RACISM & CHRISTIANITY?!?!

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Jullianna

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When God created Adam and Eve I notice that neither of them are physically described as far as skin/hair/eye color in scripture. In my heart I truly believe that we were not given this information so that no race could hold anything above another. We are all the same in His sight because He doesn't look at our skin/eyes/hair. He looks on the heart. :)

I Samuel 16:7 - But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
 
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I grew up in a different culture and both my parents are of different races..My dad is canadian and my mom is asian.Physical features, family attachments and support, and experiences with other groups influence racial identity.In my own experience,my parents can really help me cope with these pressures by establishing open communication in our family about races and cultures... I am a person with a family history of which I am proud of and i don't mind if i am a dual citizen.These gives me the option of recognizing both of my parents both of whom were very much a part of my development..

"If you truly a christian you will never make decisions based upon a person’s skin color.We just come in different shades. We don’t see “races,” we see people. Each of us are made with equal value, worth, and dignity because we are all equally made in the image of God.God has given all of us the responsibility to take His gospel to all peoples.all people have been made in God’s image and need to hear the good news.."
 
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Jullianna

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I have shared this on CC before, but now is a good time/place to share it again. Two of my best friends are a biracial couple that I have known for almost 20 years now, which is about how long they have been married. They live in a very small town. They have a beautiful child. Her family abandoned her because of their marriage. They have suffered verbal abuse from others during their entire marriage, including people at their church.

As far as I can see, the struggles they have endured have only caused them to cling to one another more than they might have otherwise and has made their marriage stronger. They love and respect one another deeply. People long for the sort of deep, loving relationship these two share.
 
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Jullianna

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I have shared this on CC before, but now is a good time/place to share it again. Two of my best friends are a biracial couple that I have known for almost 20 years now, which is about how long they have been married. They live in a very small town. They have a beautiful child. Her family abandoned her because of their marriage. They have suffered verbal abuse from others during their entire marriage, including people at their church.

As far as I can see, the struggles they have endured have only caused them to cling to one another more than they might have otherwise and has made their marriage stronger. They love and respect one another deeply. People long for the sort of deep, loving relationship these two share.
 
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Personally, I've always digged women of a certain race as much as my fellow caucasians of the female persuasion. If one of these beautiful ladies took a liking to me, I would find some way of making it work out.

So yeah, I'm not racist with relationships for a selfish and immature reason: I like options. :p
 
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Considering a marraige verces one serving God.
When it comes to God, one cannot have to masters, as there is only one God.
But in marraige, wife is called to serve her husband, and husband to serve His wife, so there are not to masters, only one, the marriage it's self.
For two become one in being obedient to what God has set forth in marraige.
Seems to me that the unity is ordained by God. :)


God bless :)
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Crossfire

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pickles said:
Considering a marraige verces one serving God.
When it comes to God, one cannot have to masters, as there is only one God.
But in marraige, wife is called to serve her husband, and husband to serve His wife, so there are not to masters, only one, the marriage it's self.
For two become one in being obedient to what God has set forth in marraige.
Seems to me that the unity is ordained by God. :)


God bless :)
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Pickles, you are a wise woman in the Lord. If you weren't already married, I'd propose. *lol* I do pray that you are raising up spiritual daughters. We could use more women like you with such a heart for the Lord. :)
 
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CC_Bride

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Theres a passage in Numbers 12 where Moses takes a Cushite wife. And apparently during that time Cush was somewhere near Ethiopia, which means Moses being a pale/olive skinned Semitic ethnic bloke married a black African woman. Miriam and Aaron his siblings hugely criticised what he did as well as the woman herself who had done absolutely nothing wrong and as a result they believed this lowered his 'spritual' ranking as a prophet. If you read on from that, you'll see how God rebukes the two of them and punishes Miriam specifically.

The law of Moses focused on banning marriages from different countries because 99% of the time one partner in the union would come from a screwed up pagan religion and bring their theology with them, they didn't ban marriages just because one person was Moabite or Canaanite or Israelite or Egyptian, it was the religious differences.

Rahab is an excellent example. She was a Canaanite who became a believer and therefore could marry an Israelite which she did. Her son Boaz, went on to also marry a foriegner - a Moabite because she too became a believer. Lets also not forget, that when the Israelites left Egypt, quite a few thousand native Egyptians decided to join them, as a result they too became believers and could marry other Israelites.

A modern example would be this. Theres a Muslim Pakastani man and a Christian White English woman. They both follow their own faiths therefore they should never marry one another. But say, that muslim man becomes a genuine Christian, and grows in his faith in Jesus and meets that woman and they fall in love. They have every allowance to get married because they are both Christian. Given, English white culture is quite different to Pakastani culture and blending the two would be tricky BUT its not impossible especially where love of Jesus is concerned. And Ive seen MANY many successful Christian marriages where the spouses came from polar opposites in the world, and as a result their families are colourful and amazing, their children's heritage are deeply rich and they gain an advatage to coming to understand another country and language.
 
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surrender2God

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Racism & Christianity- what an oxymoron. There shouldn't be racism if we are talking about some1 who is truly 100% sold out to God. Racism is proof that Jesus Christ does not rule some1s heart. Show me a Christian that is racist and I will show you a Christian who needs to find an altar and truly surrender to God.
 
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mori

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Genesis2 said:
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
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To me, this means more than moving out. A person who is so tied up in his culture that it causes such significant clashes that he shouldn't have married his wife, shouldn't have married anybody - he hasn't cut the apron strings.
 
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Hey Everyone,

First off, let me make this extremely clear, that this particular thread is not to bring insult or hurt to any group of people......it's more a search for UNDERSTANDING.

Here goes!

Growing up, I was taught (in so many different ways) that Biracial relationships are no good.
In my own experience, I learned that this in fact is truth. (At least my truth) It seems when two cultures come together in the unity, there will almost always be a dominating culture.
One person always seems to lose theirself, and become "Sell outs" to their own....while the other coasts along feeling "Superior" or rather the "winner"
The "sell out" when confronted by their own, (whether verbally or non-verbally) behave like they do not remember who they are, and where they are coming from..and to their own are just rather embarrassing.
The other "Superior thinking" one is almost smug around their partners people, and feel as though they can say whatever they feel in their prescence, because, well, i'm with one of yours........not knowing that this exceptance is almost never mutual.
And then the "sell out" can't find honor amongst their partners people, because they too see themselves as "Superior" because thats what their relative(through the union) is, and in turn they try to impose, or put their controlling ways on that other party............after all, their culture is better, right? Wrong.
Our cultures are what keep us unique. Special. The way God made us. He wouldn't make us all so different, if he didn't see purpose in it.
Now here is the touchy part. Kids from Biracial unions! I have seen it time and time again.
The parents "think" that they are embracing both cultures, but this could never be. Just like no man can serve two masters, the kids almost always cleave to one side, while the other gets ignored or very little attention. How unfair.
When the products of Biracial families are with one side, they behave accordingly, and when with the other side they behave accordingly too, making them seem confusing and outcasted.
So people say, what are you? They say I'm both, when in our hearts we all know that, on both sides collectively, "You are not one of mine"

So lets bring this into Christian perspective,
How does God feel about us mixing cultures through marriage. Did he like it then? Does he like it now? Why would his views change if it has? why are there so many churches that seem culturally segregated if racism isnt STILL amongst us? Believers or not.why do so many of us still experience racism within our church circles? If you don't believe this, begin to look deeply into your church congregation, and mark the leadership in comparison to the congregation. :eek:
For example, Could a White person feel comfortable in an exclusively Black church, and vis versa?
Honest folks respond please.
Don't try to respond what you think others want to hear or what is socially acceptable, I want to know your TRUTH.
I'll Start. I think fellowship with all people is righteous in God's sight, while were all here together, but mixing in marriage is a no for me. You end up with resentment on someones part, the kids are confused(I know this personally) and I believe it's the best way to raise family in wholeness, without unneccessary Hurt and confusion. There such a beauty within the different cultures, why would anyone want to change that?
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While I see where you are coming from it is from a standpoint of society and years of racism within all cultures. This isn't from a biblical view.

While you are looking at people from a racial and sultural standpoint consider this:

1. Adam and Eve are the grandparents of us all (Genesis 3:20).

2. Christ died for all people(1 Timothy2:5-6), any attempt to castigate a segment of humanity, suggesting its unworthiness, reflects upon the Savior’s sacrifice.

3. Racism militates against one intended design of Jesus’ mission—to eradicate all ethnic barriers (Galatians 3:28).

4. The bible does not classify humans along any racial lines that are common to modern thought. Why should we?

All I suggest is that you carefully study God's word and see how the years of racism has blinded many peoples view on culture, and ethnic backgrounds.

Also, if it wasn't for cultures mixing many of us would not be here today. If you look at me you will see a white woman, but if you traced back my family history you would find French, English, Dutch, Cherokee Indian, and Afican American.These different bloodlines running through me is what makes me ME, one of a kind. A precious gift, beautiful, and unique.
 
MrHonest

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Oooooooh Genesis 11:1-8 culture & language barriers begin!
 
Dude653

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This is a failed attempt to sugar coat a racist agenda. This thread is propanda and nothing more. If God was against different ethic groups being together, He would not have made us geneticaly compatible. I am a white man in almost all black church, I feel right at home there, they love me and accept me. To say that differnt ethic groups should not worship together or be together in any other way is a lie from the pits of hell.
 
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CC_Bride

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Elizabeth619 said:


1. Adam and Eve are the grandparents of us all (Genesis 3:20).

2. Christ died for all people(1 Timothy2:5-6), any attempt to castigate a segment of humanity, suggesting its unworthiness, reflects upon the Savior’s sacrifice.

3. Racism militates against one intended design of Jesus’ mission—to eradicate all ethnic barriers (Galatians 3:28).

4. The bible does not classify humans along any racial lines that are common to modern thought. Why should we?

All I suggest is that you carefully study God's word and see how the years of racism has blinded many peoples view on culture, and ethnic backgrounds.

Also, if it wasn't for cultures mixing many of us would not be here today. If you look at me you will see a white woman, but if you traced back my family history you would find French, English, Dutch, Cherokee Indian, and Afican American.These different bloodlines running through me is what makes me ME, one of a kind. A precious gift, beautiful, and unique.
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Excellent post!!

"Adam and Eve are the grandparents of us all (Genesis 3:20)"

So True!
 
Dude653

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......oh....and do i need to remind you of Acts 17:26????
 
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Strong1

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WoW!!!
I truly stand spiritually corrected.
Healing can come out of the strangest places..........Thank you all.
 
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MrHonest said:
Oooooooh Genesis 11:1-8 culture & language barriers begin!
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Ohhhhhh they disobeyed God so God scattered people abroad with different languages to confuse them. Still has nothing to do with racism.
 
Dude653

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Racism stems from the evolution theory. Charles Darwin believed that blacks and jews were still part ape and were subhuman. This is also the same belief Hitler used to justify slaughtering jews by the millions.
 
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I would also like to add that racial intolerance is a learned behavior. Take a bunch of small children of various ethnic groups, and put them in a room full of toys. Watch them play together with no regard for skin color.
 
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nickeyb

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Hmmmmm so happy God doesnt see things like some people do... Just another emission from a limited mind's perspective!
 
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