Should I Say Something

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Hazelelponi

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The Devil is who I accuse in almost all my posts. Well does he send his soldiers against me as I thwart out his plots to possess, kill, and destroy you all.
Wow... Maybe you should check yourself because honestly that's likely one of the most arrogant posts I've ever read, and I've read a lot.

Calm down, check the ego..
 

Gideon300

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No I do not imagine such a thing.

Exactly, even though some may think it's a light thing to act like the serpent, don't do it I beseech thee, the serpent is cursed for being the father of lies. He is cursed for going behind the man's back to target the woman to cause separation in them, and to simp for her in order to seduce her to die and destroy the man also. All of his ways are wrong and will not result in saving any woman. If you do his ways, you be like him and you will share in his curses, but if you will not do like him, but do openly the truth, then you have nothing to fear, you will be acquit of their curses for their great errors rather than becoming enmeshed into them, and depending how bold you are, you may attain even a blessing.
Whatever. You will give an account to God for every idle word you've said. I've said all I have to say.
 

Gideon300

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The Gospel of "This present time"? There isn't much to say, I think, other than "This present time" is so full of wickedness and turning away by choice, it can't last too much longer.
When what claims to be the church teaches of Sodom as a friend, what is there to be speaking of peace? Did God not understand what he did? Did that city get used as a warning for 5,000 years by mistake?
If you have an issue with an individual, talk to them about it. If not, quit throwing out blanket accusations.
 

Snacks

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Whatever. You will give an account to God for every idle word you've said. I've said all I have to say.
God is love, and God so loved the world He gave His own Son for us, yet some folks disregard God’s love and instead enjoy lying by saying Christians will one day endure God’s wrath. You’re right @Gideon300, he will have to give an account for his idle words.
 
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And a terribly wrong account at that.
Not of my every word and reasoning.

This is why dealing openly in the truth is better than tangled up in plots in the darkness behind the backs. It's just simply you don't have to backtrack, you just keep going forward.
 

Snacks

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Not of my every word and reasoning.

This is why dealing openly in the truth is better than tangled up in plots in the darkness behind the backs. It's just simply you don't have to backtrack, you just keep going forward.
Dealing openly in truth is indeed better than tangled up plots in darkness however that does not diminish the important relevance of plots being done in darkness if those plots save lives. That’s indisputable.
 
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WARNING: GRAPHIC ACCURATE DESCRIPTION FOLLOWS
We live with whole "churches" that are "blessing" Sodomy, the deadly act of sticking one's reproductive organ into a well-spring of POOP, running abuse against a weak sausage liner that stands between that poop, and death by sepsis via three painful days of agony after bloating with infection and organ failure.

The most basic Ol-Factory lesson we learn from a very early age "eww, that stinks, get me away" is turned on its head, for this idiocy.? It's not an accusation where it's true.
 
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Dealing openly in truth is indeed better than tangled up plots in darkness however that does not diminish the important relevance of plots being done in darkness if those plots save lives. That’s indisputable.
They won't save lives, you can't play the Devil's game without getting the Devil's end in the game. You have to play by God's way to get the results of God.
 

Snacks

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They won't save lives, you can't play the Devil's game without getting the Devil's end in the game. You have to play by God's way to get the results of God.
“They won’t save lives” 🤣🤣🤣
 

Gideon300

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We live with whole "churches" that are "blessing" Sodomy, the deadly act of sticking one's reproductive organ into a well-spring of POOP, running abuse against a weak sausage liner that stands between that poop, and death by sepsis via three painful days of agony after bloating with infection and organ failure.

The most basic Ol-Factory lesson we learn from a very early age "eww, that stinks, get me away" is turned on its head, for this idiocy.? It's not an accusation where it's true.
You have a twisted and jaundiced view of church. Not everyone accepts homosexual relationships and I know people who have left churches that do. I'd not attend one that did. "Church" is everyone who is born again, not the make believers or unbelievers who attend for selfish reasons.

You can write "Ichabod" above the door of many places that call themselves church. The real church is of Christ, clean, pure and holy in God's sight, even when we struggle with some issues.
 

Angela53510

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I know a guy who is not well liked but I treat him well and he considers me a friend. He beat his wife to the point that she left him and now he is dating a girl he knew from high school some twenty years ago. Do I warn her of his abuse, yes or no?
Absolutely! If you don't, you could be responsible for her death.

I new a woman who was in a similar situation, and warned this woman who was set to marry a very abusive man. I told her in great detail the things he had done. She replied that he had never been abusive and this man had treated her like a queen.

I lost contact with both these people, they did get married. About 5 years later I ran into the woman in a Vancouver. We talked a bit, and I asked if she was visiting Vancouver. She said no, she lived there now. She told me she was forced to leave this abusive man. Soon after they were married, his behaviour changed from Prince Charming, to the cruel and evil person I had told her about. She admitted I was totally correct, and realized he would probably never change. She was armed with the knowledge this abuser had done this before, and she needed to leave, and she did. She thanked me for giving her the common knowledge of that area.

If you fail to warn someone that a man (or woman) is dangerous, violent and even crazy, I truly believe you will in part be held responsible for what goes on, esp abuse, mental sexual, financial or physical.

As for God changing the abuser into a more gentle, kind person, he certainly could. Unfortunately, these people are not Christians, and have no motivate to obey God and become a good husband/wife. Abusers are sociopaths and psychopaths. They have zero empathy, they are extremely controlling, and do not care more for their spouses than themselves and their evil motivations. Never tell anyone to stay with an abuser.

I remember arguing with a long time Christian woman about that. She believed the woman should go back to her abuser and show him the light of Christ. People who can hurt and damage other people without remorse will never be suddenly changed because the spouse returned to be a doormat. They are blind, and cannot see the love of God in their spouse. No woman (or man) should ever have to live in an abusive marriage. In Canada, it is against the law to abuse your spouse. These people can and will go to jail for the crime of assault and battery at the very least! They are criminals. Would you let a criminal continue to batter their spouses/girlfriends? I hope a warning is the least anyone would do.
 

Angela53510

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Yes, women who are abused are often children of abusive fathers, so see the abuse as a proof of loving relationships. They just as often will engage the male to bring out/up the violence, as "proof" of "caring."
Further, while it would seem contrary to popular culture, men who abuse their spouses have other qualities (still made in the image of God) that endear them as average humans, though this particular sin may be more obvious and "obnoxious" to us as flesh and blood, and loving neighbors.
I think you should pray, and pray some more, for his salvation. If he's claiming he's saved, help him pray for the Fruits of the Spirit, and keep him on point with those prayers. Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self Control.
It's called The Battered Woman Syndrome. A girl grows up being abused by a father, step-father, uncle, etc, the lesson she learns is that she is worthless, not loveable. She also believes that ALL men are like this. So when a boyfriend or spouse stats abusing her, the woman literally knows no other way of life. She has no idea she can walk away!

https://www.healthline.com/health/relationships/cycle-of-abuse#limitations

https://www.peaceoverviolence.org/iii-the-cycle-of-violence-and-power-and-control

I took courses on abuse when I was a chaplain working with people. I hope people will read these articles!
 

Angela53510

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Arrrgh, you mispelled PEACE, or misused the term to mean what other's would say with 2 Cents, as "piece." Now I have to reply since I'm here replying to the abused peace, or I won't get any peace.

So in this case, the Title is "Should I Say Something" which is slightly different than the direct request inside the OP. The answer to his thread title, is that he should teach Gospel. The answer to his internal OP question is, so far, best answered by A Sword Cometh, I think.
Actually, the right homonym was PIECE. "We've spoken our piece." Very similar to "give you a piece of my Mind!" In other words, a portion, part, our opinion.

"What does it mean to give someone a piece?

phrase. If you give someone a piece of your mind, you tell them very clearly that you think they have behaved badly."

Peace as you spell it, is an absence of anger, troubled, noise, animosity.

"freedom from disturbance; tranquility.
"you can while away an hour or two in peace and seclusion"

I detest spelling errors that are just laziness. But even worse is someone posting something right, and another person condemning them and telling them they are wrong, when they are not!