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Lord please don't allow me to be banned for this.
Ok now since I am all prayed up, I was saved on Christian Metal. Death Metal is just a subgenre of metal. Look at Stryper. Man they're on fire for Christ some 30 years later after arriving. RED I have seen them in concert give praise to God. Its not about the guitar, its not about how the vocalist sings/screams/raps. Its about the lyrics and their personal walk with Christ. I am a Christian screamer. I praise God with the talent he gave me to scream.
I didn't know there was a Christian evalent to death metal. Maybe I should check out. But yeah, I still stand by what I what I said. Not all death and black metal(I still think this one has a lot higher of rate of being satanic than anyother type of metal though.) is satanic. Actually from what I've seen of death metal atleast it tends to be a lot cleaner than other types of metal, but then again I've haven't listened to every death metal band.
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I didn't know there was a Christian evalent to death metal. Maybe I should check out. But yeah, I still stand by what I what I said. Not all death and black metal(I still think this one has a lot higher of rate of being satanic than anyother type of metal though.) is satanic. Actually from what I've seen of death metal atleast it tends to be a lot cleaner than other types of metal, but then again I've haven't listened to every death metal band.
Here's where I get my source from, I am a Christian screamo musician. God called me to be an officer of the Law and also a screamo musician.
I write
I love
I write Love
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Did you even read the post?
I was saying the music is FINE. If it's about praising God, then the kind of music doesn't even matter. The ONLY think that makes music destructive are destructive lyrics. While many songs may come across and angry or depressing, there is much classical instrumental music that has the same effect that I'm sure nobody would oppose.
I have no problem with you listening to that stuffs, even though I don't really care much for screamo myself ~_o lol
I was saying the music is FINE. If it's about praising God, then the kind of music doesn't even matter. The ONLY think that makes music destructive are destructive lyrics. While many songs may come across and angry or depressing, there is much classical instrumental music that has the same effect that I'm sure nobody would oppose.
I have no problem with you listening to that stuffs, even though I don't really care much for screamo myself ~_o lol
Well then here are some comments from pandora
The song is called Face Down its by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Well i can relate to this song..i used to be a bully and pick on weaker people and particularly not good looking people until i got into a fight with a nerdy 12 yr old and got suspended. I learned my lesson and stopped bullying and all that bull
Most guys nor bands really stand up for women like red jumpsuit apparatus seems to be doing in this song. I respect them for this.
Amen, I've had friends that this song describes. They just keep acting like everything will get better but it isn't so here's to them.
Stupid abusive sadistic relationships. I don't care if its verbal, physical or any other kind of abuse, I hate that someone would do that so someone they're supposed to care about, and I hate that the abused one pretends everything is okay and will get better, or convinces themselves that it's their fault. This song definitely speaks to that. Love this song so much <3
Coming from the girl who always looked happy on the outside but was secretly dying inside & who often cried herself to sleep from all the bull she had to take, this song describes me very well. Every time I hear it I feel as if they're singing about me...
I took the abuse, & I cried alone at night when I was alone. But what made me strong & part of who I am today goes to the fact that I dried my own tears, picked myself up, and kept going. So believe me when I say you can pull through. I know
I see no negativity here, but i do see inspiration.
The song is called Face Down its by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Well i can relate to this song..i used to be a bully and pick on weaker people and particularly not good looking people until i got into a fight with a nerdy 12 yr old and got suspended. I learned my lesson and stopped bullying and all that bull
Most guys nor bands really stand up for women like red jumpsuit apparatus seems to be doing in this song. I respect them for this.
Amen, I've had friends that this song describes. They just keep acting like everything will get better but it isn't so here's to them.
Stupid abusive sadistic relationships. I don't care if its verbal, physical or any other kind of abuse, I hate that someone would do that so someone they're supposed to care about, and I hate that the abused one pretends everything is okay and will get better, or convinces themselves that it's their fault. This song definitely speaks to that. Love this song so much <3
Coming from the girl who always looked happy on the outside but was secretly dying inside & who often cried herself to sleep from all the bull she had to take, this song describes me very well. Every time I hear it I feel as if they're singing about me...
I took the abuse, & I cried alone at night when I was alone. But what made me strong & part of who I am today goes to the fact that I dried my own tears, picked myself up, and kept going. So believe me when I say you can pull through. I know
I see no negativity here, but i do see inspiration.
Well id say look a this.
Music and Emotions - Mister Poll
Which type of music does in your opinion evoke positive feelings?
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[TD="class: value"]72% (8)[/TD]
[TH]Rock music[/TH]
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[TD="class: max_bar"]
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[TD="class: value"]54% (6)[/TD]
[TH]Pop music[/TH]
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[TD="class: max_bar"]
[TD="class: value"]18% (2)[/TD]
[TH]Classical music[/TH]
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[TR]
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[TD="class: value"]9% (1)[/TD]
[TH]Techno music[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[TD="class: value"]18% (2)[/TD]
[TH]Hip Hop or Rap music[/TH]
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[TR]
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[/TD]
[TD="class: value"]45% (5)[/TD]
[TH]Metal music
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Music and Emotions - Mister Poll
Which type of music does in your opinion evoke positive feelings?
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[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: value"]72% (8)[/TD]
[TH]Rock music[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: value"]54% (6)[/TD]
[TH]Pop music[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD][TD="class: value"]18% (2)[/TD]
[TH]Classical music[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD][TD="class: value"]9% (1)[/TD]
[TH]Techno music[/TH]
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[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD][TD="class: value"]18% (2)[/TD]
[TH]Hip Hop or Rap music[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: max_bar"]
[/TD]
[TD="class: value"]45% (5)[/TD]
[TH]Metal music
[/TH]
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i think calling any sort of music a sin isn't far different from calling Swahili or German language "sinful" -- it's what is said that matters, not the quality of the intonation. food that tastes bad to one person tastes good to another, and disliking the flavour doesn't mean there is no nutrition, just as candy tastes good but doesn't give you any lasting energy.
the Psalms specifically encouraged using almost every instrument known to the people of the day to be used to praise the Lord (lead in to timbrel solo?). there is certainly no precedent of thought in them that some instruments can't be used for worship - quite the opposite, the Psalms teach that 'everything that has breath' should praise the Lord, even the hills and trees and the whole earth.
the bible doesn't say "this style of music is good' and 'this style of music is bad' -- though many with strong opinions against one kind of music or another will argue that some genre is inherently evil. this isn't supported by scripture. i think the best way to look at this sort of attitude is to consider what the apostles had to teach about meat sacrificed to idols -- a person may argue that rock music is sinful because of what is associated with some secular musicians whose music is similar - though the lyrics & intention of the songwriter may be entirely different.
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.
(1 Corinthians 8:4-13)
some are still so accustomed to living in the flesh that when they hear rock music (for example, but the same goes for any genre), they think of some sinful thing or attitude, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
if you're blessed by some believing musician who plays the most outlandish and obscure noise format imaginable, it is certainly not sin for you, or for the musician through whom God is glorified.
some brother or sister might be offended by the noise though - for them, they should not listen to it, just like someone who can't accept that pork is 'clean' to eat shouldn't be eating it, because their faith is not strong enough to accept it without and you shouldn't play it for them if they can't 'receive it with thanksgiving.' just the same, you shouldn't play it for them, because it will cause contention, or may cause their faith to falter.
now concerning clean or unclean meat, what the apostles taught was sinful wasn't the eating or not eating of it, but falling into legalistically declaring that gentiles had to follow a kosher diet, or be circumcised, or follow some custom given to the Jews. from this we might infer that calling rock music sinful is itself a sin.
if a musician praises God, and the Spirit moves in him, and through his music does the work of God in edifying, encouraging or ministering to others - is it not blasphemy to call this good work of the Spirit, 'the work of Satan' all because he uses an electric guitar, scratches at a turntable or a keyboard with a dubstep effect, he raps or he sings and shouts in a loud scratchy voice?
if God is praised, God is praised. let every created thing praise the LORD!
the Psalms specifically encouraged using almost every instrument known to the people of the day to be used to praise the Lord (lead in to timbrel solo?). there is certainly no precedent of thought in them that some instruments can't be used for worship - quite the opposite, the Psalms teach that 'everything that has breath' should praise the Lord, even the hills and trees and the whole earth.
the bible doesn't say "this style of music is good' and 'this style of music is bad' -- though many with strong opinions against one kind of music or another will argue that some genre is inherently evil. this isn't supported by scripture. i think the best way to look at this sort of attitude is to consider what the apostles had to teach about meat sacrificed to idols -- a person may argue that rock music is sinful because of what is associated with some secular musicians whose music is similar - though the lyrics & intention of the songwriter may be entirely different.
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.
Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.
(1 Corinthians 8:4-13)
some are still so accustomed to living in the flesh that when they hear rock music (for example, but the same goes for any genre), they think of some sinful thing or attitude, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
if you're blessed by some believing musician who plays the most outlandish and obscure noise format imaginable, it is certainly not sin for you, or for the musician through whom God is glorified.
some brother or sister might be offended by the noise though - for them, they should not listen to it, just like someone who can't accept that pork is 'clean' to eat shouldn't be eating it, because their faith is not strong enough to accept it without and you shouldn't play it for them if they can't 'receive it with thanksgiving.' just the same, you shouldn't play it for them, because it will cause contention, or may cause their faith to falter.
now concerning clean or unclean meat, what the apostles taught was sinful wasn't the eating or not eating of it, but falling into legalistically declaring that gentiles had to follow a kosher diet, or be circumcised, or follow some custom given to the Jews. from this we might infer that calling rock music sinful is itself a sin.
if a musician praises God, and the Spirit moves in him, and through his music does the work of God in edifying, encouraging or ministering to others - is it not blasphemy to call this good work of the Spirit, 'the work of Satan' all because he uses an electric guitar, scratches at a turntable or a keyboard with a dubstep effect, he raps or he sings and shouts in a loud scratchy voice?
if God is praised, God is praised. let every created thing praise the LORD!