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It just ends up in endless debate of some personal responsibility vs. objectifying the other gender vs. personal freedom vs. whatever other opinion logs on at the time. Then we start arguing on how modesty is actually defined. I went to Bob Jones University where necklines were measured with a ruler, but I had spent some years in Germany were modesty was, "Hey, let's NOT show our nipples today."
Modesty, while important, is complicated, vague, and relative to time, culture, and beliefs.
Modesty, while important, is complicated, vague, and relative to time, culture, and beliefs.
Modesty is, at it's roots, respecting what God says about sex.
The world says that sex is a need we have, and certain glands are involved. It is a need like eating is a need, and we should satisfy that need.
God says that sex is the way two become one, it expresses great spiritual truths, it is a gift for us, God gives many explanations of sex, all of which the world is completely ignorant of. They strut about, sure they have all the answers, when they haven't a clue about what they are talking about.
When men and women use their bodies to say I don't understand about sex, don't you think I am sexy to supply your physical needs of sex, they are displaying their ignorance.
The world says that sex is a need we have, and certain glands are involved. It is a need like eating is a need, and we should satisfy that need.
God says that sex is the way two become one, it expresses great spiritual truths, it is a gift for us, God gives many explanations of sex, all of which the world is completely ignorant of. They strut about, sure they have all the answers, when they haven't a clue about what they are talking about.
When men and women use their bodies to say I don't understand about sex, don't you think I am sexy to supply your physical needs of sex, they are displaying their ignorance.
C
I think you can still look stylish and be modestly dressed at the same time. There are plenty of nice clothes around if you want to look good. I just won't wear anything too tight or which will show off my shoulders or breasts. But I still like to look decent. Layering dresses are really in at the moment and are a great way to cover up without looking like a childrens tv presenter...
That's my personal opinion. I know others won't agree... I'm not talking about dressing up to be sexy by the way. I'm talking about looking professional in the office.
That's my personal opinion. I know others won't agree... I'm not talking about dressing up to be sexy by the way. I'm talking about looking professional in the office.
I don't wear the typical bathing suits. I don't believe tank-top and underwear fall under the category of decent beach attire. If one can't walk on the streets in their undergarments then what makes it okay on the beach? I also don't think guys should be shirtless on the beach; modesty is everyone's responsibility. As Christians we should always adorn ourselves in ways that will glorify God. I was baptised in a baptistery in a dress my mother sewed that covered my shoulders and went below my knees.
C
I don't wear the typical bathing suits. I don't believe tank-top and underwear fall under the category of decent beach attire. If one can't walk on the streets in their undergarments then what makes it okay on the beach? I also don't think guys should be shirtless on the beach; modesty is everyone's responsibility. As Christians we should always adorn ourselves in ways that will glorify God. I was baptised in a baptistery in a dress my mother sewed that covered my shoulders and went below my knees.
J
it is so hard to get the idea of what is hot from what the media has dump down our throat.. it is nice to see ppl out here seeing there is ways to be content on how you appear with out crossing the lines to something that is too "hot"
For the most part i think it is our minds in how we look at others... and harnessing our own thoughts is more effective way of dealing with a lot of immodest dressing out there, because as i said it is wonderful to see ppl wanting to dress modestly but most wont and think it is a "right" and they do not fully understand what they are doing to others and themselves
For the most part i think it is our minds in how we look at others... and harnessing our own thoughts is more effective way of dealing with a lot of immodest dressing out there, because as i said it is wonderful to see ppl wanting to dress modestly but most wont and think it is a "right" and they do not fully understand what they are doing to others and themselves
What a timely topic for the times we live in! I am glad that there are people encouraging women to consider the ramifications (both positive and negative) of how we choose to clothe and present ourselves to the world. I was raised with a great emphasis on vanity and making every effort to present a pleasing appearance, never considering any responsibility for my choices. this is only reinforced by our society's push to view physical beauty as a trait above all others. it wasn't until i got to the college years that i began to understand this complex issue in a different light. we as women wield great power in these choices--and that i have a great deal of influence on how the world views me, and what those choices tell others about my priorities. we as women can use those choices to either advance our hopes and goals, or we can send mixed messages. i have had girls tell me that they don't understand why they are treated a certain way by the guys that they get to know. what i share with them is this that i believe that in a matter of two seconds we either reflect self respect and dignity or insecurity and desperation for attention.
The truth is, the way we show ourselves to the world is a powerful statement about what we expect from ourselves and others. If you dress to generate attention to your body, you must concede that the world we live in will :
#1 react, judge you and draw conclusions about you with information that is primarily drawn by the way you choose to dress and present yourself.
#2 in a matter of a couple seconds decide how it is you want to be treated by others. do you want to be engaging for your words and ideas, the way you care about others, and love and serve those around you? how you love the Lord? or do you want to be seen as a woman looking for the attention drawn from her body?
#3 - how you view yourself. i can't assess everyone's motives, but when i was younger, i enjoyed dressing for the compliments and attention that would come from others. what a great boost to a low self esteem! but i learned that i can have self respect and pride in caring for my appearance, while choosing to dress in a way that would reflect my own intentions--which were to be respected, my testimony would be both heard, and that it would be evident to others that i was not trying to blend in, or be just like every other girl, i.e. "in this world, but not of this world". how can i expect others to see my love for my Savior when my appearance says that i want to be appreciated for an eye-catching appearance?
clearly i believe that is one of the most important ways we, as women of Christ can set ourselves apart from the world. not for the sake of being controversial, not for the sake of being self-righteous, not because we are better than others, not because we are prudes, nor to draw even more attention to ourselves. But because we are daughters of the Lord Almighty and we called to be set apart, to share the good news, to be the "salt of the earth". We are commissioned to carry out a job that we must be prepared to dress for. One of my favorite examples to use with my girls' group is: just how serious would you take diane sawyers telling the news if she was reading the news in a halter top? that response of bewilderment always makes me laugh...
pardon the diatribe! and thank you to the poster for raising the timely topic.
The truth is, the way we show ourselves to the world is a powerful statement about what we expect from ourselves and others. If you dress to generate attention to your body, you must concede that the world we live in will :
#1 react, judge you and draw conclusions about you with information that is primarily drawn by the way you choose to dress and present yourself.
#2 in a matter of a couple seconds decide how it is you want to be treated by others. do you want to be engaging for your words and ideas, the way you care about others, and love and serve those around you? how you love the Lord? or do you want to be seen as a woman looking for the attention drawn from her body?
#3 - how you view yourself. i can't assess everyone's motives, but when i was younger, i enjoyed dressing for the compliments and attention that would come from others. what a great boost to a low self esteem! but i learned that i can have self respect and pride in caring for my appearance, while choosing to dress in a way that would reflect my own intentions--which were to be respected, my testimony would be both heard, and that it would be evident to others that i was not trying to blend in, or be just like every other girl, i.e. "in this world, but not of this world". how can i expect others to see my love for my Savior when my appearance says that i want to be appreciated for an eye-catching appearance?
clearly i believe that is one of the most important ways we, as women of Christ can set ourselves apart from the world. not for the sake of being controversial, not for the sake of being self-righteous, not because we are better than others, not because we are prudes, nor to draw even more attention to ourselves. But because we are daughters of the Lord Almighty and we called to be set apart, to share the good news, to be the "salt of the earth". We are commissioned to carry out a job that we must be prepared to dress for. One of my favorite examples to use with my girls' group is: just how serious would you take diane sawyers telling the news if she was reading the news in a halter top? that response of bewilderment always makes me laugh...
pardon the diatribe! and thank you to the poster for raising the timely topic.