Main Difference between a Man and a Woman

[Kerim]

Overall, I do acknowledge that differences between both genders exist, and that a handful of these are both significant and arguably innate, but I'm not convinced that most of these differences are mostly the result of innate psychology.

First, I am sorry for delaying my answer since I enjoy reading the various posts that present, as usual, different views. This is normal and even healthy while no one pretends being all-knowledge.

You may recall what I wrote earlier, something like:
'A man craves respect' because the typical man feels he should be responsible of himself in whatever he may do or of whatever happens to him. Therefore, he, in general, expects from others to know that he is aware very well of whatever he is doing or decides on (ideally speaking). This is why it is out of question that a typical man could be proud of himself for having one or more supervisors taking care of him even if they are ready to defend him.

Now, to show how 'a typical woman craves love' I like to ask you if you accept be the hero of a 'fiction' short story so that you can give us a realistic personal answer of what you, a good typical woman, would really feel. Okay?

 

[Lizathrose]

So list them for us and tell us which ones are innate and which are the result of nurture.

You've entirely missed the point, and you're interpreting my post out of context, to boot. I was responding to this question:

"Just out of curiosity sister, what is your opinion on major differences between Man and Woman? Generally speaking of course."

My response identified two major differences that psychological research has managed to rule out as being largely innate (biological) while acknowledging that, in general, it's difficult to rule out the extent to which many listed or perceived differences between the sexes are naturally or artificially acquired (through sheer biology or society).

Generally speaking, modern (mainstream) psychology asserts (says) that the "nurture" aspect (part) of nature versus nurture plays a significant (big) role in conceptions (ideas) of gender identity, in academic performance, in general personality types, in emotion and aggression, and so on and so forth. Given the extent to which human civilization is demonstrably (shown to be) capable of subjectively molding its inhabitants (people) in a particular cultural image, and given the extent to which humans are generally capable of suppressing or changing their innate nature through their intelligence, I stated that it's thus "rational to conclude that there's no strong evidence of many significant, innate social and psychological differences between the sexes relative to the extent to which both genders share similar traits, and that human cognition and social adaptability arguably plays a greater role in exaggerating differences between them -- or creating differences, for that matter."

In a simpler shorthand, humans are very socially adaptable and thus are molded, in large part, by the cultures they live in. Social dominance theory, which essentially theorizes a dominance hierarchy, is exaggerated in human society because it's capable of being formalized into law and in long-standing traditions. What this means for women, basically, is that whatever differences exist between them and men can be (and often are) formalized and exaggerated through society, such as interpretations based on the physically weaker and more vulnerable bodies of women, and that traditional views of women that western society has just recently managed to rid itself of don't hold nearly as much weight as they did in the past. The difference between "security and freedom" mentioned earlier in this thread is a good example of a fairly baseless assumption of a difference between both genders that hearkens back to an older mode of thinking.

 

[Lizathrose]

I think Einstein said that if you can't explain it to a 5 year old, you don't understand it yourself.

Since we're apparently playing the quoting game, and since this quote in particular appears to be relevant to your misinterpretation of my post, I'll have a go. Courtesy of Bertrand Russell.

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."

 

[Animus]

You've entirely missed the point, and you're interpreting my post out of context, to boot. I was responding to this question:

"Just out of curiosity sister, what is your opinion on major differences between Man and Woman? Generally speaking of course."

My response identified two major differences that psychological research has managed to rule out as being largely innate (biological) while acknowledging that, in general, it's difficult to rule out the extent to which many listed or perceived differences between the sexes are naturally or artificially acquired (through sheer biology or society).

Generally speaking, modern (mainstream) psychology asserts (says) that the "nurture" aspect (part) of nature versus nurture plays a significant (big) role in conceptions (ideas) of gender identity, in academic performance, in general personality types, in emotion and aggression, and so on and so forth. Given the extent to which human civilization is demonstrably (shown to be) capable of subjectively molding its inhabitants (people) in a particular cultural image, and given the extent to which humans are generally capable of suppressing or changing their innate nature through their intelligence, I stated that it's thus "rational to conclude that there's no strong evidence of many significant, innate social and psychological differences between the sexes relative to the extent to which both genders share similar traits, and that human cognition and social adaptability arguably plays a greater role in exaggerating differences between them -- or creating differences, for that matter."

In a simpler shorthand, humans are very socially adaptable and thus are molded, in large part, by the cultures they live in. Social dominance theory, which essentially theorizes a dominance hierarchy, is exaggerated in human society because it's capable of being formalized into law and in long-standing traditions. What this means for women, basically, is that whatever differences exist between them and men can be (and often are) formalized and exaggerated through society, such as interpretations based on the physically weaker and more vulnerable bodies of women, and that traditional views of women that western society has just recently managed to rid itself of don't hold nearly as much weight as they did in the past. The difference between "security and freedom" mentioned earlier in this thread is a good example of a fairly baseless assumption of a difference between both genders that hearkens back to an older mode of thinking.

It is generally accepted that men and women are more alike then they are different. In fact, it is only because they are so similar that we even see them as different. Comparisons between men and The Dewey Decimal Classification are quite rare, not because they are similar, but because they are too different. I know you consent to some innate differences, but consider that if all the perceived differences between men and women did result from societal norms and tradition that this would still beg the question of how these traditions and societal norms came about in the first place. These heinous norms came about by natural means, and they've stuck around long since physical strength was the only commodity. There is a crying need for the horrible disparity.

Whether a man should be more like the sheep or the lion could be talked about until one eats the other, but if the lion and the lamb shall lay down together they'll find that it would be terrible to have to be both. Keeping two extremes side by side in harmony is very desirable but also very difficult. In economics we find it preferable for each person to do one task very well for society, rather than do every task your oneself. If every man is part woman and every woman part man, it is preferable that they should each excel primarily at being one or the other, lest they both be very poor at being either. If it is queer traditions that have made it such that a woman is a better mother than a man, then they ought to be applauded. A woman's connection to her baby is a fortunate accident considering babies are, in my experience, some of the rudest people I have come across.

 

[PennEd]

You're alluding to a highly subjective set of stereotypes that simply don't hold any objective, universal weight. I don't personally make a habit out of telling my female peers how "nice they look" or compliment their shoes or hair, and I don't think I've seen men insult one another very often. And, regardless of the extent to which these stereotypes exist, the overall societal context that they exist in has to be accounted for -- namely, the largely artificial concept of feminism and masculinity that's so prevalent in society that heavily molds behavioral tendencies. If mere stereotypes and subjective experience are the best defense you're capable of making for the rather baseless assumption that men and women are inherently and drastically psychologically and socially different, you've already conceded your ignorance.

Insert twenty-five cents and try again.

Ah!! The drip.... drip.... drip... of condescension from a 19 yr. old who think shes gotta handle on the universe! kinda like THIS female "professor"!

Moonbat Professor Links Santa Barbara Killer To “Conservative Christianity”… | Weasel Zippers

 

[Sirk]

Ah!! The drip.... drip.... drip... of condescension from a 19 yr. old who think shes gotta handle on the universe! kinda like THIS female "professor"!

Moonbat Professor Links Santa Barbara Killer To “Conservative Christianity”… | Weasel Zippers

I just love the cold expression of inexperienced knowledge. I prefer the warm glow of aged tubes vs the cold sterility of digitized 1's and 0's

 

[Sirk]

Since we're apparently playing the quoting game, and since this quote in particular appears to be relevant to your misinterpretation of my post, I'll have a go. Courtesy of Bertrand Russell.

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."

What is there to interpret about your post except that you pieced together a stake with information from your psychology textbooks and placed it into the intellectual high ground. You sound like a pointy headed shill devoid of any real world experience and your arguments come across as soulless academic musings. You're a mile wide and an inch deep sweetheart.

 

[jennymae]

The difference between a man and a woman is that a man is not in love with his own shoes.

Hearsay evidence...lol