Can't talk to my Boyfriend about Jesus-/really struggling in my own relationship

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Anneliese

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But honestly, I find it personally draining talking to logical people(especially my brother!) about God. Because God is bigger than just logic, it also requires faith.. which can not be quantify... That I know anyway.
But I'll definitely be thinking about you guys in my prays :)
 
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But honestly, I find it personally draining talking to logical people(especially my brother!) about God. Because God is bigger than just logic, it also requires faith.. which can not be quantify... That I know anyway.
Why do we tend to belive the news spread online and on TV and why we are hard to believe the Gospel? Simple! Becasue the Good Needs demands us a convertion, a cahnge of mind and a new way of living (it has its conditions to receive those blessings) and, those news spread on TV broadcast do not change life, or habits: There´s no commitment and, since it normally requieres FAITH, an abstract thing that has nothing to be proved, we´re not challanged, unless GOD intervenes to help our normal lack of it.

Joh 4:48 Then Jesus said to him, "Unless you people see signs and wonders, you will by no means believe."

Mark 16:20 And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

Logic demands signs and wonders, but He said it in advance:

Luk 11:29 Now as the crowds gathered even more, He began to say, "This generation is evil. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet.

Because He also said: Luk 16:31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded should one rise from the dead.' "
 
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Anneliese

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Why do we tend to belive the news spread online and on TV and why we are hard to believe the Gospel? Simple! Becasue the Good Needs demands us a convertion, a cahnge of mind and a new way of living (it has its conditions to receive those blessings) and, those news spread on TV broadcast do not change life, or habits: There´s no commitment and, since it normally requieres FAITH, an abstract thing that has nothing to be proved, we´re not challanged, unless GOD intervenes to help our normal lack of it.

Joh 4:48 Then Jesus said to him, "Unless you people see signs and wonders, you will by no means believe."

Mark 16:20 And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

Logic demands signs and wonders, but He said it in advance:

Luk 11:29 Now as the crowds gathered even more, He began to say, "This generation is evil. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet.

Because He also said: Luk 16:31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded should one rise from the dead.' "
Good point secularhermit. :)
 
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Hmm!

I also needed big magnifying glasses to see that truth hidden by faith.
 

Dan58

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Try not to blame God for your troubles, He's not looking to zap anyone. Christians aren't spared from everyday struggles, its just part of life. And imo, love is logical, but our feelings aren't always reasonable or right. Guys tend to look at things logically because everything is easier understood in black & white. So I suppose that you can talk to your boyfriend about Jesus, but you just prefer a more touchy feely conversation?
 

JFSurvivor

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Try not to blame God for your troubles, He's not looking to zap anyone. Christians aren't spared from everyday struggles, its just part of life. And imo, love is logical, but our feelings aren't always reasonable or right. Guys tend to look at things logically because everything is easier understood in black & white. So I suppose that you can talk to your boyfriend about Jesus, but you just prefer a more touchy feely conversation?
eh...kinda....also my problems...I wouldn't call them every day problems. I would call them like BIG PROBLEMS but I get your point. Anyway I know in my head that God was not the cause for my misery but my heart doesn't really know that all that well. I know what I'm supposed to believe about God and all that stuff but when it comes to praying for stuff sometimes I get scared that God will take away my happiness. I know in my head that that isn't right but there is still that fear...
 
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mystikmind

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eh...kinda....also my problems...I wouldn't call them every day problems. I would call them like BIG PROBLEMS but I get your point. Anyway I know in my head that God was not the cause for my misery but my heart doesn't really know that all that well. I know what I'm supposed to believe about God and all that stuff but when it comes to praying for stuff sometimes I get scared that God will take away my happiness. I know in my head that that isn't right but there is still that fear...
Gosh, i know all these feelings so well! and yes, it is true how you can believe one thing in your head and believe something totally different in your heart..... and sometimes when your heart believes something wrong, it is so very difficult to change.

I struggled most of my life with a deep seated belief in my heart that i am not a good person, and i did not even realize it!
Only this year with my divorce, did i decide to take a good look at myself and seek the help and wisdom i needed to learn all these things.... and what is most amazing, my whole life God has been silent, then all of a sudden in my darkest hours going through the separation, God spoke to me,,,, and i have to say, that impacted me deeply, because although i always believed in God in my head, i don't think i truly believed it fully in my heart, then God spoke to me and my heart cannot deny and WOW!

And it's like, all my life i hear all these stories people tell.... "God spoke to me this and God spoke to me that, that blah blah" and i'm like "yea yea, yawn". And now here i am talking as those people did! lol But honestly, God is really real!!
 
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Lol ok lemme clarify: my boyfriend is a Christian. He's learning scripture and is on fire for God. I can't talk to him because when he says stuff like "you need to use logic when telling people about Jesus" I hear, "love isn't important" and that is due to...my life so far. My head knows all the right stuff but my heart doesn't. So yeah.
Perhaps we've found the problem.......

Romans 10:8-10 (KJV) [SUP]8 [/SUP]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; [SUP]9 [/SUP]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I suggest you can't solve the problem with your BF because he's NOT the problem..... you are. Your unhappiness may be due simply because you don't have a real relationship with Christ. If this is true, then your boyfriend could be your god, because he's the only one you have a real relationship with.

Sounds crazy, right? But you don't have a problem with him until God is brought into the picture.
 

Angela53510

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Don't listen to the nay sayers in this thread. They are just old curmudgeons.

I know you love Jesus. What you need to remember, is that God uses us in different ways. So for your boyfriend, witnessing is all about the mind. Logic.

But not everyone is going to be reached through just that approach. Some people need a passionate testimony. Others need Bible verses lovingly given. And some people need a LOT of people, using a LOT of approaches and a LOT of prayer.

Tell your boyfriend to continue doing what God has directed him to do when sharing the gospel. But tell him that the Holy Spirit has given you a different way - to share God's love. Maybe have some verses like the following one, which was very important in me getting saved.

"For God demonstrates his own love towards us in this, that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

"For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16


Tell you bf there is no one right way to witness. Instead, we share as the Holy Spirit moves us to do. And let him do his thing, and you do yours.

Oh, and stop reading into what he says! Just accept it at face value, instead of trying to make it into something it is not.
 

JFSurvivor

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Don't listen to the nay sayers in this thread. They are just old curmudgeons.

I know you love Jesus. What you need to remember, is that God uses us in different ways. So for your boyfriend, witnessing is all about the mind. Logic.

But not everyone is going to be reached through just that approach. Some people need a passionate testimony. Others need Bible verses lovingly given. And some people need a LOT of people, using a LOT of approaches and a LOT of prayer.

Tell your boyfriend to continue doing what God has directed him to do when sharing the gospel. But tell him that the Holy Spirit has given you a different way - to share God's love. Maybe have some verses like the following one, which was very important in me getting saved.

"For God demonstrates his own love towards us in this, that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

"For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16


Tell you bf there is no one right way to witness. Instead, we share as the Holy Spirit moves us to do. And let him do his thing, and you do yours.

Oh, and stop reading into what he says! Just accept it at face value, instead of trying to make it into something it is not.
Hehehe thanks! :)
 
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IF boyfriend doesn't love Jesus, he should not be your boyfriend.

As far as Logic - logic comes from a source - God - without God there is no logic - if the Bible wasn't true, logic would not exist