Assassination attemp against Donald Trump

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HeIsHere

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If you pray and ask God for someone then of course God can provide protection for them. People who are not praying for protection to God have no right to complain about those that do or about God answering their prayers.
Conjecture.
 

ZNP

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Where is the conjecture. I know for a fact thousands all over this country pray every week for Trump to be kept safe from attack.

So then, what is the conjecture?
 

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It's too soon for me to believe he was alone but so far his profile says that he is the type of person who would do this alone.
When people are too shocked by the reality of the situation by how one man can shoot Trump, Reagan, Jfk or the Pope back in 1981 or any important statesman in history, they want to jump into conspiracies. Or how a group of people hijacked planes in a coordinated attacked using box cutters and exploiting relaxed security measures of the time and compartmentalization of government departments back then so they could be better screened and improve their reaction time.
But the reality is that we can't control anything about our lives with absolute certainty. In retrospect we can all become "experts" but in-the-moment it's always confusion, delays and the chaos that follows after.
There is no deep state either.
Everything is just as it seems. :)

Those were the days when I was a kid and thought that way, but a little research goes a long way... Julian Assange is a good place to start.
 

ZNP

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Is this real...down the rabbit hole.

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I'm looking at this picture and I know it is conjecture, bordering on tin foil hat conspiracy, but I'm starting to actually question whether or not the director of the Secret Service is telling us the whole truth.
 

HeIsHere

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Where is the conjecture. I know for a fact thousands all over this country pray every week for Trump to be kept safe from attack.

So then, what is the conjecture?

How about wishful thinking.
When God announces such to the world then I will believe it.
Maybe God has different plans than what people pray for, let's be real this is a stretch.
 

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There is no deep state either.
Everything is just as it seems. :)

Those were the days when I was a kid and thought that way, but a little research goes a long way... Julian Assange is a good place to start.
I agree with this but again let's not confuse the resume of the CIA and how it completely di-stabilzied south america during the cold war or other areas of the world with our retrospect now and with the unpredictability that can arise from any best-laid-plans.
 

ZNP

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How about wishful thinking.
When God announces such to the world then I will believe it.
Maybe God has different plans than what people pray for, let's be real this is a stretch.
Who cares if you believe it? We must pray in faith believing that we receive it. That doesn't mean that simply because others don't believe that will have any impact at all. When the man brought Jesus to heal his daughter and everyone laughed him to scorn Jesus didn't care for that, He simply told that man to believe.
 

HeIsHere

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Or for the shooter to crawl up there and TRY TO MURDER A PRESIDENT AND MURDER A FATHER!! Do they think we are all stupid!!!???
It is very impressive how sloppy they are these days.
With Kennedy it seemed a little more believable at that moment.
Today we have lots of video and pictures.
 

HeIsHere

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Who cares if you believe it?
I care that I do not believe it. :)

Do you really think Trump is going to make things better?

Read their platform... total dumbing down of where they used to stand, you think God is on the side of someone who does not take a firm stand on abortion, I do not.

The damage is done, it was done a long time ago.
 

ZNP

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I care that I do not believe it. :)

Do you really think Trump is going to make things better?

Read their platform... total dumbing down of where they used to stand, you think God is on the side of someone who does not take a firm stand on abortion, I do not.

The damage is done, it was done a long time ago.
I really think that Trump being assassinated would have made things worse. I pray for a lot of people who are unbelievers. I don't need some assurance from them that they will truly make things better to pray for them.
 

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I really think that Trump being assassinated would have made things worse. I pray for a lot of people who are unbelievers. I don't need some assurance from them that they will truly make things better to pray for them.
The Polls show just about anyone can beat Biden. But Trump is more of a guarantee [there are no guarantees in matters like this] now that this attempt was made on him and he survived.
 

HeIsHere

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I really think that Trump being assassinated would have made things worse. I pray for a lot of people who are unbelievers. I don't need some assurance from them that they will truly make things better to pray for them.
I do agree it would have been way worse.
And we should pray for many things.

I would like to be hopeful, today is not one of those days for me. I see many insurmountable problems.
 

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Crooks Parents Called Police

The parents of 20-year-old failed Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks called Butler, Pennsylvania, police after they “were worried” because “he went missing” just hours before the shooting.

The parents alerted local authorities that something was going on with Crooks, but so far the call has not been released and there are no details as to what they told law enforcement.
“What were they giving the cops a heads up about?” asked Fox News reporter Harris Faulkner.
It’s unclear if the parents told police Crooks had taken his father’s gun from the house.....
 

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I may have misunderstood some of the facts. I assumed the Secret Service had the ladder against the building so that they could get up there if they needed to. I now hear Tim Burchett, US Congressman, and he indicated the kid brought the 20 foot ladder with him as well as the rifle.

Also for a "loner" who doesn't talk to others he seemed very much dialed in knowing that a building that close would be left open and he could sneak a 20 foot ladder and a rifle past the Secret Service.

Also apparently the kid did not have a car and so "walked" the mile to the place with the ladder and rifle?

One other thing that just came out is that his parents called the police to warn them ahead of time.

I realize this all sounds impossible, but I have figured out how he was able to pull all this off by himself. He must have Harry Potter's invisibility cloak.
 

ZNP

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I think I may now understand the confusion about why the Secret Service agents had been assigned to secure the inside of the building instead of the roof, that is where they vending machines for Pepsi and Frito Lays were.