Is being a submissive wife really taboo?

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Mitspa

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I think i understand you woman of God. What men want from their wives is RESPECT which you have shown much.
Even Sarah called her husband Master or Lord (1Pet3.5-6). You are wise in doing so . Jesus is your Lord(ruler over all even your husband). Yet this same Jesus expects you to submit to your husband. I wish you were my wife or hope i can receive a wife from the lord like you . I will honour her much and loveher the more for her submission unto me as she would do it because of her Love for God . Blessed are you and blessed is your husband because of you. Most women will not understand what you are saying . Submission is not a bad thing it is unto the Lord Jesus Christ - for he said to submit as he instructs men to Love their wives. Men and Women are equals yet it is God who gave man the authority. God Bless. This is so surreal.
Dude ..I defended her based on her early post as well...then she seemed to be taking this submission stuff into a unbiblical and unhealthy place....perverted sex! so better be careful :)
 

MarcR

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I love how the men in here who labelled ME (erroneously) have no ability to actually apologize for

1) Their inability to see through the OP's manipulative post AND
2) Their false statements about me and my motives.

The fact that I recognized and made transparent her motives doesn't make me a bad person. I was kind and fair in my dealings with her.

But the pride involved in the inability to apologize for clearly false statements about me is interesting...as is the continuing finagling to put yourself in the right and excuse your behavior.

What makes you think that this is about you and SSW? This is about using unwarrented labels of any kind against anyone. It is about presumptiveness amd nastiness that is far to prevelent on the forum.
 
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What makes you think that this is about you and SSW? This is about using unwarrented labels of any kind against anyone. It is about presumptiveness amd nastiness that is far to prevelent on the forum.
1. The label wasn't unwarranted. It was necessary to understanding the true motive of the post.
2. The label wasn't presumptive. It was based on the very clear evidence she provided within all of her first post.
3. I was never nasty to the poster in anything I said.

However, lots of posters (including yourself) were rather nasty to me.

The irony of this is quite amusing.
 
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WolfGaming

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*sighs* I tried to hide this post with other posts I failed I guess. ):
 

Calmador

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@ Everyone

I didn't read the entire thread... but judging the OP at face value ... if she really means what she says... not faking her devotion to her husband. There is a biblical way, in the right context, that this kind of behavior is correct. Think objectively and let me know what you think of the following verses.

Ephesians 5:22

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

1 Peter 3:6

like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

^^^ Don't ignore God's word. If she is being honest and putting God above her husband... then she is acting like a Godly woman. Her behavior inspires and convicts me because I know my future wife will depend on me like this.
 
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@ Everyone

I didn't read the entire thread... but judging the OP ... if she really means what she says... not faking her devotion to her husband.

Then is biblical.

Ephesians 5:22

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

1 Peter 3:6

like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

^^^ Don't ignore God's word. If she is being honest and putting God above her husband... then she is acting like a Godly woman. Her behavior inspires and convicts me because I know my future wife will depend on me like this.
Why are people so afraid of actually reading?

Does it cause some kind of pain somewhere??
 

Calmador

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Why are people so afraid of actually reading?

Does it cause some kind of pain somewhere??
There's 25 pages to the thread... I'm going to do something more efficient and just post. Anyways, what do you think of the verses I brought up?
 
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Ugly

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A troll because I have a different belief than you? And I have considered it. God is my Master, but I hold my husband in the same regard. I respect Him just as much and love Him just as much.
Then you are going against the bible. You are raising a man to the status of perfect and holy God... or perhaps you are lowering God to the status of a sinful man. Either way the degree of submission is not biblical.
And since this seems to border on or even cross the line of sexual fetish of dominant/submissive that takes it even further into wrongness. Even in your signature it would suggest this.
So whether i look at it biblically, where you are elevating sinful man to the status of perfect God, or the fetish aspect, which would indicate a troll, i still see nothing right.

And married to God? We are His adopted children, grafted into his family. So you view yourself as having married your adoptive father?
 
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Mary you are funny :)
Yeah, I get that a lot.

I'm just exhaustified with all the ax-grinding males.

Despite the fact that our culture is suffering from a significant lack of fathering....
Despite the fact that like 50% of babies are now born out-of-wedlock...
Despite the fact that more women attend churches than men...
Despite the fact that there are lots and lots of honorable, God-fearing women in the world...

the men still have to grind their axes on and on about how WOMEN should be behaving.

These men don't hold EACH OTHER accountable for behaving like men, but they sure will go after women who don't seem to fit their particularly self-indulgent interpretation of scripture.

I can give you examples from these boards: When a MAN will post regarding the troubles in his marriage, the vast majority of responses he will receive will be from WOMEN.

When people create posts about the ROLE OF A HUSBAND, there are few/to no real responses from men. However all the men come out to play when the issue is what a wife should be doing.

Oh...and these same men can't be bothered to actually read with any level of discernment, nor apologize when they are clearly wrong. (For example, YOU never actually apologized to me for the things you implied in your posts to me).

It's just disheartening.

Why are women held to such a standard by the men in here, but these men can't bear to examine themselves using the same standard?

(Sirk, Tintin, and the other balanced men in here, forgive me for the rant).
 
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WolfGaming

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Then you are going against the bible. You are raising a man to the status of perfect and holy God... or perhaps you are lowering God to the status of a sinful man. Either way the degree of submission is not biblical.
And since this seems to border on or even cross the line of sexual fetish of dominant/submissive that takes it even further into wrongness. Even in your signature it would suggest this.
So whether i look at it biblically, where you are elevating sinful man to the status of perfect God, or the fetish aspect, which would indicate a troll, i still see nothing right.

And married to God? We are His adopted children, grafted into his family. So you view yourself as having married your adoptive father?
she left do to all the negative postes so no point it talking to someone that is no longer here.
 
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There's 25 pages to the thread... I'm going to do something more efficient and just post. Anyways, what do you think of the verses I brought up?
I think you have no idea what the poster was actually saying (like many of the men here). I think you can't be bothered to read the thread, so you're posting verses that have been posted a gagillion times in here.
 
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WolfGaming

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Yeah, I get that a lot.

I'm just exhaustified with all the ax-grinding males.

Despite the fact that our culture is suffering from a significant lack of fathering....
Despite the fact that like 50% of babies are now born out-of-wedlock...
Despite the fact that more women attend churches than men...
Despite the fact that there are lots and lots of honorable, God-fearing women in the world...

the men still have to grind their axes on and on about how WOMEN should be behaving.

These men don't hold EACH OTHER accountable for behaving like men, but they sure will go after women who don't seem to fit their particularly self-indulgent interpretation of scripture.

I can give you examples from these boards: When a MAN will post regarding the troubles in his marriage, the vast majority of responses he will receive will be from WOMEN.

When people create posts about the ROLE OF A HUSBAND, there are few/to no real responses from men. However all the men come out to play when the issue is what a wife should be doing.

Oh...and these same men can't be bothered to actually read with any level of discernment, nor apologize when they are clearly wrong. (For example, YOU never actually apologized to me for the things you implied in your posts to me).

It's just disheartening.

Why are women held to such a standard by the men in here, but these men can't bear to examine themselves using the same standard?

(Sirk, Tintin, and the other balanced men in here, forgive me for the rant).
marry be honest do girls / women not do the same this seems a bit hypocritical.
 
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marry be honest do girls / women not do the same this seems a bit hypocritical.
I'm not being hypocritical. I was expressing my feelings. I made no claims that women are somehow superior or more virtuous.

I'm sorry you cannot recognize and empathize with frustration when you see it.

I'm sorry you can't bother to be kind when someone is clearly hurt.

Hopefully, people will be kind to kind to you when you are frustrated and hurt.
 
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ember

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man you're sixteen....Mary is pretty much right on

and my all time favorite...which I haven't actually seen on this particular forum is that it is the woman's fault if she is raped or if a man cannot help but lust after her or if a man has wandering eyes...it's the woman's fault...always

from what I know, a woman can dress in a burlap bag that reaches the floor and put another one over her head and still be blamed by men for tempting them

I'm not kidding
 
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WolfGaming

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I'm not being hypocritical. I was expressing my feelings. I made no claims that women are somehow superior or more virtuous.

I'm sorry you cannot recognize and empathize with frustration when you see it.

I'm sorry you can't bother to be kind when someone is clearly hurt.

Hopefully, people will be kind to kind to you when you are frustrated and hurt.
I have had both done to me it took my father to help me out of this it is an argument over a woman that is no longer here and is just causing us to sin by being frustrated with each other and continuing in what seems to be an endless debate can we not be grown up enough to stay this is going no where I guaranty you that most the people here will not give up what they think is biblical or right so I encourage all of you plz let it go and let this thread die.
 
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marry be honest do girls / women not do the same this seems a bit hypocritical.
As an aside, I find it interesting that you would be so quick to call me hypocritical considering that I have defended you on these boards.

It seems that actual Christian BEHAVIOR doesn't really matter to some people. All that matters is their ax-grinding doctrines.
 
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I have had both done to me it took my father to help me out of this it is an argument over a woman that is no longer here and is just causing us to sin by being frustrated with each other and continuing in what seems to be an endless debate can we not be grown up enough to stay this is going no where I guaranty you that most the people here will not give up what they think is biblical or right so I encourage all of you plz let it go and let this thread die.
Perhaps it is causing YOU to sin.

Again...just another male on the boards who can't be bothered to apologize.
 
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WolfGaming

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A male interesting I am Chandler . And if you recall I apologized to every one on this forum.
 

Dan58

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When people create posts about the ROLE OF A HUSBAND, there are few/to no real responses from men. However all the men come out to play when the issue is what a wife should be doing.
Probably because men don't know or care what we're suppose to be doing, but we're very clear about what we want and what women should be doing. We're probably still a bit paranoid ever since Adam listened to Eve instead of slapping that apple out of her mouth. :)