Is being a submissive wife really taboo?

[Sirk]

has absolutely NOTHING to do with biblical authority and the spiritual headship that I am speaking of.

obviously....if there aint no bulb in a lamp...the switch ain't gonna turn it on.
So instead of being a bully about it...why don't you try explaining what it is you're splainin?

 

[Olerica]

This is how things go now? If you say you admire traditional biblical values...your a monster who wants to enslave and degrade women

If you focus on the women's role, of her submitting to her husband, and do not acknowledge the man's role as a husband ( and your commitment to behave in your biblical role), then yes... I think it is viewed as an attempt to be someone who wants to degrade and enslave a woman.

not saying that this is what you are doing...

 

[Mitspa]

obviously....if there aint no bulb in a lamp...the switch ain't gonna turn it on.

wow...I can see the argument for godliness is not something your really interested in...but that's the foundation of the point I have made as it relates to a traditional biblical relationship .... sorry you feel your grand mother was abused ... but that don't change the order and intentions of God.

 

[Sirk]

wow...I can see the argument for godliness is not something your really interested in...but that's the foundation of the point I have made as it relates to a traditional biblical relationship ..... sorry you feel your grand mother was abused ... but that don't change the order and intentions of God.

Nobodies trying to change the order or intentions of the marital relationship.....at least I'm not....so far you haven't stood for anything that I can see.

 

[Tintin]

Mitspa, we're all for loving biblical marriages, but the OP's post doesn't describe a healthy biblical marriage.

 

[Mitspa]

If you focus on the women's role, of her submitting to her husband, and do not acknowledge the man's role as a husband ( and your commitment to the same), then yes... I think it is viewed as an attempt to be someone who wants to degrade and enslave a woman.

Gee... what is the title of this thread? start a thread on the mans role and I will be glad to add my biblical views

 

[Mitspa]

Mitspa, we're all for loving biblical marriages, but the OP's post doesn't describe a healthy biblical marriage.

I have stated (in part) as much, but I also stated that I did find some truth in the OP views...do we all have to agree on every point?

 

[Reborn]

Sure, they have been right occasionally .

They can prove the Earth exists.

Honestly, they can't yet. They need more empirical evidence. That's one nasty delusion they're stuck under. "Out of all the planets in the universe exactly like earth how does our planet act exactly like earth?" Sort of like making a circle and then telling someone it's a maze. lol

Even though they are living on it?



Now you have me wondering?
...........are we on earth?

 

[Mitspa]

Nobodies trying to change the order or intentions of the marital relationship.....at least I'm not....so far you haven't stood for anything that I can see.

Well like I said...I have tried to represent the more traditional biblical viewpoint....if you did not see that in my post, Im sorry that you failed to understand.

 

[Sirk]

wow...I can see the argument for godliness is not something your really interested in...but that's the foundation of the point I have made as it relates to a traditional biblical relationship .... sorry you feel your grand mother was abused ... but that don't change the order and intentions of God.

You said abused....nowhere in anything I wrote did I say the word.....abuse. Why would you add something to what I said?

 

[Sirk]

Well like I said...I have tried to represent the more traditional biblical viewpoint....if you did not see that in my post, Im sorry that you failed to understand.

And what is the "traditional biblical viewpoint"?

 

[Jeff_56]

you're carrying on posting with carnal men.

look what happened to joseph in the OT. try to find anything in joseph that yahweh considered sinful. (i don't think you'll ever find it)
look at all or practically all the examples of faith yahweh breathed in, and breathed the writers to put in the OT and the NT. the men, the women, the prophets, the apostles,

many of them prisoners. many slaves. men and women of faith ("sawn asunder" (i.e. painful))

do not focus on the ideas of carnal men(opposed to yahweh).

rather focus on yahweh. seek his face. be hungry for FOR HIM, thirsty for HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, always seeking HIS WORD (in person, in spirit, in prayer continually).

men (and women) just keep making fools of themselves when they go by society standards, or man's or woman's standard, or any 'worldly'/ or emotional/ or 'feelings' standard of any kind.

seek yahweh's standard. yahweh's word. yahweh's way. directly from yahweh, by grace in yahshua.

if you can, if yahweh permits, that is the only way someone may know the truth --
as yahshua said plainly,
as yochanan the immerser said plainly,
and yahweh's word (SCRIPTURE) says plainly.

yahweh made all things simple , HIS WORD is pure and true. men messed it all up(and still do).

If you focus on the women's role, of her submitting to her husband, and do not acknowledge the man's role as a husband ........

 

[Tintin]

I have stated (in part) as much, but I also stated that I did find some truth in the OP views...do we all have to agree on every point?

There is some truth in the OP's post, sure. But some truth only helps the medicine go down.

 

[Mitspa]

You said abused....nowhere in anything I wrote did I say the word.....abuse. Why would you add something to what I said?

Your post....

My grandpa was a gruff mennonite farmer raised by a gruff mennonite farmer made by a gruff old mennonite farmer....if you get the picture? Children were live stock that could work...My mom never knew how a man should treat her and in a lot of ways...still doesn't. She certainly never learned that she is to be valued.

Sorry if I misunderstood what you was trying to represent?

 

[Sirk]

Your post....

My grandpa was a gruff mennonite farmer raised by a gruff mennonite farmer made by a gruff old mennonite farmer....if you get the picture? Children were live stock that could work...My mom never knew how a man should treat her and in a lot of ways...still doesn't. She certainly never learned that she is to be valued.

Sorry if I misunderstood what you was trying to represent?

Still no mention of abuse....it was what it was.

 

[Mitspa]

There is some truth in the OP's post, sure. But some truth only helps the medicine go down.

Well like many things on this forum...we often agree with parts of things folks say and disagree with other parts...

 

[Mitspa]

Still no mention of abuse....it was what it was.

well im sorry, how ever you decide to define it, but it don't change the truth of God.

 

[Sirk]

well im sorry, how ever you decide to define it, but it don't change the truth of God.

Well instead of giving it lip service why don't you say what this truth is?

 

[Mitspa]

And what is the "traditional biblical viewpoint"?

Do you want me to post scripture? Or speak in general terms?

 

[Olerica]

Gee... what is the title of this thread? start a thread on the mans role and I will be glad to add my biblical views

but the response to the original post is that there is a balance. What the original premise, with clarification by the original poster, is that the definition as defined is not taboo, but also not biblical as described. Our original poster seems to, by her own posts, indicate she has a DOM/sub relationship with her husband and views him on par with God... Views him on the same level as God in her life. This part is not biblical. This part is the bit that is troubling.

also, the answer is in the balance, not that SHE submit fully to her husband solely, but that he regards her the same way Christ regards the church and gives himself up for her.