What is the truth to Vaccines?

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Roughsoul1991

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Electively aborted fetuses to down syndrome to government conspiracies.

What is your stance on the many different Vaccines we are told to get?
 

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If there was a vaccine that prevented abortion I would be all for the development of such a product.
 

Lanolin

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er..I got flu vaccine, but I chose to get it cos I dont want to get flu and be sick and expose children to it or have to be off work and then there be no library for them cos I am sick.
iVe had it for nearly two weeks and no ill effects so far, it is the first time I had it. It vaccinates for 4 different strains. we get reimbursed for the shots by the ministry of education. It does not vaccinate against covid-19 though, there is no vaccine for that.


Do your research and ask your doctor about it, get the facts.

there was a measles epidemic in Samoa where children died because they did not get vaccinated. There are no serious measle cases here in nZ because children DO get vaccinated. I have been vaccinated as child.

down syndrome as far as I know is not related to vaccines at all. Thalidomide was not a vaccine and was used backin the day and caused birth defects when it was given to PREGNANT mothers.
 

Roughsoul1991

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If there was a vaccine that prevented abortion I would be all for the development of such a product.
Lol I meant that some Vaccines are created by using aborted fetuses.
 

Roughsoul1991

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er..I got flu vaccine, but I chose to get it cos I dont want to get flu and be sick and expose children to it or have to be off work and then there be no library for them cos I am sick.
iVe had it for nearly two weeks and no ill effects so far, it is the first time I had it. It vaccinates for 4 different strains. we get reimbursed for the shots by the ministry of education. It does not vaccinate against covid-19 though, there is no vaccine for that.


Do your research and ask your doctor about it, get the facts.

there was a measles epidemic in Samoa where children died because they did not get vaccinated. There are no serious measle cases here in nZ because children DO get vaccinated. I have been vaccinated as child.

down syndrome as far as I know is not related to vaccines at all. Thalidomide was not a vaccine and was used backin the day and caused birth defects when it was given to PREGNANT mothers.
What is your take on some are created with use of elective aborted fetuses? I hear this often but how much truth is to that?
 

Lanolin

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I am not sure about those...they may just be a rumour someones spreading to scare people.
But I do know that collagen and other weird beauty product can be made from tissue so I would steer clear of those products and just use natural products that are plant based to put on my skin. Botox? no way.

You need to investigate what the medical profession are doing with the aborted fetuses, as far as I know thry just burn them as biohazardous waste.
 

Lanolin

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which is horrible in of itself as those unborn babies arent given a proper burial.
I dont consider cremation to be right myself or what God intends for his children. But thats another topic.
 
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What is your stance on the many different Vaccines we are told to get?
Here is a source of excellent information on vaccines.
https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/be-brave-pt1-vaccine-science-settled/

People should note that the government of UK has spent over 90 million dollars (or perhaps GBP) to discover that a vaccine could not be produced for coronavirus as yet. But China is once again publishing disinformation about this.

"All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected when challenged, as judged by recovery of virus genomic RNA from nasal secretions. There was no difference in the amount of viral RNA detected from this site in the vaccinated monkeys as compared to the unvaccinated animals. Which is to say, all vaccinated animals were infected."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...cine-work-in-monkeys-not-really/#262bcf763c71

Also it has now come to light that COVID-19 was manipulated to attack human cells when it has actually originated in animals. So it would be fair to say that Wuhan virus was being prepared as a BIO-WEAPON by China (for use against the free World, but with cash donated by the US government!)
 

Hungry

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What is your take on some are created with use of elective aborted fetuses? I hear this often but how much truth is to that?
I heard they can and do make vaccines from the antibodies of dead people. It’s not like they powder them up. Since there are some elitists who believe the perfect population for the earth is 500,000,000, I would not be surprised if there is attempts to kill off mass amounts of people. Since you don’t want to just go randomly killing the young and strong like a war will do, a virus that eliminates the old and the weak is an intelligent way a sociopath can accomplish this. When it comes to flu shots, that’s who get them. There are evil people out there. Also there are sheep who just want to be part of something bigger than themselves. I don’t think it’s hard to convince people to do evil things if they think they are serving the greater good. We weren’t sure about vaccinations being linked to autism when our kids were small. We just waited until they were 10-12.
 
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I’ve never had a flu shot and am not about to begin. And I’m glad for the stand our President Trump has taken against mandated vaccinations. It’s not that I don’t see the value of being protected by the vaccines, it’s who has access to it. Motives of life.

Theres the real problem imo.
 
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I’ve never had a flu shot and am not about to begin. And I’m glad for the stand our President Trump has taken against mandated vaccinations. It’s not that I don’t see the value of being protected by the vaccines, it’s who has access to it. Motives of life.

Theres the real problem imo.
My main problem is some are connected to abortions.

As for mandatory vaccination. I feel many are already that way if you want equal treatment. To be enrolled in public or college a child has to be updated and to join the military or work for certain medical occupations.
 

EleventhHour

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My main problem is some are connected to abortions.

As for mandatory vaccination. I feel many are already that way if you want equal treatment. To be enrolled in public or college a child has to be updated and to join the military or work for certain medical occupations.
Just an fyi... the aborted fetal cell lines are from 1960's
They do not use abortions as an ongoing source.

The fetal embryo fibroblast cells used to grow vaccine viruses were first obtained from elective termination of two pregnancies in the early 1960s. These same embryonic cells obtained from the early 1960s have continued to grow in the laboratory and are used to make vaccines today. No further sources of fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines.

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My main problem is some are connected to abortions.

As for mandatory vaccination. I feel many are already that way if you want equal treatment. To be enrolled in public or college a child has to be updated and to join the military or work for certain medical occupations.
That’s true concerning mandated vaccinations. I was an LPN working in med-surgery at the time of my injury, and the flu vaccination was not mandatory at that time, but there was the push to go on to the RN degree and I know that eventually I would need to do so to continue my job.

I guess it was the scripture working good from a bad circumstance and never had to decide.

And I wasn’t aware of the info just posted about the 1960’s fetuses. Interesting!
 
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Just an fyi... the aborted fetal cell lines are from 1960's
They do not use abortions as an ongoing source.

The fetal embryo fibroblast cells used to grow vaccine viruses were first obtained from elective termination of two pregnancies in the early 1960s. These same embryonic cells obtained from the early 1960s have continued to grow in the laboratory and are used to make vaccines today. No further sources of fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines.

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Well that was what I was hoping someone could answer. But I dont know how I feel that the first 2 was elected abortions. The greater good cost two innocent lives. I wonder if they could of used adult stem cells.
 
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My concern is a possible use of body parts from aborted babies for the rich wicked who want to “live forever here” without having to face inevitable judgement.

Sounds way out there?
 
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My concern is a possible use of body parts from aborted babies for the rich wicked who want to “live forever here” without having to face inevitable judgement.

Sounds way out there?
Unfortunately embryo stem cells was a massive project that involves the destruction of a embryo. Then they began studying adult stem cells which doesn't involve killing anything. They have been seeing great influence in adult stem cells.
 

Papou

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Electively aborted fetuses to down syndrome to government conspiracies.

What is your stance on the many different Vaccines we are told to get?
Vaccines are great and have help get rid of several infectious diseases. Aborted fetuses were not used to develop these vaccines and this is not what is being used in today development .
 
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Vaccines are great and have help get rid of several infectious diseases. Aborted fetuses were not used to develop these vaccines and this is not what is being used in today development .
Is this your opinion or is there evidence to support this because I'm trying to build an educated opinion.