My fiance doesn't believe in the Trinity

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GodisONE

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let me say it this way, according to theologians, Christ and His Disciples spoke in Aramaic/Hebrew.

it does not matter what language the scriptures were written in.

it matters what language they actually spoke in Jerusalem and throughout Israel.
 
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GodisONE said:
I see, so people who are Jewish would have never used their native language?

you crack me up.

the Gospels were ORIGINALLY written in Aramaic before Greek and Latin.

do you know that Aramaic is made up of mostly the Hebrew/Yiddish language.

no wonder you are lost in scripture!!
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There is not need for non-Jewish people to use Jewish form of Jesus name, because not even apostles did that in the NT. And apostles are authority about how to deal with such practical things.
 
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Jesus is God Jesus is Lord . You are legalistic in your theology too. This is why you write Yeshua over writing " Jesus ".
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I'm surprised to hear this, for the first time in my life, someone would be so "conscious" of rather writing Yeshua just because they worry that writing the word "Jesus" is sin

I'm in agreement with CS1
may we learn the lesson here to be careful of what legalism can do to the human mind
 
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GodisONE

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theanointedsinner said:
I'm surprised to hear this, for the first time in my life, someone would be so "conscious" of rather writing Yeshua just because they worry that writing the word "Jesus" is sin

I'm in agreement with CS1
may we learn the lesson here to be careful of what legalism can do to the human mind
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it's not that I believe it is a sin, it's that I believe it is His actual name and I desire to honor Him by using it.
and when He cast out demons, they said with trembling, we know who YOU ARE, and then begged Him not to cast them into the Abyss.
so obviously the Adversary and his demons know who Yeshua is.
and I feel this knowledge helps in battling the Adversary and his minions, by telling them, to Get thee behind me in the NAME of Yeshua!!

you can believe it is a part of legalism.
I believe it is respect unto who His name actually is!!
 
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Beaver750 said:
Hello everyone

My fiance and I have known each other for 6 years, have been dating for 3 years, and have been engaged for 4 months.

I've always known that she doesn't believe in the Trinity. Despite that, I've always believed that she is the woman I'm meant to be with. I have prayed countless times for God to take her away from me if she is not the right woman for me, and He hasn't! Our relationship is pretty perfect really, but there's just this one issue that bothers me.

She identifies as a Christian, and I believe that she is a Christian. She just believes that based on an unbiased, straight-forward reading of the bible, there is nothing to prove that Jesus is God. She also can't see how Jesus praying to God in the Garden of Gethsemane makes any sense at all. I've showed her all the bible verses that we rely upon in defense of the Trinity, but she doesn't think they make a strong enough case in favour of it. In fairness to her, there are no unambiguous bible verses that clearly spell out the Trinity; rather it is a combination of verses that we use to understand the Trinity. I've showed her John 1:1, but she just doesn't see it.

She and I have had many many many conversations about this, and has told me that she will probably never change her mind about it. She has also asked that I stop trying to change her mind about it. I have told her in no uncertain terms that I will be talking to her about this for the rest of her life.

She grew up as a Mormon - but renounced Mormonism long before I met her. This is probably where her views come from. But herein lies the problem. She knows that from childhood she was fooled into believing the lies of Mormonism. She is now (understandably) extremely reluctant to simply believe things just because a lot of people say its true. So its not going to be easy to help her to understand the truth.

What should I do here? How do I help her to see the truth?

Oh and not marrying her is not an option. She is far more likely to find the truth with me than without me, in my estimation.

Thank you
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The "Trinity" is mis-understood, can be misleading, can be confusing, can cause people to reject Christianity as goofy.

God the Father is definitely NOT God the Son and neither the Father nor the Son is the Holy Spirit. They are three separate beings who are operating in perfect unity. They all are "God" to us even though they are separate individual beings.

Think of it like this. To a toddler, it is obvious that Dad is not Mom, and Mom is not Dad, yet they both are "Parent". They both have authority over the child. They are married and have vowed to operate in unity to the best of human ability. They have even taken the same name.

This is a great way to explain the "Trinity" and the verses that back this up are abundant.
 
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