Gay Marriage

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Just to be clear, the aggregate of the evidence you have that you were "born homosexual" consists solely of a subjective assertion that you've lost or never had the ability to have sex with a woman?
Knowing ones own sex is objective, not subjective.
 
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Mitspa

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Then I must ask, if God made you as a heterosexual, how are you able to have sex with your wife? Did you not lust for her?
Im not married..and I don't allow my lust to control me, by Gods grace and His Spirit I have self-control...do have the Holy spirit?
 
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Mitspa

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There are thousands of interpretations of the Bible are there not?
No ...and there is no debate about this issue in regards to what the bible says.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'll show you that verse when you show me the verse that says God didn't create down syndrome babies. Did God make a mistake in creating me?

No God did not make a mistake in creating you. And we're not talking about down syndrome.I asked you first to give me a verse.I'd appreciate the answer if you are able to give it.
 
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It makes a difference because a heterosexual is accepted but a homosexual is not. Yet, Christians will claim to love the sinner but not the sin. But how am I not to "sin" by having sex with my husband if I am not to reject how God made me? Can you imagine rejecting how God made you and your sexuality? Think about that for a minute.
Okay. Well in that case, I'll tell you then. I once considered myself "bi" (though I was more comfortable leaving "sexual" off the title since I wasn't having sex, but for all intents and purposes, "bisexual"). And what I said still stands. Heterosexuality is still not a sin. Homosexuality still is. It was when I was bi, and it still is now.

I can certainly imagine rejecting how God made me, because it was once a reality for me. But I wouldn't want to go back to that, being bi. I'm sorry, but you won't be working your pathos on me. The fundamental problem a lot of gay people face is believing they were born that way. Because on one hand, while it relieves fear that the person was created wrong, it creates a crisis where that person genuinely believes that they were made for the purpose of committing what their own Creator deems an abominable sin, powerless to stop themselves. That robs the person of their own agency and will. As if they were created to be an abomination, and why would God create anyone to be an abomination? That would just be cruel.

It just seems to me like in this age of self-empowerment and whatnot, that people (gay or otherwise) wouldn't resort to "I can't help it" so readily.
 
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Im not married..and I don't allow my lust to control me, by Gods grace and His Spirit I have self-control...do have the Holy spirit?
Lust is what brings a man and a woman together. You lust after her initially and then you marry. Come on, this is common knowledge.
 
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I'll show you that verse when you show me the verse that says God didn't create down syndrome babies. Did God make a mistake in creating me?
No He made you like the rest of us..and you will have to answer to Him just like the rest of us.
 
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No ...and there is no debate about this issue in regards to what the bible says.
No, there aren't different interpretations of the Bible? Wow, now you're being blatantly dishonest, lol.
 
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Lust is what brings a man and a woman together. You lust after her initially and then you marry. Come on, this is common knowledge.
There is no sin in desiring your wife according to Gods will...so what point do you think that makes?
 
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Okay. Well in that case, I'll tell you then. I once considered myself "bi" (though I was more comfortable leaving "sexual" off the title since I wasn't having sex, but for all intents and purposes, "bisexual"). And what I said still stands. Heterosexuality is still not a sin. Homosexuality still is. It was when I was bi, and it still is now.
But you weren't born bi right? There's a difference.
 
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God didn't create down syndrome babies. Here's the bible passage from Genesis 1:26-31:

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good..."

Downs Syndrome is a scientifically proven genetic negative deviation away from what God created occurring as a result of microevolution after the fall of mankind. It is; however, not a sin.

Unfortunately for your assertion with respect to homosexuality, there is no such scientifically proven genetic negative deviation away from what God created. And, of course, homosexual immorality is definitely sin.


I'll show you that verse when you show me the verse that says God didn't create down syndrome babies. Did God make a mistake in creating me?
 
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Mitspa

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No, there aren't different interpretations of the Bible? Wow, now you're being blatantly dishonest, lol.
Not on this issue, its very clear in the scriptures that this is a sin and unacceptable to God.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'll show you that verse when you show me the verse that says God didn't create down syndrome babies. Did God make a mistake in creating me?

Btw God didn't create down syndrome babies.The world was perfect that God created.Man fell and sin and disease came into the world.Now Im waiting for your answer.
 
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There is no sin in desiring your wife according to Gods will...so what point do you think that makes?
It makes that point that God made you that way. You lust for your wife and then you marry. And God made me this way. I lust for my husband and then I marry.
 
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Btw God didn't create down syndrome babies.The world was perfect that God created.Man fell and sin and disease came into the world.Now Im waiting for your answer.
So God doesn't make babies. Then why do we say "Oh look at what God brought into the world?" or refer to God's gift when referring to our children?
 
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Mitspa

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Exactly. To that, we agree.
Well it will be a fearful thing to stand before Him and not know that you have submitting to Him...may God have mercy on you.
 
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It makes that point that God made you that way. You lust for your wife and then you marry. And God made me this way. I lust for my husband and then I marry.
Not on this issue, its very clear in the scriptures that this is a sin and unacceptable to God.
Actually, it is not clear. That's why I'm accepted in my church and (probably) not in yours.
 
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So God doesn't make babies. Then why do we say "Oh look at what God brought into the world?" or refer to God's gift when referring to our children?
No men and women do that :)
 
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Well it will be a fearful thing to stand before Him and not know that you have submitting to Him...may God have mercy on you.
Lol, you're quite pompous and condescending.