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I am sure you both are fine parents. Parenting is really a series of management decisions anyway. We do the best we can but the truth is that we all will screw up our kids in some way that they will need to work thru. I do know that my son will never question his value to me. I've made it my mission in life to get that one right.
Who initiated the "reconnection?" The mother (God) did by letting the child know that she had not really ever "separated" herself from the child. She shows "love" without the child doing anything but being confused and frustrated. This is exactly how God always shows us He has not stopped loving us (separated himself from us.) Not by stolidly waiting until we prove our worthiness.
If they performed this same experiment the next day, the same things would have happened... the child would fuss and cry. And then if they kept doing it day after day, it would be repeated each time they tortured the child with this doubt and insecurity.
What "lesson" has been taught to this child? None. It is just repeatedly being frustrated.
If they performed this same experiment the next day, the same things would have happened... the child would fuss and cry. And then if they kept doing it day after day, it would be repeated each time they tortured the child with this doubt and insecurity.
What "lesson" has been taught to this child? None. It is just repeatedly being frustrated.
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Oh willie. Life is full of the good and the bad. The ugly is when there is no reconnection. Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing....and out of ignorance no less. The video was an illustration of what happens to a person when there is no reconnection. I can't help you see outside of your tunnel.
Someone told me privately this morning that you could not let this rest until you had gotten in the last word. I could hardly believe what they said. But, now that I have tried to let you have the last post, some three times now, I see that they just might be right. So make your reply to this, and unless you just insist on a come-back, I will let you content yourself with believing you are right in everything. Let's just hope it works out that way.
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I see a counselor twice a month. Not only does he specialize in restorative therapy for adults but he is also a child counselor. I brought this to him with with all of the details as to how the op went down...because I always use his extra set of eyes with not only my struggles and trials but with my parenting as well. It should be noted that he is also a Christain man. He told me that this was fantastic parenting. There is nothing to be undone with how I taught my child and that this was great discipleship.
For the record Willie...I believe you took a low view of me when you said I posted this for a pat on the back. The truth is...I posted this as an example of what real discipleship looks like and I am very good at discipling my son.
For the record Willie...I believe you took a low view of me when you said I posted this for a pat on the back. The truth is...I posted this as an example of what real discipleship looks like and I am very good at discipling my son.
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And I simply told you that I cannot, with a clear conscience, get behind telling our children inaccuracies about the Bible, even if we do feel doing so makes a good story lesson. You, not me, are the one who took that one plain statement and turned it into somehow being an affront to your parenting skills.
The beauty of the lesson you COULD have taught him is just what I posted, Genesis 3:22-24.
God had already given them the immediate punishment of the childbirth pain and the sweat-of-the-brow, working the soil. The true love came when He blocked their continued access to the Tree of Life. By doing what appeared (to them... and I guess, you, too) to be even more punishing, He was actually putting them in line to one day be able to receive even more gloriously ETERNAL life than that which they enjoyed in the garden when Jesus finally came and took care of the punishing law they were now going to have to live under.
My only question was that you would withhold the most wondrous part of the Garden Story by saying God kicked them out of the home he provided for them because they disobeyed. No, they got their "spanking", as it were, in the curses pronounced on them. The expulsion was, though they didn't recognize it, the "leading" of God into the plan of redemption.
And the "separating Himself" from them was totally contrary to what is shown in the story, in which He remained right there with them, first, searching them out when THEY were separating themselves from Him by hiding, then talking with them, then clothing them, etc. And Eve even said, later when her child was born, that this "was the child God had given her."
This is the kind of love I think a child needs to understand.... not a Father-figure who runs His kids off in anger, barring the way for them to return home with a flaming sword. I think a child needs to see, that right from the very first sin, that God set up a plan to bring them home to Him.
God had already given them the immediate punishment of the childbirth pain and the sweat-of-the-brow, working the soil. The true love came when He blocked their continued access to the Tree of Life. By doing what appeared (to them... and I guess, you, too) to be even more punishing, He was actually putting them in line to one day be able to receive even more gloriously ETERNAL life than that which they enjoyed in the garden when Jesus finally came and took care of the punishing law they were now going to have to live under.
My only question was that you would withhold the most wondrous part of the Garden Story by saying God kicked them out of the home he provided for them because they disobeyed. No, they got their "spanking", as it were, in the curses pronounced on them. The expulsion was, though they didn't recognize it, the "leading" of God into the plan of redemption.
And the "separating Himself" from them was totally contrary to what is shown in the story, in which He remained right there with them, first, searching them out when THEY were separating themselves from Him by hiding, then talking with them, then clothing them, etc. And Eve even said, later when her child was born, that this "was the child God had given her."
This is the kind of love I think a child needs to understand.... not a Father-figure who runs His kids off in anger, barring the way for them to return home with a flaming sword. I think a child needs to see, that right from the very first sin, that God set up a plan to bring them home to Him.
Thank you. And, my wife just read these last few posts. She tore me up!
She said.... "You're a therapist with a quarter of a century of experience, and you were stupid enough to use the inflammatory "YOU" word when discussing this kind of subject?
She's right. I just wasn't thinking of replying in clinical mode. I'm sorry.
She said.... "You're a therapist with a quarter of a century of experience, and you were stupid enough to use the inflammatory "YOU" word when discussing this kind of subject?
She's right. I just wasn't thinking of replying in clinical mode. I'm sorry.