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SophieT

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Aidan1 said:
What i noticed in your country is that the gap between rep and dem is very deep and it involves also the Christians. And I asked me why?
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man with the problems y'all have in Germany, I would not point fingers

not all who call themselves Christians are such. Biden calls himself a good Catholic, but gives a thumbs up to abortion

see how that works? you post as though you know all about the US, but if you did, you would not be asking why. if you notice anything, it is not from first hand experience and if from the left, then it is slanted towards lying and painting a bad picture of those who do not think the US should become a socialist refuge for it's place in the global one world economy that those directed by evil spiritual forces are trying to force on us

some problems in Germany right now:

  • language.
  • Hate crimes.
  • Immigration.
  • Nostalgia and anti-Communism.
  • Discrimination.
  • Gay issues.
not to mention economic problems. sounds quite a bit like the rest of many countries including this one
 
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flygplan

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Aidan1 said:
What i noticed in your country is that the gap between rep and dem is very deep and it involves also the Christians. And I asked me why?
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I've asked myself the same thing, meanwhile Christians around the world scratch their heads and wonder why Christians in America support someone like him haha. I sometimes find it entertaining but it's also sad...
 
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flygplan

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SophieT said:
man with the problems y'all have in Germany, I would not point fingers

not all who call themselves Christians are such. Biden calls himself a good Catholic, but gives a thumbs up to abortion

see how that works? you post as though you know all about the US, but if you did, you would not be asking why. if you notice anything, it is not from first hand experience and if from the left, then it is slanted towards lying and painting a bad picture of those who do not think the US should become a socialist refuge for it's place in the global one world economy that those directed by evil spiritual forces are trying to force on us

some problems in Germany right now:

  • language.
  • Hate crimes.
  • Immigration.
  • Nostalgia and anti-Communism.
  • Discrimination.
  • Gay issues.
not to mention economic problems. sounds quite a bit like the rest of many countries including this one
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I think what Aidan1 asks most of anything, which I ask myself too many times is why Christianity is so politicized, especially in America. In the end we are talking about politics and politicians either way; right or left, I won't believe they will ever have my best interests in mind, other than their own. I don't feel fully supportive of either.
These 6 issues you are pointing out as of Germany's are the same issues happening in EVERY country in the world, included the U.S. and are not exclusive of Germany, so I really don't know what your point is exactly.
 
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flygplan

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[/QUOTE]it is interesting how the left in the US has actually adopted and is utilizing exactly that type of control

while the right in this country, does no such thing.

so while one can go by the dictionary def as I did above, the meanings of words do change over time and we have a very good example of it in this country[/QUOTE]

How is it the right doesn't do such thing? You just posted a dictionary definition yourself! And Nope, meaning of words do not change. You pull the dictionary meaning on your own... and yet refuse to accept the meaning.

I definitely do not have a left wing stance in politics or even ideology, but being willingly blind to what the extreme other side can bring is just as bad.
 
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SophieT

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You just posted a dictionary definition yourself
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yes I did and noted how the left had adopted it. your comments are either deliberately misleading or you have a comprehension problem

it is bizarre you think anyone might be willingly blind when you do not know them at all

your conspiracy theory about Trump is duly noted. but as I said, it is not Trump in particular, but anything the right does the left will find a way to call it evil

unless you are Aidans lawyer, I don't need you to interpret and speak for him to me
 
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SophieT

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flygplan said:
These 6 issues you are pointing out as of Germany's are the same issues happening in EVERY country in the world, included the U.S. and are not exclusive of Germany, so I really don't know what your point is exactly.
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there is something wrong with your comprehension it seems because you would hardly twist what I said I'm sure :rolleyes:

or is it maybe your eyesight?

I'll help you out. this is what I actually said in the post you are misquoting

"SophieT, post: 4568753, member: 303760"]some problems in Germany right now:

  • language.
  • Hate crimes.
  • Immigration.
  • Nostalgia and anti-Communism.
  • Discrimination.
  • Gay issues.
not to mention economic problems. sounds quite a bit like the rest of many countries including this one post 321

there you go. hope that helps you out.

you know, I'm actually going with deliberately twisting what I said. troll like behavior
 
Aidan1

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SophieT said:
man with the problems y'all have in Germany, I would not point fingers

not all who call themselves Christians are such. Biden calls himself a good Catholic, but gives a thumbs up to abortion

see how that works? you post as though you know all about the US, but if you did, you would not be asking why. if you notice anything, it is not from first hand experience and if from the left, then it is slanted towards lying and painting a bad picture of those who do not think the US should become a socialist refuge for it's place in the global one world economy that those directed by evil spiritual forces are trying to force on us

some problems in Germany right now:

  • language.
  • Hate crimes.
  • Immigration.
  • Nostalgia and anti-Communism.
  • Discrimination.
  • Gay issues.
not to mention economic problems. sounds quite a bit like the rest of many countries including this one
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Well, did I said that Germany is moralic better than any state? America is ore was for many people in the west an ideal. America is our friend. When Trump came up, he destroyed a lot with his politic.
But this is not the point. I am a german, but I am also a Christian. Out of around 3-4 % believers in germany. (As you said no all who call himself Christians realy are Christians )
As Christian i def me not state wise. My country is not so important then a brother ore sister in the Lord, doesnt matter from which country.
This World will gone with their nationalities.
I have the Impression that you def yourself more about your nationality and the political Party you belong. So does your brother in the Lord not belongs to your Party he is an enemy. I am not shure that this is the way to come together as followers of Christ.
And United is that what brings f.e. forward.
The goal america first will not work, if you dont overcame the gaps between rep ore dem.
This is what i noticed f.e on CC among Christians.
The Pandemie is not political, but is used as Tool. Not for to work to gether, but for to split.
 
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flygplan

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SophieT:

Thanks for taking the time to show me your point of view in such a kind manner! And also for calling me a troll! I feel so warm and fuzzy inside for your Christ-like behavior. Have a great weekend!
 
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mailmandan said:
Biden: China thinks it will 'own America' by 2035
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And why not? As soon as the Chinese virus was released, China started owning America big time.

Not a single American governor said " We must investigate Fauci and China immediately, and find out why Trump appointed Fraudulent Fauci to head up his Task Force".
 
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SophieT

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Aidan1 said:
Well, did I said that Germany is moralic better than any state? America is ore was for many people in the west an ideal. America is our friend. When Trump came up, he destroyed a lot with his politic.
But this is not the point. I am a german, but I am also a Christian. Out of around 3-4 % believers in germany. (As you said no all who call himself Christians realy are Christians )
As Christian i def me not state wise. My country is not so important then a brother ore sister in the Lord, doesnt matter from which country.
This World will gone with their nationalities.
I have the Impression that you def yourself more about your nationality and the political Party you belong. So does your brother in the Lord not belongs to your Party he is an enemy. I am not shure that this is the way to come together as followers of Christ.
And United is that what brings f.e. forward.
The goal america first will not work, if you dont overcame the gaps between rep ore dem.
This is what i noticed f.e on CC among Christians.
The Pandemie is not political, but is used as Tool. Not for to work to gether, but for to split.
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your comprehension and I know English is not your 1st language, needs work. maybe brush up on your English if you are going to post in English. Your response to my post is ridiculous.

you don't live in the US and you have no idea of what you are talking about. Not going to respond again as it leads nowhere and then some

whatever
 
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flygplan

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SophieT said:
your comprehension and I know English is not your 1st language, needs work. maybe brush up on your English if you are going to post in English. Your response to my post is ridiculous.

you don't live in the US and you have no idea of what you are talking about. Not going to respond again as it leads nowhere and then some

whatever
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I think he has a very good idea of what he's talking about.
 
Aidan1

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SophieT said:
your comprehension and I know English is not your 1st language, needs work. maybe brush up on your English if you are going to post in English. Your response to my post is ridiculous.

you don't live in the US and you have no idea of what you are talking about. Not going to respond again as it leads nowhere and then some

whatever
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Of course english is not my first language and I dont live in the states and never was.
So I only talk about that what is obvious to see. Sometimes it may be helpful to look from distance for understand the situation.


I cant believe that you could not understand my post. It is very clear written. You may dont like it, otherwise you would agree.

Ore tell me where i was wrong in my post.
( i mean not an correction of my english)
 
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I think the dishonesty of the information distributed about vaccines is also dangerous. One would think that it would behoove the disseminators of information to be fair and forthcoming with information about the vaccine, the dangers, and more. Instead, they double down, triple down rather than break narrative at the expense of their diminished credibility.

The data and information surrounding covid-19, the vaccine, and peoples' responses to it have been more like an information warfare rather than an honest discussion. No wonder so many people don't trust the government and the propaganda from the media. They would be better off just starting over, issuing a public apology, then dropping the whole charade about vaccines. Not everyone will be fooled by the lies, time to deal with that and move on.
 
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flygplan

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Runningman said:
I think the dishonesty of the information distributed about vaccines is also dangerous. One would think that it would behoove the disseminators of information to be fair and forthcoming with information about the vaccine, the dangers, and more. Instead, they double down, triple down rather than break narrative at the expense of their diminished credibility.

The data and information surrounding covid-19, the vaccine, and peoples' responses to it have been more like an information warfare rather than an honest discussion. No wonder so many people don't trust the government and the propaganda from the media. They would be better off just starting over, issuing a public apology, then dropping the whole charade about vaccines. Not everyone will be fooled by the lies, time to deal with that and move on.
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I have to agree with you on most of this. However, just as COVID-19 was all new and everything was being figured out on the go, while all this happened more than half a million people died from it in the US, and in developing countries the numbers are usually much larger than what they report. So, I think this is what's more alarming than the conspiracy theories that surround it, of course we won't take and swallow everything the gov't feeds us, but we can also know the US is lucky enough to be a country which government represents the people more than in other countries, so actions like this respond to the need there is to overcome a pandemic. Is it the best method? who knows, we will see. I know what it is to be in a country where polio and other diseases are still around, and vaccination is actually tangibly changing things. Life is shorter than we think, for better or for worse, I rather trust in God to help me make the wisest decisions and I know that human life is just a blink when it comes to timelines.
All in all, an approach and explanation like you just gave is very far from spreading falsehoods and unfounded fear, which is how this topic was starting.
 
Nehemiah6

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flygplan said:
So, I think this is what's more alarming than the conspiracy theories that surround it, of course we won't take and swallow everything the gov't feeds us, but we can also know the US is lucky enough to be a country which government represents the people more than in other countries...
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Looks like you have been asleep recently since you continue to apply the derogatory term "conspiracy theory" to what was -- and is -- an actual conspiracy.

So what do you know about Anthony Fauci that makes you think you are lucky to have a government which represents you? After it was clearly established recently that coronavirus was a man-made bioweapon created in Wuhan, China, the MSM has been forced to admit that that was no conspiracy theory. And all the naysayers have been forced to admit that Fauci was illegally funding this weaponization of a dangerous virus, and lying about everything. So now that the conspiracy is unraveling you should apologize for calling it a "conspiracy theory".

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, allegedly justified experimenting on contagious viruses as worth the risk of a laboratory accident, such as a global pandemic, outlining his view in an American Society for Microbiology analysis in October 2012, according to a report from The Australian."
https://www.infowars.com/posts/repo...ous-viruses-worth-the-risk-of-a-lab-accident/

So how could a remedy for coronavirus have been ready even before there were any infections? Ask Fauci and his buddy at Gilead Sciences who already had a plan in place. "Gilead began to research remdesivir as a possible drug for treating COVID-19 in January of 2020." [Note: this is not really true. It was much earlier]

As a result this petition was circulated: "Require Dr. Anthony Fauci disclose financial relationship with Gilead Sciences"

"...For example, nine of the experts on the NIH COVID-19 Panel recommending treatment options have disclosed financial support from Gilead Sciences. See those individuals here: https://covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/panel-financial-disclosure/..."

"The NIH, whom Dr. Fauci is a part of, recently made controversial changes to its study conducted by Remdesevir. This includes changing the end goal of the study, as well as administering previously placebo-assigned patients Remdesivir. Learn more at STAT News here.

According to Peter Daszak, an expert on disease ecology and President of EcoHealth Alliance, a grant overseen by Dr. Fauci previously helped test Remdesivir. The testing also happened in the lab in Wuhan suspected of leaking the current Coronavirus responsible for the outbreak. "

https://www.change.org/p/national-i...e-financial-relationship-with-gilead-sciences
 
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Derogatory term... smh haha
 
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