Does Jesus agree with racism?

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zeroturbulence said:
No, or as they say in spanish... No. :)

Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him. - 1 John 3:15 NIV

Hi Rachel! :D God bless you.
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I know there aren't two heavens,just wondering, because racists maybe think there are two. LOL

btw..Hi Gabe :D God Bless you too!
 
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Jesus wouldnt and still doesnt agree with racisim...

If you are referring to derogetery terms from whites to blacks...in particular...

i dont know if you have consdiered this when asking..but...Jesus was born in the middleast, there is a more than good chance that he was a lovely tanned colour :) ..just if its never crossed your mind...might be something to think about :)

God Bless ^^
 
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Kathleen said:
Jesus wouldnt and still doesnt agree with racisim...

If you are referring to derogetery terms from whites to blacks...in particular...

i dont know if you have consdiered this when asking..but...Jesus was born in the middleast, there is a more than good chance that he was a lovely tanned colour :) ..just if its never crossed your mind...might be something to think about :)

God Bless ^^
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Hi Kathleen. That is a popular concept that many people believe, but Jesus was a jew from Isreal, so he would look like an Isrealite (light skin, dark hair, caucasion features). Even more so, he was a Jewish rabbi so he had a long beard and at least shoulder length hair, so we can rest assured he looks a lot like the images we usually see of him. :)
 
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Rachel777 said:
I know there aren't two heavens,just wondering, because racists maybe think there are two. LOL

btw..Hi Gabe :D God Bless you too!
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Rachel, I really hope that you or someone close to you hasn't been the target of racism. I had to deal with that when I was growing up and its the one thing that makes me really angry, so if something did happen, I am very sorry it had to happen to you or someone else.
 
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My grandparents grew up during the times of segregation. They witnessed both races do/say horrible things to each other, I'm sure. I think because of the times they grew up in, they are all to some extent racist; that hurts to admit because my grandmother is a wonderful woman, the sweetest person I've ever known. She would never say hateful words towards anyone of ANY race, but it's there all the same, every time an African American is in the same room- my grandmother becomes visibly uncomfortable, much as she may try to hide it.

But I think that's what it comes down to- people will always have their prejudices, their racism, their hatred to some extent- but instead of letting it engulf them and eat away at them, they should fight it within themselves and see if they can't learn to simply love like Jesus loves us.
 
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God created all of people in the land and He first loved us before when yet wasn't Brits, Japaneses, Russians so on.
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins(1st John 4:10) Racism is invention Devil, Our Creator doesn't look at the outward appearance.
The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." (1st Samuel 16:7) Consequently, it's impossible to be a follower of Christ and be a racist.
May God greatly bless you, Rachel777.
 
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zeroturbulence said:
Rachel, I really hope that you or someone close to you hasn't been the target of racism. I had to deal with that when I was growing up and its the one thing that makes me really angry, so if something did happen, I am very sorry it had to happen to you or someone else.
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Thanks God I've had no experience with racism. I made this thread becuase it is something that I've seen so many times before. (but no that happened to me) ^^
 
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Wow! Really?!? Sharp, honestly - no offense intended, but as much as an awesome dude that you are, I'm surprised by that, not that your comment is incorrect but there is a better way.

Quick history lesson...In December 2005, thousands of Australians held up the national flag and chanted "Aussie Pride" while chasing down and attacking anyone who looked remotely middle eastern. The Cronulla Beach Riots didn't show love. It showed hatred, intolerance and racism. We can not wind back the clock. But we can learn from our mistakes and change the way we approach things.

Scripture backs this up: Jesus said in Matthew 22: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself'. In Proverbs 6 it says: "There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that he detests...someone who sows discord among brothers" is one of those things. James 2:4 says: Have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Apologies if I have brought up something people would rather forget. But my point here is that I believe Jesus doesnt support Racism. Jesus supports love and treating each other with kindness. My final word is a quote from Jesus: "The way that you treat the least of these is the way that you treat me".
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The Cronulla riots didn't just happen for no reason.

There was a reason for it. Ethnic tension. The reason for that is that people of one culture/background/religion were imposed on another, without their consent. The reaction spilled over into violence which was not good, but it was done in response to provocation, not just outright racism.

When did the Australian public ever consent on a large scale to multiculturalism? Never. We hate it. Its unnecessary and needlessly provocative. Please note, multiculturalism is different to multiracialism.

I acknowledge that the bible says to respect the sojourner, and look after the poor and needy, but where does it ever say that bringing millions of people in from other countries is a good idea? Our culture is eroding and we are being swamped by other cultures. We are not part of Asia and never will be.

Wake up.
 
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CrimsonFlames said:
Wow., why doesnt this surprise me that you're an aussie? You and your fellow thinkers bring shame upon this country

I see you practice hypocrisy and double standards too or you'd have packed up and moved back to england or where-ever right?

I could quote the bible to correct you but I dont think its needed., you know you're in the wrong
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dude

what are you even talking about? you're not making any sense.

when did i ever say people should be sent back to other countries. that's the whole point. people shouldn't change countries. globalisation is ridiculous.

I'd like you to quote from the bible to correct me, about what I've said, not about what I haven't said.

As soon as someone questions the merits of multiculturalism, people are so quick to play the race card!!!!
 
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Bro,

I don't condemn you for your beliefs regarding multiculturalism (as long as you don't act out sinfully) but you have to understand Christianity is a religion open to all humanity that counts one out of every three people on earth among its members.

Christendom encompasses a greater area of land than that of any other religious territory. In terms of both population and geography, Christianity is the world's largest religion.

As such, Christianity contains a great diversity, and has followers from a wide range of ethnicities, nationalities, and cultures.

Both Europeans and non-Hispanic Whites are now shrinking minorities in the Church, though still comprise the most powerful leadership roles, but demographically a time is coming when that too may change should Jesus tarry.

Are you sure you aren't really just against illegal immigration and allowing Muslims to immigrate enmasse to Christianized nations (which is a political matter)?

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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
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AgeofKnowledge said:
Are you sure you aren't really just against illegal immigration and allowing Muslims to immigrate enmasse to Christianized nations (which is a political matter)?
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I'm definitely against both of these concepts.

But I'm also against the idea that my government (and many western governments) allow millions of people to swamp us with their many and varying cultures, without insisting that they leave their own culture at the door and integrate.

I don't go into someone else's house and start moving the furniture around. You go on to someone else's turf, you do it on their terms. But I'll go one step futher and say that this whole problem can be avoided by avoiding the creation of hetereogeneous societies in the first place.

I understand that Christianity transcends boundaries; it always has. But there's no reason for large-scale mixing of people.
 
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I actually agree with the aspects of your post Sharp that argue a reasonable political view (e.g. immigration that benefits your country/anti-illegal immigration, proper integration of immigrants, etc...).

The race aspect (and I'm not calling you a racist because are not asserting a superiority of one race over another but rather taking what is called a 'race realism' position); however, just isn't a part of New Testament Christianity though.

But I'm glad you're a Christian.

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I'm definitely against both of these concepts.

But I'm also against the idea that my government (and many western governments) allow millions of people to swamp us with their many and varying cultures, without insisting that they leave their own culture at the door and integrate.

I don't go into someone else's house and start moving the furniture around. You go on to someone else's turf, you do it on their terms. But I'll go one step futher and say that this whole problem can be avoided by avoiding the creation of hetereogeneous societies in the first place.

I understand that Christianity transcends boundaries; it always has. But there's no reason for large-scale mixing of people.
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AgeofKnowledge said:
The race aspect (and I'm not calling you a racist because are not asserting a superiority of one race over another but rather taking what is called a 'race realism' position); however, just isn't a part of New Testament Christianity though.
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I agree. But its not contrary to the new testament either.



I have many friends of all different backgrounds, and I myself am a hybrid.
 
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JESUS was with the creation of Man, Gender, Race, etc. etc.

So what was there that he is to AGREE wth? ;)
 
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Rachel777 said:
Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
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I don't know how I missed this thread the first time around, and the person that started the thread is no longer with us, apparently. Yes, obviously he doesn't, and I'm not aware there are two heavens, one for racists and one for everybody else. A world full of racists would be an interesting place, since it would be filled with people of different races.

Meanwhile, we Republicans do get tired of Democrats calling us racists.
 
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