Same sex marriage is an abomination and if you support it you are not a christian

[Jordache]

In my bible study we were talking about this subject and that old adage came up..."love the sinner, hate the sin". As people this doesn't work. It still causes us to focus too much on that sin that we have to hate. We need to be people focused before we are sin focused. Jesus saw the WOMAN at the well, not the loose samaritan at the well. What was Jesus ministry about? He had compassion! How are we compassionate when we condemn homosexuality. I do believe homosexuality is sin. Don't get me wrong. But I also strive to see people, to see the child of God in people, before I see their sin. Tell me, are you as harsh towards your own sin as you are towards a homosexual. Do you respond the same way to a liar, thief, pedophile, and a tax evader. All are sinners. While the consequence of sin may be different, all sin places the same chasm between us and God. If we are out harrassing homosexuals for their sins, then why aren't we jumping on every other Christian who's sin is just as devastating though perhaps in a different way.

 

[Nautilus]

Sin is Sin. I would guess there is alot more hetero sin than homo. what about drinking or smoking if you eat at retaurant that has booze or buy something from a store taht sells smokes Are you supporting that sin? I think so. JUdge not lest thy be judged

this is assuming drinking is a sin, even though plenty of people drank in the bible even Jesus. Smoking might be but I dont know i cant think of many other uses for tobacco and yet God put it here.

 

[Mediate]

Nautilus, regardless, sin is sin. And we all do it.

 

[Nautilus]

im just saying dont name things sins that arent

 

[Mediate]

Well, I don't think they are sins if they have a purpose. I think that deliberately getting drunk is a sin. It does say in the bible 'I can do anything. But not anything is benificial'. It also says your body is a temple, and it warns against drunkenness time and time again.

 

[Nautilus]

whhy does everyone just automatically equate drinking with drunkenness, they arent synonomous

 

[Mediate]

They are in some cultures.

 

[Helloimandrewyo]

whhy does everyone just automatically equate drinking with drunkenness, they arent synonomous

totally agree with you.

 

[meecha]

when we justify sin we step away from grace...homosexual activity is sin. But so is a lot of hetro sexual activity too. We still sin as Christians but we can never justify sin

 

[Mediate]

It's not a sin to drink. Jesus drank. Over-indulging and getting drunk, I would say, is a sin. at the very least, it isn't benificial.

 

[Shyness]

why are there people on this forum (a christian forum) showing their support for same sex marriage. its wrong. praise God a majority of people here still reject and oppose the gay agenda and their immoral turns. but if someone says they support same sex marriage, id automatically say they are not a genuine saved christian, and have fallen for the devils lies. if a person really was a christian the Holy Spirit would have put it in their mind that homosexuality was a sin.
and please no supporters of this abomination tell me that i have no love or no compassion etc. because quite frankly homosexuality is disgusting and is 100% oppose to God's plan and was not meant to be. God hates sin. this is how true christians should feel in regards to this topic.

All other sins are an abomination too such as lying, stealing, gluttony, selfishness, drunkenness, pedophilia, etc.

 

[Cwhzup13]

Many institutions in society use the phrase "sexual orientation" in
association with one's sexuality. The term orientation is unfairly
slanted towards left-leaning activist groups to support their claim
that because of inborn genetic tendencies homosexuals can not change.
The scientific consensus on homosexuality is that it is a due to a
complex interaction of environmental and genetic factors. This is the
same as the scientific consensus lifestyles for alcoholism, gluttony,
and pathological deceit." Regardless of whether or not tendencies are
genetic, the lifestyle choice is up to the individual. I have created
this petition to encourage organizations to present a more balanced
view of homosexual lifestyle choices and to remove the prejudicious
label that implies that homosexuals can not change. Please join me in
signing this petition at

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Join me in adding your name to the list to promote a change that would
make a real difference in the lives of those who are deceived into
thinking that there is no choice but for them to be gay, share this
with your friends, and help me get this to go viral so that we can make
a stand for what is right.

Chadwick E. Harvey

 

[Mediate]

Why should we make a stand so violently and solely focused on one sin Cwhzup13, whenever there are so many that are much more detrimental to society's wellbeing?

 

[abair]

their marriage is not a crime punishable by law so why prevent them ??
If they were not religious why they must comply with the teachings of religion ?
If we want to prevent their marriage because it is a sin
so We have the power to prevent drunks and adulterers, and all sinning from doing certain things ?
this Hypocrites

 

[jandian]

Because when we allow it to be perpetuated into our society without opposition, it finds rest, and then even the people of God begin to struggle with whether its right or wrong. This is why in the old testament, God use to tell our forefathers destroy everything., because those vices have a way of polluting nations (Sodom & Gomorrah) (NOT that we are called to destroy these people and we MUST LOVE them; but we should never endorse the behaviour.

 

[Mediate]

Not endorsing the behaviour, and telling people it is wrong (Metaphorically stoning the sin to death), is different than violently and hatefully opposing it with physical and verbal abuse and non-stop torrents of judgemental finger pointing. Holding large scale demonstrations and forcing these people into obscurity as outcasts is totally wrong. Their sin is no worse than my sins. Do we hold Christian demonstrations opposing sex before marriage? Or what about impure thought? Or what about striving for financial success and richness??

No, we don't. Take the log from our own eye. Once we're perfect, then we can condemn and thrash and bash homosexuals. Until then, judge not, lest ye be judged. Give them the bible, and let them read for themselves. Beyond that, nobody wants to know. What good will it do, (and how many will we change) if we oppose it in a way that is so self righteous and bigoted? It's one sin that a lot of Christians seem to think they can point at, ridicule and judge without consequence. But righteous anger belongs to God. We are to love.

 

[Mediate]

How can you struggle on whether it's right or wrong when several passages clearly state that God is against it? How can any bible-reading Christian be unsure as to whether God thinks it is wrong or not? Clearly He does. But He also thinks judging is wrong too. Finger pointing. Relentless hatred and preaching to people who are already so wearied and tired of being preached to. You don't change someone by force (that's only fear working in them). For someone to truly change, you can only do it (permanently) through love.

 

[Mediate]

At the end of the day, you can't just see that person as 'a homosexual'. There is more to everyone than their sins. Ever tried having a cuppa and a chat with a gay person without bringing up their sexual preference? Ever sat and jammed on the guitar, had a glass of wine or played a video game with a gay guy without preaching? Love doesn't just mean preach and hate until they change. It means looking past someone's sins to see who they are inside themselves.

When you know the person, you can love the person. And when you truly love someone regardless of their sins, you can help/mentor/talk to and teach them. If it gets too much and they feel guilty and conflicted and are sick of you talking about the subject, then here's an idea; stop taking about it and have a laugh and a joke.

 

[Mediate]

Love isn't simply just the act of preaching and trying to convert someone, it's more than that. It's not a destination it's a way of life. If you show someone compassion, patience, kindness, honesty, reserve, self-control. that's love. Going out and being a jerk about it, is somehow not what I think Jesus would do. He had people in his regular company that were of much worse social standing than a homosexual. How about prostitutes.

 

[jandian]

I'm not sure what your explaining. I have agreed that we are to love the people and not endorse the sin. AMEN