Another School Shooting, this time in Coral Spings, Florida
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It's a fun weapon to shoot. It's dirt cheap to buy (about $300 to $600). The ammo isn't too expensive. It can easily be modified (silenced, fully auto, extended clips, etc...) It's a powerful and versatile weapon that just about anyone can afford. I'll admit, it is a bit scary how just about anyone can get their hands on one.
I think you missed my point.
ANY semiautomatic rifle that fires .223/5.56mm runs about the same price range as the AR-15, and can be modified in the same ways (legal or not). My point was that for some unknown reason these morons buy the AR-15 rather than the Ruger Ranch Rifle (same price range, same ammo, etc.)
PS.....I'd love to know where you think you can find one for between $300 and $600 (other than maybe used).
ANY semiautomatic rifle that fires .223/5.56mm runs about the same price range as the AR-15, and can be modified in the same ways (legal or not). My point was that for some unknown reason these morons buy the AR-15 rather than the Ruger Ranch Rifle (same price range, same ammo, etc.)
PS.....I'd love to know where you think you can find one for between $300 and $600 (other than maybe used).
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Completely agree. I was discussing this with a friend after the Vegas incident happened.
I really don't think there are any "worldly" solutions at all because what you're dealing with are the actions of others, and you can't control what's in another person's heart. The most sane individual could one day snap and go on a killing fest. Banning guns is not the answer because criminals will always have them, making others an easy target... unless of course every single gun on the planet was eradicated (an absolute impossibility as we know) and even then you would become a slave to worldly governments that do have access to them.
The reality is that any object can become a weapon. Even prisoners are skilled at making, what they call, "shanks," which have the ability to kill someone. And then there are those that are trained in martial arts and can kill someone without use of weapons. And I really don't want to be stuck without a car if they ban those, or stuck eating my dinner with my hands if they feel the need to ban cutlery also, lol
These are probably strange comments coming from a Brit. My family obviously do not share my views, as do the majority if not all Brits, but how would they feel if Isis showed up at their doors?
So when you consider everything there really is no "worldly" solution at all. Obviously the possession of machine guns/military style weapons are not necessary and no-one should have access to those. I don't know much about guns, but I think that Vegas guy modified his to make it fire like a machine gun... and with these 3D printers you can make any parts that you need now for anything, so how could you even prevent that?
I really don't think there are any "worldly" solutions at all because what you're dealing with are the actions of others, and you can't control what's in another person's heart. The most sane individual could one day snap and go on a killing fest. Banning guns is not the answer because criminals will always have them, making others an easy target... unless of course every single gun on the planet was eradicated (an absolute impossibility as we know) and even then you would become a slave to worldly governments that do have access to them.
The reality is that any object can become a weapon. Even prisoners are skilled at making, what they call, "shanks," which have the ability to kill someone. And then there are those that are trained in martial arts and can kill someone without use of weapons. And I really don't want to be stuck without a car if they ban those, or stuck eating my dinner with my hands if they feel the need to ban cutlery also, lol
These are probably strange comments coming from a Brit. My family obviously do not share my views, as do the majority if not all Brits, but how would they feel if Isis showed up at their doors?
So when you consider everything there really is no "worldly" solution at all. Obviously the possession of machine guns/military style weapons are not necessary and no-one should have access to those. I don't know much about guns, but I think that Vegas guy modified his to make it fire like a machine gun... and with these 3D printers you can make any parts that you need now for anything, so how could you even prevent that?
Well Hornetguy and Katy-follower, I think families should police their own ranks for a person that becomes mentally unstable. That would still leave a person without family for whatever reason to be dealt with. If our society were more community based, we could have an oversight committee for that. With that lacking, it is up to the mental health practitioners to follow through when someone becomes unstable. They should work with the local law enforcement agencies. We have some of that now, but it needs more participation from mental health doctors. My thoughts, anyway.
Well Hornetguy and Katy-follower, I think families should police their own ranks for a person that becomes mentally unstable. That would still leave a person without family for whatever reason to be dealt with. If our society were more community based, we could have an oversight committee for that. With that lacking, it is up to the mental health practitioners to follow through when someone becomes unstable. They should work with the local law enforcement agencies. We have some of that now, but it needs more participation from mental health doctors. My thoughts, anyway.
I'm still working on possible solutions, even partial solutions..
Perhaps part of the background check should require the applicant to release the NICS service from being bound by HIPPA laws..... perhaps only for mental health issues.
A national database could be created with a very strictly controlled list of items that MUST be reported. A list that cannot be changed on the whim of a bureaucrat. Only certain mental conditions would be reported, and people being prescribed certain mind altering medications.
So, if you had some type of private health issue, it would still be protected under HIPPA, but if you had been diagnosed as schizophrenic, or severely bi-polar, or on mind altering drugs, those would HAVE to be reported to the database.
There would also have to be some type of review board for anyone that wants to dispute being refused permission to purchase.
Perhaps this system should only be used for high-capacity firearms, rifles and shotguns with removable magazines. If a citizen wanted to buy a handgun or "normal" hunting type shotgun, or rimfire rifle, this extended background check would not be required.
I don't have all the answers, but there has to be some sort of middle ground, where we can all meet, and agree, to keep the mentally unstable from having EASY access to those types of firearms....
Just sort of thinking out loud here....
HIPPA does have a rarely used loophole that allows a healthcare professional to approach law enforcement if a patient is an "imminent threat" to either themselves or others but of course that only has the potential to work in the the case of persons who seek professional help. The Aurora theater shooting here in Colorado could have been avoided had his shrink reported him but there is a lot of subjective wiggle room in the phrase "imminent threat" and as a result most professionals are going to err on the side of patient privacy.
I'm not too familiar with the Ruger Range rifle. AR-15 has a 100-round drum but I guess it would fit a Ruger too. I could be wrong, I just did a quick google search, and a Ruger is a little more expensive.
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