Becomes Trump a dictator?

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HeIsHere

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Espionage act .Leaking top secret information is a crime
Well I think "intent" would need to be considered, if this was an intentional leak on his part, he is a lot dumber than I previously thought.
 

ZNP

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Espionage act .Leaking top secret information is a crime
You obviously are not familiar with the fundamental rule in warfare, all's fair in love and war.

No one will listen to false information if you don't feed them good information now and then. The Pentagon is far more concerned with Iran and Russia than they are with Yemen. All warfare is based on deception, and they are clearly ramping up the deception prior to this attack on either Iran or Russia.
 

HeIsHere

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You have to be completely naive to think the Pentagon accidentally sent battle plans to a journalist at the Atlantic. All warfare is based on deception. In WW2 we convinced the Germans that Patton was leading the D Day attack helping it to become successful. No one pays attention to the media unless their previous intelligence had been correct. This guy at the Atlantic didn't give these battle plans any credence until he saw them play out in front of him. Because of this now many other news outlets will treat these "mistakes" much more seriously and by giving them good information it will make it much more effective when you give them bad information.

For a half second I thought this was perhaps an intentional, all those acts in prior wars did not make the USA look incompetent, it was diversionary.

This was reckless and incompetent behaviour because it was not fake intel.
 

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People everywhere who don't relish the idea of a US under the thumb of Trump and Musk should pray that God will stop their efforts. God raised up Pharaoh in Egypt to show His power. Pharaoh got away with a lot of despicable things before God stepped in a put a stop to it. He can do the same thing today.

I can think of another well-known dictator a little closer to our own time. God allowed him to flourish for a season then put an end to him too.
Naaaa, I'll pray God crush all wickedness and Satans head and trust Him that His will, will be done. I'm not really "surprised" by it because you've always been a mainstream drone pushing the narritive, but sometimes it still stops me in my tracks seeing someone that proclaims to love and follow Jesus and the Truth, so blind to the spiritual truths of the world, and approving of the things of the flesh, and accepting and endorsing of so much blatant and clear delusion and falseness.

This for example, somehow going through the MASSIVE amounts of the wasteful spending of our tax money, and the showing us what it's being spend on is bad to you. You can't even be taken seriously at this point. Really? This is bad to you?

So you want to stop their efforts to bring things into a better and more transparant order, and this is wicked to you? You are delusional and it's just getting pathetic at this point. I don't even know how to speck to people who are so fully consumed by ridiculous delusion, and so resistant to obvious and blatant truth. Good luck man, because God's blessings don't come through delusions and lies.
 

HeIsHere

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I don't know why this should surprise anyone; it's amateur hour in DC right now. Of course the Donald says he doesn't know anything about it. Must be too busy preparing the White House for the big Easter branding fest.

The whole angle of this was an intentional leak is just another sad attempt to dismiss the incompetence at the highest levels of government.

Maybe they can watch Get Smart to see how it is done.
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ZNP

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For a half second I thought this was perhaps an intentional, all those acts in prior wars did not make the USA look incompetent, it was diversionary.

This was reckless and incompetent behaviour because it was not fake intel.
If it was fake intel then no one will take future leaks seriously. The most effective lies are those made with the truth. My guess is this leak was a lie, not the message that was true, but the story that it was an accident.

Key rule in warfare is don't underestimate your opponent. Anyone who thinks the Pentagon is incompetent has violated that rule.

If the Pentagon can appear "incompetent" and to accidentally be leaking top secret war plans this would be exactly what anyone would want their opponent to think.

Also if the news cycle can be filled with you, RA and Dude talking about the Pentagon being incompetent then you aren't talking about what they are doing in Yemen or Iran. Gives them a smoke screen.
 

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Naaaa, I'll pray God crush all wickedness and Satans head and trust Him that His will, will be done. I'm not really "surprised" by it because you've always been a mainstream drone pushing the narritive, but sometimes it still stops me in my tracks seeing someone that proclaims to love and follow Jesus and the Truth, so blind to the spiritual truths of the world, and approving of the things of the flesh, and accepting and endorsing of so much blatant and clear delusion and falseness.

This for example, somehow going through the MASSIVE amounts of the wasteful spending of our tax money, and the showing us what it's being spend on is bad to you. You can't even be taken seriously at this point. Really? This is bad to you?

So you want to stop their efforts to bring things into a better and more transparant order, and this is wicked to you? You are delusional and it's just getting pathetic at this point. I don't even know how to speck to people who are so fully consumed by ridiculous delusion, and so resistant to obvious and blatant truth. Good luck man, because God's blessings don't come through delusions and lies.
RA is simply Shimei son of Gera.

"It may be that the LORD will see my distress and repay me with good for the cursing I am receiving today."
 

HeIsHere

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If it was fake intel then no one will take future leaks seriously. The most effective lies are those made with the truth. My guess is this leak was a lie, not the message that was true, but the story that it was an accident.

Key rule in warfare is don't underestimate your opponent. Anyone who thinks the Pentagon is incompetent has violated that rule.
So it was not really leaked to the editor of the Atlantic, he is in on the charade?
 

HeIsHere

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If it was fake intel then no one will take future leaks seriously. The most effective lies are those made with the truth. My guess is this leak was a lie, not the message that was true, but the story that it was an accident.

Key rule in warfare is don't underestimate your opponent. Anyone who thinks the Pentagon is incompetent has violated that rule.

If the Pentagon can appear "incompetent" and to accidentally be leaking top secret war plans this would be exactly what anyone would want their opponent to think.

Also if the news cycle can be filled with you, RA and Dude talking about the Pentagon being incompetent then you aren't talking about what they are doing in Yemen or Iran. Gives them a smoke screen.
Seems like a stretch to me, I think most countries are aware how erratic the American leader is and nothing is at it appears.

I highly doubt the people in Yemen are that dumb, I know the West likes to paint the rest of the world as uncivilized brutes who are not as highly evolved.
 

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I agree with you and we must also recognize that Paul was writing to the believers in Rome and their particular situation.

We are not scripture's primary audience.
Indeed, when I see people using Scriptures on obeying kings,masters,authority ect. as a weapon in a debate over US politics the first thing that hits my mind is,
wait you mean our forefathers in the thirteen colonies were breaking the Scriptures when they wrote the Declaration of Independence and fought the Revolutionary war to refuse the king of England? Then again it might be that after years of abuse of the people by the kings and queens of England the Lord shifted their power to We the People? The United States is founded on the idea of no longer obeying or bowing down the authority of England.
 

HeIsHere

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As God said,the natural mind cannot understand the things of God. Those are spiritually discerned.
The never ending misinterpretation of one scripture verse ripped out of its context and used over and over again to justify the demeaning of non-believers.
 

HeIsHere

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Indeed, when I see people using Scriptures on obeying kings,masters,authority ect. as a weapon in a debate over US politics the first thing that hits my mind is,
wait you mean our forefathers in the thirteen colonies were breaking the Scriptures when they wrote the Declaration of Independence and fought the Revolutionary war to refuse the king of England? Then again it might be that after years of abuse of the people by the kings and queens of England the Lord shifted their power to We the People? The United States is founded on the idea of no longer obeying or bowing down the authority of England.
I read a few of the postings from last evening, I am always impressed, and not in a good way, by how if anything negative is brought to light about the current administration that person is no longer to be considered a Christian.

That is some high level of allegiance to the man in office, a man who lies daily by the way.
 

ZNP

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So it was not really leaked to the editor of the Atlantic, he is in on the charade?
Who knows? That is the goal, confusion, deception, is it real, is it not. We are in war, the first casualty is the truth.
 

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Seems like a stretch to me, I think most countries are aware how erratic the American leader is and nothing is at it appears.

I highly doubt the people in Yemen are that dumb, I know the West likes to paint the rest of the world as uncivilized brutes who are not as highly evolved.
Disinformation from the Pentagon during a war seems like a stretch to you? Thank you, that made my day.
 

HeIsHere

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Donald Trump doesn’t even believe he needs to ask God for forgiveness.
Of course not, he does no wrong.

If you do point out anything wrong then this is how you are labeled >>>

The foreign haters are just blind and pathetic shills of the Left wing mob.
Yes let's just close our eyes and minds and blindly believe everything we are told, if we do not then we are haters.
Seems to me like there is a "woke" right as well.
 

HeIsHere

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Disinformation from the Pentagon during a war seems like a stretch to you? Thank you, that made my day.
Not disinformation per se, but this particular type situation and whether it was intended to be disinformation.

I certainly know/agree that disinformation is employed by the Pentagon.