for God....
Which I agree infuriates people.
But then again I sit on the rim of the pail of orthodoxy in a denomination that has the broadest pail of them all...the SBC churches.
However I get called out a lot because I don't carry my Bible with me to church but use my cell phone. (It has bibles on it if I cared to look) but usually I don't need to. I have great recall abilities to quote scriptures and lessons from scriptures off the top of my head. Which annoys the stew out of some people.
Especially when they start in on the myths and hold extra-biblical works in higher esteem than scriptures that defy God's character. God is omniscience omnipotent and Sovereign. No surprise parties for God....
Which I agree infuriates people.
You have to have a name for tax and property laws and many other legal reasons. A corporate identity for controlling assets, property and bank account. You need this to be controlled by a group of people from the church and not one pastor. Therefore the corporate identity. I know I am being obvious but I am making a point that a name is necessary. You can't really get around it.
Maybe "A Church in XYZ Town" and the sign outside could say "A Church in XYZ Town meets here" Not a bad idea. I kind of like it.
I would want people to find us if they did a Google search for "Churches near me"
The need to be easy to find for those who are seeking God is a top priority necessity. So no matter how much you try to make it appear nameless and organic and not denominationally connected, you still end up with a name. "A Local Church Fellowship" will still be a name. People will call you LCF. LOL.
Maybe "A Church in XYZ Town" and the sign outside could say "A Church in XYZ Town meets here" Not a bad idea. I kind of like it.
I would want people to find us if they did a Google search for "Churches near me"
The need to be easy to find for those who are seeking God is a top priority necessity. So no matter how much you try to make it appear nameless and organic and not denominationally connected, you still end up with a name. "A Local Church Fellowship" will still be a name. People will call you LCF. LOL.
You are correct. Throughout Biblical/Salvation history, both Old and New Testament, it was never a case for salvation sufficiency of the credo, 'Just God and Me or Just Jesus and Me'. NEVER.
In fact there was always formal worship as God's people/family, in temples or synagogues, or in Churches. In fact, it was Jesus Himself who founded His Church. So Jesus thought that the Church is important.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT??????????? IF JESUS THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT, SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS. read the Book of Acts of the New Testament and you'll see that the Apostles and Jesus' Disciples were establishing Christ's Church, places of community and worship, throughout the known world.
In fact there was always formal worship as God's people/family, in temples or synagogues, or in Churches. In fact, it was Jesus Himself who founded His Church. So Jesus thought that the Church is important.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT??????????? IF JESUS THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT, SO DO I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS. read the Book of Acts of the New Testament and you'll see that the Apostles and Jesus' Disciples were establishing Christ's Church, places of community and worship, throughout the known world.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...h-brooms-in-bethlehems-church-of-the-nativity
Fighting is a Christian thing to do....
Fighting is a Christian thing to do....
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My experience in the AG in America is that no two churches are alike. They each have their own culture based on the people and the leadership of that church. A bad experience in one AG church would never equate to a judgment on AG churches elsewhere.
The trend is moving toward the modernization of their buildings being just meeting places and all the traditional decorations inherited from a long history of churches in America are fading away. The majority of AG churches are dropping the name from their signage and literature.
It is common for people to be involved in an AG church for years and not realize it was an AG church. They would tell you it was nondenominational. Because it is. Which is why they can't tell it was associate with the AG.
Most non denominational churches of size start to organize with other non denominational organizations so that they can contribute to world evangelism with a group that they can verify is teaching truth and not error and who are actually getting the job done in planting non denominational churches that are reaching the communities where they are planted. When this happens they have in effect done the same thing that the AG is doing.
So of all the churches out there to explore the AG offers that non denominational feel and culture while also providing a huge worldwide array of open doors of opportunities for those who feel called to fulltime ministry.
We can stop reinventing the wheel with one individual church trying to do things that someone else is already doing a great job of and join them in those successful efforts and get the world evangelized in our lifetime.
The trend is moving toward the modernization of their buildings being just meeting places and all the traditional decorations inherited from a long history of churches in America are fading away. The majority of AG churches are dropping the name from their signage and literature.
It is common for people to be involved in an AG church for years and not realize it was an AG church. They would tell you it was nondenominational. Because it is. Which is why they can't tell it was associate with the AG.
Most non denominational churches of size start to organize with other non denominational organizations so that they can contribute to world evangelism with a group that they can verify is teaching truth and not error and who are actually getting the job done in planting non denominational churches that are reaching the communities where they are planted. When this happens they have in effect done the same thing that the AG is doing.
So of all the churches out there to explore the AG offers that non denominational feel and culture while also providing a huge worldwide array of open doors of opportunities for those who feel called to fulltime ministry.
We can stop reinventing the wheel with one individual church trying to do things that someone else is already doing a great job of and join them in those successful efforts and get the world evangelized in our lifetime.
Absolutely, sects and divisions have ravaged Christ's body; and things are too formalized. Those of us who feel this way will have to take back the simpler ways; the religious institutions will definitely not change for us.
What do you consider repetitive religious observances? Are there any repetitive observances you would consider worthy of maintaining?
Absolutely, this should be the goal. Not seeking signs & wonders; not chasing after wealth; not having to be the most theologically "correct"; but simply seeking His kingdom and His righteousness.
I've heard people say this as well. They attend or support churches they don't agree with because they think that's where God wants them.
It's time to start forging a better way; the old way is hopelessly lost. I would encourage everyone to talk to people about this every chance you get.
What do you consider repetitive religious observances? Are there any repetitive observances you would consider worthy of maintaining?
Absolutely, this should be the goal. Not seeking signs & wonders; not chasing after wealth; not having to be the most theologically "correct"; but simply seeking His kingdom and His righteousness.
I've heard people say this as well. They attend or support churches they don't agree with because they think that's where God wants them.
It's time to start forging a better way; the old way is hopelessly lost. I would encourage everyone to talk to people about this every chance you get.
C
Yes, I agree.
And the other part to this is, are we applying the teaching/learning we are getting from each other when we meet, into our daily lifestyles. Are we encouraging each other to do this. Sometimes I felt I was being lulled into a false sense that as long as I was attending all these formalised religious meetups, I was doing/living the Christian Way.
And the other part to this is, are we applying the teaching/learning we are getting from each other when we meet, into our daily lifestyles. Are we encouraging each other to do this. Sometimes I felt I was being lulled into a false sense that as long as I was attending all these formalised religious meetups, I was doing/living the Christian Way.