Alex Jones hearings

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Dude653

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C'mon, this is obviously some kind of comedy routine. You say it is a false equivalency with the inquisition while at the same time telling us he will burn in hell?
The Inquisition was accusing people of things with no evidence like accusing people of being witches, etc
Alex Jones is a proven liar.
Even got caught twice lying on the witness stand
 

ZNP

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It's only defamation if it's untrue. I don't believe that has been demonstrated.
It would seem to be highly offensive and irresponsible to make the statements he made about the school shooting unless he had proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was true.
 

ZNP

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The Inquisition was accusing people of things with no evidence like accusing people of being witches, etc
Alex Jones is a proven liar.
Even got caught twice lying on the witness stand
No. This is from History.com

The Inquisition was a powerful office set up within the Catholic Church to root out and punish heresy throughout Europe and the Americas. Beginning in the 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims. Its worst manifestation was in Spain, where the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions.


Regardless of whether or not Alex Jones lied on the witness stand it seems very obvious to me, a casual observer with no dog in the fight, that he is being punished for heresy against the powers that be.

If the judgement had been $100 million, $1 million to each of the 100 families he offended I'd agree that the analogy is poor. But it was so over the top and you have these raving lunatics running around telling people he needs to burn in hell, that I'll stick with my analogy being appropriate.
 

Dude653

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No. This is from History.com

The Inquisition was a powerful office set up within the Catholic Church to root out and punish heresy throughout Europe and the Americas. Beginning in the 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims. Its worst manifestation was in Spain, where the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions.

Regardless of whether or not Alex Jones lied on the witness stand it seems very obvious to me, a casual observer with no dog in the fight, that he is being punished for heresy against the powers that be.

If the judgement had been $100 million, $1 million to each of the 100 families he offended I'd agree that the analogy is poor. But it was so over the top and you have these raving lunatics running around telling people he needs to burn in hell, that I'll stick with my analogy being appropriate.
No. He's being held accountable. He slandered in defamed grieving families and profited while doing so. I make no apologies when I say if you support this man then never speak to me again about anything biblical or Christianity
 

Moses_Young

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It would seem to be highly offensive and irresponsible to make the statements he made about the school shooting unless he had proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was true.
You doubt such evidence exists? The laughing father alone (who turned on the tears for the cameras) is all the evidence I need to require further proof of claim. And that might involve asking some pretty searching questions of the alleged bereaved. Feelings might be hurt! :eek:
 

ZNP

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No. He's being held accountable. He slandered in defamed grieving families and profited while doing so. I make no apologies when I say if you support this man then never speak to me again about anything biblical or Christianity
"How else do they learn"

 

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It's only defamation if it's untrue. I don't believe that has been demonstrated.
Not sure how you can say for sure 100% it was a false flag unless you were there on that day and know every individual that was involved?
 

Dude653

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"How else do they learn"

I don't know why I keep having to repeat this but this man slandered and defamed craving families and profited while doing so and you're trying to turn him into a martyr
This is why you have lost any and all credibility trying to tell me anything about the Bible or Christianity
 

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Dude653

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Not sure how you can say for sure 100% it was a false flag unless you were there on that day and know every individual that was involved?
Occam's razor. The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions is usually the logical path you want to pursue
So which scenario is more likely,
A.. it didn't happen and the police department, the local hospital, the corner, the local news stations, and the entire town is in on the LIE or
B.. it really happened
 

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Not sure how you can say for sure 100% it was a false flag unless you were there on that day and know every individual that was involved?
My default position for most of the rubbish from the Lame Stream Fake News is that if they can't prove it happened beyond all reasonable doubt, I reject it. Sandy Hoax falls into that category for me. Lots of plot holes in the story - Lame Stream Fake News failed in its job (once again). If they want me to believe it happened, they've gotta prove it, and address all those plot holes instead of suing independent journalists for millions for hurting feelings of a bunch of what are most likely crisis actors, whilst genocidal Communists like Fauci and Billy Boy get a free pass and accolades.
 

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You doubt such evidence exists? The laughing father alone (who turned on the tears for the cameras) is all the evidence I need to require further proof of claim. And that might involve asking some pretty searching questions of the alleged bereaved. Feelings might be hurt! :eek:
It seems preposterous to me that if this were true that the it could be kept secret.

The claim, as I understand it is, that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax.

If that were true then teachers would have to be in on it, police would have to be in on it, parents of all the children supposedly shot would have to be in on it, the pastors who ran the funerals would have to be in on it, the people who signed the death certificates would have to be in on it, the EMT's would have to be in on it, and they would have to somehow hide these children.

So to answer your question "do I doubt that Sandy Hook was a hoax?" Yes.
 

ZNP

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I don't know why I keep having to repeat this but this man slandered and defamed craving families and profited while doing so and you're trying to turn him into a martyr
This is why you have lost any and all credibility trying to tell me anything about the Bible or Christianity
No, I didn't turn him into a martyr, you did. If he had been sued according to the law, and if the law had been followed concerning the limits you can have in a defamation lawsuit, then it would have been what it was. But once they threw off that limit and turned it into a billion dollar defamation, then it became something else.
 

Dude653

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It seems preposterous to me that if this were true that the it could be kept secret.

The claim, as I understand it is, that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax.

If that were true then teachers would have to be in on it, police would have to be in on it, parents of all the children supposedly shot would have to be in on it, the pastors who ran the funerals would have to be in on it, the people who signed the death certificates would have to be in on it, the EMT's would have to be in on it, and they would have to somehow hide these children.

So to answer your question "do I doubt that Sandy Hook was a hoax?" Yes.
Okay so why are you propping up Alex Jones is this pillar of Truth when he was caught lying about Sandy Hook?
Why are you turning him into a martyr when he clearly brought this on himself?
Oh... And he still slandering people after having been sued for a billion dollars.
 

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My default position for most of the rubbish from the Lame Stream Fake News is that if they can't prove it happened beyond all reasonable doubt, I reject it. Sandy Hoax falls into that category for me. Lots of plot holes in the story - Lame Stream Fake News failed in its job (once again). If they want me to believe it happened, they've gotta prove it, and address all those plot holes instead of suing independent journalists for millions for hurting feelings of a bunch of what are most likely crisis actors, whilst genocidal Communists like Fauci and Billy Boy get a free pass and accolades.
Same standard should apply to Alex Jones I would think, did he prove his position?
 

Moses_Young

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Same standard should apply to Alex Jones I would think, did he prove his position?
I respect that reasoning. But in my view, Alex Jones doesn't have the track record of lying that the LSM does. I'm sure in time, we will learn the truth. And I'm fairly confident I am right. ;-) (But even if wrong, it was a legitimate accusation judging by the alleged father's reaction).
 

Dude653

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And after having been sued for a billion dollars, he's STILL slandering people
Hey recently went after Sam Harris, playing like a 10 second clip entirely out of context trying to make it look like Harris supports eating babies
 

HeIsHere

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I respect that reasoning. But in my view, Alex Jones doesn't have the track record of lying that the LSM does. I'm sure in time, we will learn the truth. And I'm fairly confident I am right. ;-) (But even if wrong, it was a legitimate accusation judging by the alleged father's reaction).
Do you think the entire thing was a hoax, as in they were all actors or a mix of truth and fakery?
 

ZNP

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Okay so why are you propping up Alex Jones is this pillar of Truth when he was caught lying about Sandy Hook?
Why are you turning him into a martyr when he clearly brought this on himself?
Oh... And he still slandering people after having been sued for a billion dollars.
Where did I prop him up?