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Hi Lynn, my aunt was in a Respiritory for 12 weeks.
During the time many patients came and went. Most of them
had lung problems related to smoking. Many had COPD for
example. The staff said the ward probably wasn't necessary if it had
not have been for the smokers.
When checking patients in, one of the first questions asked was if they
smoked.
The saddest thing though was to see them on the ward on oxygen, then nipping outside
for a quick cig before going back on the oxygen.
I spoke to one young nurse who had just started on that ward and was a smoker.
She said she was going to stop and set a date, as being on that ward had really
scared her more than any of the others she had worked on.
Hope you are successful
During the time many patients came and went. Most of them
had lung problems related to smoking. Many had COPD for
example. The staff said the ward probably wasn't necessary if it had
not have been for the smokers.
When checking patients in, one of the first questions asked was if they
smoked.
The saddest thing though was to see them on the ward on oxygen, then nipping outside
for a quick cig before going back on the oxygen.
I spoke to one young nurse who had just started on that ward and was a smoker.
She said she was going to stop and set a date, as being on that ward had really
scared her more than any of the others she had worked on.
Hope you are successful
I think I posted earlier and suggested vapping, which is using Ecig's. Ecigs are a great way of giving up smoking, as you are well aware the major issue with smoking is not the nicotine it is the chemicals in the tobacco. The Royal College of Physicians in the UK have recogmended the use of E-Cigs for giving up smoking. However we do not have the data to know if there are long term risks.
E-Cigs to a degree feel like smoking as you are doing something with your hands and so you satisfy some of the pschylogical aspects of smoking, aswell as providing nicotine which satisfy the physical cravings. Nicotine produces feelings of pleasure and reduces stress and anxiety. Giving up can make you feel anxious, depressed and irritable.
Somewhere you said you roll your own, I hope you use filters.
E-Cigs to a degree feel like smoking as you are doing something with your hands and so you satisfy some of the pschylogical aspects of smoking, aswell as providing nicotine which satisfy the physical cravings. Nicotine produces feelings of pleasure and reduces stress and anxiety. Giving up can make you feel anxious, depressed and irritable.
Somewhere you said you roll your own, I hope you use filters.
Yes nicotine may raise blood sugar and blood pressure but nicotine is relatively innocous, the major risk of heart disease and stroke come from the other chemicals in cigarettes. It is far more important to try and reduce or stop smoking than to give up nicotine. Someone I know who has dilated cardiomyopathy has changed from smoking to e-cigs and his cardiologist was over the moon in the change he had made.
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I was listening. That's where the thought came from. I even wikied the two chemicals in the brain nicotine targets, and thought -- "Well, okay? So I trained my rain to expect that for 40 years. Untraining will take years, and I see no downside to what the nicotine really does. The downside are the carcinogens."
(And RYO is now done with a hand-cranked machine into tubes with filters. Only the really old guys, who have somehow survived this long anyway, don't do filters. I'm not THAT old. lol)
(And RYO is now done with a hand-cranked machine into tubes with filters. Only the really old guys, who have somehow survived this long anyway, don't do filters. I'm not THAT old. lol)
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Hi Lynn, my aunt was in a Respiritory for 12 weeks.
During the time many patients came and went. Most of them
had lung problems related to smoking. Many had COPD for
example. The staff said the ward probably wasn't necessary if it had
not have been for the smokers.
When checking patients in, one of the first questions asked was if they
smoked.
The saddest thing though was to see them on the ward on oxygen, then nipping outside
for a quick cig before going back on the oxygen.
I spoke to one young nurse who had just started on that ward and was a smoker.
She said she was going to stop and set a date, as being on that ward had really
scared her more than any of the others she had worked on.
Hope you are successful
During the time many patients came and went. Most of them
had lung problems related to smoking. Many had COPD for
example. The staff said the ward probably wasn't necessary if it had
not have been for the smokers.
When checking patients in, one of the first questions asked was if they
smoked.
The saddest thing though was to see them on the ward on oxygen, then nipping outside
for a quick cig before going back on the oxygen.
I spoke to one young nurse who had just started on that ward and was a smoker.
She said she was going to stop and set a date, as being on that ward had really
scared her more than any of the others she had worked on.
Hope you are successful
1. Hubby got me to realize death might be a lot slower and more painful (and indignant) then planned.
2. Hubby tried so hard to quit and yet only the heart attack and weeks of withdrawal unaware let him do that, so he really deserves a smoke-free house when he comes home.
3. Staring at a monitor for months on end and finally realizing that one number -- the oxygen flow -- was hitting Danger Zone when hubby started breathing like I do breathe all the time.
And some things happened during those five days that told me it was worth it:
1. I spend one hour every day hacking up what was leftover from yesterday. I stopped doing that on the second day. (I heard it got worse, not better, at first.)
2. I walked down two hallways without clearing my lungs the entire way at day two.
3. I have a bouquet of flowers with mums in it. I forgot mums smell good. I forgot some people can smell flowers from three feet away.
4. They say that there is no fresh air in a city, but I disagree. Real air smells way better than cig smoke. Food smells better. Food taste better!
These may seem obvious to most people, but all these things surprised me. I just assumed my sense of smell and taste were dying. Nope. I am! Somebody has to take care of him when he comes home. He's a good guy and deserves that. I'm volunteering. (He already knew mums smelled good. Wait until he can smell the passionflowers again. lol)
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I would have liked to know how much nicotine I should have been taking in while fighting the habit. I had a two fold plan -- first quite the habit, then quit the nicotine. But since I didn't know what nicotine levels I should have been at to do that successfully, I suspect my nicotine levels were down too much causing me to fight both the habit and the addiction at once.
They know exactly how much pain meds a man of 300+ pounds needs to avoid pain after a heart attack. They have had absolutely no problems figuring out how much pain meds he has needed since then and he has dropped 90+ pounds since then. This amazes me that science has become that accurate. And yet, they haven't bothered to help smokers quit using that same science to give us a fighting chance. It comes down to "just go cold turkey" like, yeah -- no skin off my nose so I don't care.
And those are the same people who have already done a study that says ecigs lead to smoking cigs again? I want the money for those useless studies.
I even know what I'd study -- how fast certain weeds grow in containers. lol
They know exactly how much pain meds a man of 300+ pounds needs to avoid pain after a heart attack. They have had absolutely no problems figuring out how much pain meds he has needed since then and he has dropped 90+ pounds since then. This amazes me that science has become that accurate. And yet, they haven't bothered to help smokers quit using that same science to give us a fighting chance. It comes down to "just go cold turkey" like, yeah -- no skin off my nose so I don't care.
And those are the same people who have already done a study that says ecigs lead to smoking cigs again? I want the money for those useless studies.
I even know what I'd study -- how fast certain weeds grow in containers. lol
I can understand is so important for you to quit, for your health I assume and because you want to...but if it comforts you remember that the cigarettes are just hurting the physical frame, and that what's important is not the state of that frame, or if it smoked, but your soul. Don't beat yourself up. It's just the body (a thing of this world) getting the ill effects. What matters is you stay sweet in the soul for Our Lord! So big hug....
You can do it, I'm sure, maybe a thread to help one another express their thoughts as they go through whatever it is trying to kick them. Just take it away from yourself. Stop it! Just keep Jesus running through your mind, say His name a thousand times if you have to, even if it gives you a head ache talking in your head lol... Just let Him help you, He is strong, we are weak.
