Main Difference between a Man and a Woman

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Kerim

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Are you seeking opinions or trying to make people guess your answer? Because your first posted indicated you wanted to see what others had to see, but every post since is like you're aimed at getting a specific answer. Might help if you clarified if you're seeking opinions or playing a guessing game. Because if you're just seeking peoples personal views then there would be no need for clues.
I couldn't get very well what you like telling me :(

Even if my answer happens to be right or good (or perhaps wrong), is it a crime hearing other opinions first, then hearing their comments after I give mine?

For instance, I am glad that I left school (and university) since long when I had to play the good student who should follow his teacher's rules, always and no matter what they are, in order to get the scientific knowledge I was looking for.
But here, sorry if I am wrong, I see all of us, including myself, as free independent teachers but without students around them
 

PennEd

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I mean, in general, what is the main difference between a man and a woman in their relationships with others? (Please note, I don’t mean sexually).

I bet my answer will be accepted by most of you though you are not aware of yet.
A hint: In one respect they are clearly opposite (by nature).


But let us hear your personal observations first, based on your long experience.
A man craves respect and a woman craves love. This doesn't mean a woman doesn't need respect or a man doesn't need love, but we are hard wired differently. I know a marriage is in trouble if a wife rolls her eyes at something her husband says in public, or if a husband spends no quality time with his wife and is ALWAYS golfing, fishing, or out with his buddies.
 
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Kerim

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A man craves respect and a woman craves love.
Very nice summary, thank you.

A man craves respect because, the typical man, is responsible of himself therefore he expects from others to know that he is aware very well of whatever he is doing (ideally speaking
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When I will have more free time, I will add how 'a typical woman craves love' in daily life... as I see it, of course
 
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On a more serious note, differences between the two genders are largely exaggerated, if anything. That's not to imply that legitimate psychological discrepancies exist between the two alongside obvious anatomical differences, but they're often too negligible to be particularly noteworthy. Sociological discrepancies can mostly (but certainly not completely) be accounted for through an analytical lens of the tentative and diverse social infrastructure of human civilization -- for instance, many women perform admirably in leadership positions alongside men in societies that don't heavily discriminate on the basis of gender, and there's little to no evidence favoring the notion that women are innately psychologically predisposed to be submissive to men in terms of leadership, or that women are averse to leadership roles in general.

I suppose the main difference between men and women is what's perceptible to the naked eye -- if artificial social constructs are taken out of the equation, at least. Overall, differences in gender are overstated, and these overstatements are exacerbated by a predominantly male dominance hierarchy wherever present.
 
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A man craves respect and a woman craves love. This doesn't mean a woman doesn't need respect or a man doesn't need love, but we are hard wired differently. I know a marriage is in trouble if a wife rolls her eyes at something her husband says in public, or if a husband spends no quality time with his wife and is ALWAYS golfing, fishing, or out with his buddies.
That's just silly, scientifically unsubstantiated speculation. Both men and women want to be respected and loved to a similar degree. I don't believe there's any credible evidence to suggest that any "hardwired" discrepancies exist between the genders that influences the desire for affection and respect, or that there's any reason to posit a dichotomy between the genders on the basis of two largely interconnected phenomena, to begin with. Extrapolating a credibly "hardwired" psychological phenomenon requires more than mere experience from within the context of social infrastructure, since society is, to varying degrees, artificially influenced by phenomena along the lines of hierarchical dominance.

Now, let's see that peer reviewed meta-analysis that demonstrates a clear psychological split between males and females in terms of the desire for love and respect. ;)
 

PennEd

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That's just silly, scientifically unsubstantiated speculation. Both men and women want to be respected and loved to a similar degree. I don't believe there's any credible evidence to suggest that any "hardwired" discrepancies exist between the genders that influences the desire for affection and respect, or that there's any reason to posit a dichotomy between the genders on the basis of two largely interconnected phenomena, to begin with. Extrapolating a credibly "hardwired" psychological phenomenon requires more than mere experience from within the context of social infrastructure, since society is, to varying degrees, artificially influenced by phenomena along the lines of hierarchical dominance.

Now, let's see that peer reviewed meta-analysis that demonstrates a clear psychological split between males and females in terms of the desire for love and respect. ;)
A lot of 5 dollar words you use there that boils down to the excellent job our educational system has done to brain wash the youth, especially women, that there are no real differences between the sexes. That of course is absolute hogwash. (only a 10 cent word!)
Something tells me you have been listening too much to Bible-hating feminists like this one:

Far Left Conference Speaker Calls for White Race and MEN to be Abolished! (Video) | The Gateway Pundit
 
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A lot of 5 dollar words you use there that boils down to the excellent job our educational system has done to brain wash the youth, especially women, that there are no real differences between the sexes. That of course is absolute hogwash.
That's nice. Now, how about that scientifically valid, peer reviewed evidence? :)
 

PennEd

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Yeah, I'm thinking I'll rely on God's "reviewed evidence"

22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. 25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. 33 However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

AS SHOULD YOU.
 
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Kerim

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Hi Lizathrose and PennEd,

Please note that what characterizes a woman is not complicated... and I have the impression that all of you (men and women and not matter which belief you have) will likely not object it


But please remember, I refer to the majority of women since there are always exceptions (the same applies on men).

The reason I delay my voice is to have more fun (serious fun
) and perhaps a girl or woman around here will be kind and tell us what I have in mind
 
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Hi Lizathrose and PennEd,

Please note that what characterizes a woman is not complicated... and I have the impression that all of you (men and women and not matter which belief you have) will likely not object it


But please remember, I refer to the majority of women since there are always exceptions (the same applies on men).

The reason I delay my voice is to have more fun (serious fun
) and perhaps a girl or woman around here will be kind and tell us what I have in mind
An obsession with precious gems? Emotional instability? Ownership of at least twenty different pairs of shoes? No? I'm drawing a blank.
 

PennEd

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Hi Lizathrose and PennEd,

Please note that what characterizes a woman is not complicated... and I have the impression that all of you (men and women and not matter which belief you have) will likely not object it


But please remember, I refer to the majority of women since there are always exceptions (the same applies on men).

The reason I delay my voice is to have more fun (serious fun
) and perhaps a girl or woman around here will be kind and tell us what I have in mind
Please understand Kerim, that Liza is not a Christian, and usually speaks in sarcasm or dripping condescension. She has been spoonfed feminist dogma for 19 yrs. At this point, she honestly doesn't believe there are large, REAL differences between men and women. She must be yearning for Truth, else why spend time here. So in that regard we should pray to the Lord that her exposure here will reach her heart. She probably doesn't believe how overjoyed we would be if she accepted Jesus as her Lord and Savior. I pray in Jesus name that she would come to the realization that she needs Him and accept Him. Amen
 
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brokenclay

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what is the main difference between a man and a woman in their relationships with others? (Please note, I don’t mean sexually).
I think a lot depends on what has shaped your thinking as a youth. I can't even answer this question in simple terms. Teach me brother.
 

Elizabeth619

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I think it is pretty well shown in this thread that one's environment plays a huge role in how relationships work between men and women. When you have individuals that are Godly, and do stick to scripture you will have a submissive, respectful, wife and a working, supportive husband who use their roles to work together to create a unity.

Yet when you have a couple who thinks everything about them is "equal" you are likely to have competition for power. They will not work together. There will be no unity. There will be chaos. Two equal sides of a magnet repel each other.
 

presidente

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That's just silly, scientifically unsubstantiated speculation. Both men and women want to be respected and loved to a similar degree. I don't believe there's any credible evidence to suggest that any "hardwired" discrepancies exist between the genders that influences the desire for affection and respect, or that there's any reason to posit a dichotomy between the genders on the basis of two largely interconnected phenomena, to begin with. Extrapolating a credibly "hardwired" psychological phenomenon requires more than mere experience from within the context of social infrastructure, since society is, to varying degrees, artificially influenced by phenomena along the lines of hierarchical dominance.

Now, let's see that peer reviewed meta-analysis that demonstrates a clear psychological split between males and females in terms of the desire for love and respect. ;)

I don't know of any peer reviewed articles on the subject, and a lot of meta-analysis articles may be junk anyway if the variables between studies aren't the same. The file drawer phenomenon hurts the data, too, since only the significant results that were published are available for meta-analysis and the insignificant ones are left out of the data, usually. How is the researcher supposed to find out about it.

I don't know about peer reviewed, but I did hear that there was a survey that asked women whether they would rather be loved or respected at the workplace, and more chose loved. More men chose respected. I probably heard that at church, so I didn't hear a source.

As far as differences between men and women go, there are quite a bit in terms of psychology. Men tend to remember big picture details (unless it's driving directions.) Women remember in more detail. I was reading an academic article on this once, and it said women remember the details of people's clothing and men don't. That really stuck out to me because my wife has tried to tell me about conversations with people at church that I hadn't met yet, "you know, the lady that was wearing purple." I was thinking, "Who remembers what color someone was wearing?" But apparently, it's pretty common for women to remember such things. If I lose track of my wife at the mall in an Asian country (where everyone's hair color is the same as hers), I don't remember what color she is wearing unless I make a mental note of it.

I haven't read the articles on this, but I was listening to discussion of research on the radio that had to do with women's brain's being wired so that they have a strong emotional memory. The commentator, a married man, pointed out that women remember when they were upset about something years ago during an argument. Women seem to have better memories about those kinds of things than men. I've also heard that there are more neural connections between a woman's emotional center in her brain and her speech center, while men's emotional center is wired to the spinal cord. When I'm stressed, sometimes I want to rest and not talk about it. My wife, going through the same things, wants to talk. When danger comes, the man is wired to get out the club and fight the bear or tiger more so than the wife. (Are women wired to scream and scare the tiger of or scream for male help?)

Biologically, women are designed to nurse babies in a way that men aren't.
 
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ji

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#37
I mean, in general, what is the main difference between a man and a woman in their relationships with others? (Please note, I don’t mean sexually).

I bet my answer will be accepted by most of you though you are not aware of yet.
A hint: In one respect they are clearly opposite (by nature).


But let us hear your personal observations first, based on your long experience.
From what i see man looks for Freedom more,women looks for Security more..
Both Gender become Satisfied when they come to God,because God is sufficient in giving what both needs...

This is what i have observed.
 
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Kerim

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what is the main difference between a man and a woman in their relationships with others? (Please note, I don’t mean sexually).
I think a lot depends on what has shaped your thinking as a youth. I can't even answer this question in simple terms. Teach me brother.
I see myself a student at life's school till my last breath


Although I have a clear general opinion based on my personal observations of women in almost all countries (and no matter their belief is), I liked hearing other's views and as many as possible, just to enrich my knowledge. And it is not a big deal (a crime
) if some people cannot be sincere, for one good reason or another, when discussing/analysing some subjects.
 
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Kerim

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I think it is pretty well shown in this thread that one's environment plays a huge role in how relationships work between men and women. When you have individuals that are Godly, and do stick to scripture you will have a submissive, respectful, wife and a working, supportive husband who use their roles to work together to create a unity.

Yet when you have a couple who thinks everything about them is "equal" you are likely to have competition for power. They will not work together. There will be no unity. There will be chaos. Two equal sides of a magnet repel each other.
Well said and explained, thank you.

For instance, I hesitate in writing my answer (of when a girl knows she becomes a real woman, socially speaking) because I don't know how to express clearly in English (my vocabulary is rather narrow) the deep nature of a woman (Godly or not)

It took me 30 years to get it (I wasn't too smart in social matters, I was busy in studying scientific stuff instead
).
 
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Kerim

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I don't know of any peer reviewed articles on the subject, and a lot of meta-analysis articles may be junk anyway if the variables between studies aren't the same. The file drawer phenomenon hurts the data, too, since only the significant results that were published are available for meta-analysis and the insignificant ones are left out of the data, usually. How is the researcher supposed to find out about it.

I don't know about peer reviewed, but I did hear that there was a survey that asked women whether they would rather be loved or respected at the workplace, and more chose loved. More men chose respected. I probably heard that at church, so I didn't hear a source.

As far as differences between men and women go, there are quite a bit in terms of psychology. Men tend to remember big picture details (unless it's driving directions.) Women remember in more detail. I was reading an academic article on this once, and it said women remember the details of people's clothing and men don't. That really stuck out to me because my wife has tried to tell me about conversations with people at church that I hadn't met yet, "you know, the lady that was wearing purple." I was thinking, "Who remembers what color someone was wearing?" But apparently, it's pretty common for women to remember such things. If I lose track of my wife at the mall in an Asian country (where everyone's hair color is the same as hers), I don't remember what color she is wearing unless I make a mental note of it.

I haven't read the articles on this, but I was listening to discussion of research on the radio that had to do with women's brain's being wired so that they have a strong emotional memory. The commentator, a married man, pointed out that women remember when they were upset about something years ago during an argument. Women seem to have better memories about those kinds of things than men. I've also heard that there are more neural connections between a woman's emotional center in her brain and her speech center, while men's emotional center is wired to the spinal cord. When I'm stressed, sometimes I want to rest and not talk about it. My wife, going through the same things, wants to talk. When danger comes, the man is wired to get out the club and fight the bear or tiger more so than the wife. (Are women wired to scream and scare the tiger of or scream for male help?)

Biologically, women are designed to nurse babies in a way that men aren't.
Thank you for your interesting information.


For instance "... scream for male help?" is not too far from what I have in mind about the main difference between a typical man and typical woman.