Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends?

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TheIndianGirl

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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
 

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If they are two mature adults who don't let silly politics affect their lives then sure.
 
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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
They can be close friends until President Trump wins the election, and then the protesters will really go bonkers, and there is a civil war between Right Wing and Left Wing, and then the American government can go to a new form of government and disband Republican and Democrat, and have a balance between socialism and democracy, and say they have to do that for the peace and safety of the nation, but they want to be compatible with the coming global government that will have a balance between the 2 that the nations accept, which the target date is 2030.

BLM is pushing for equality and defund the police, and to get rid of all public display of prejudice so they can put everyone equal, which eventually all people will be equal economically, and social status wise, and all people taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the communities work together to fight crime, as everyone becomes a police adjunct and their job is to watch the street and watch their neighbor.
 
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It depends. How many books have they read in their lifetime?
 

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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
In agapaó love we see how we are to treat others who's views may be hostile to us.

This doesn't negate speaking truth, it doesn't negate self defense if they act crazy, it doesn't negate the demand for law, order and justice.

Politics involves issues of the Bible. You can leave politics aside but you will not be a Christian. Why? Because Christianity has became a political target. And to leave the arena means you are no longer standing for truth.

To me I couldn't be friends with anti Americans especially if they claim to be Christian but support Bernie, AOC, and BLM. I can be loving and kind. I can talk about the Bible and see how far away they are from God. But I cannot invite them to my home. Not a good individual for my kids to see.

So I truly believe if you are a Christian and support the socialist worldview then I only have 3 conclusions on how that individual could even be Christian and support this movement. Either ignorance, a false Christian to do evil, and or indoctrination to the point they actually think their views are Biblical or great for society.
 

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In agapaó love we see how we are to treat others who's views may be hostile to us.

This doesn't negate speaking truth, it doesn't negate self defense if they act crazy, it doesn't negate the demand for law, order and justice.

Politics involves issues of the Bible. You can leave politics aside but you will not be a Christian. Why? Because Christianity has became a political target. And to leave the arena means you are no longer standing for truth.

To me I couldn't be friends with anti Americans especially if they claim to be Christian but support Bernie, AOC, and BLM. I can be loving and kind. I can talk about the Bible and see how far away they are from God. But I cannot invite them to my home. Not a good individual for my kids to see.

So I truly believe if you are a Christian and support the socialist worldview then I only have 3 conclusions on how that individual could even be Christian and support this movement. Either ignorance, a false Christian to do evil, and or indoctrination to the point they actually think their views are Biblical or great for society.
The issue can be tricky when people were best friends during high school and college, when they were not too political, etc. (I know recently college students have become very political), however they get older and get more political. I don't think it is good when friends part because of politics.
 

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But I cannot invite them to my home.
Both sides have the same view about the other side, it seems. The left says they cannot be friends with a Trump supporter because they are racist, etc.

I do think with more dialogue tensions will ease although people will still continue to disagree. This was the end result of caucus groups.
 

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They can even share their bed and wake up cuddling in the morning.

If a person only judges you for your vote, it’s wise not to engage relations too close. My lover is not christian either. She is a lefty I am conservative. We simply don’t change eachother and can reflect different opinions.

Best debates are when 2 people share different views and can explain properly why. When one gets angry in the proces anyway, he or she simply has problems with agreeing to disagree.

We are more then what we vote for and eat.
 

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It depends. How many books have they read in their lifetime?
Many people don’t understand what they are reading. Even I did not understand the Bible before engaging Bible study and being truly devoted to His Word.
I had to study pdf files of 300+ pages and more before engaging in the theory of evil lucion. Simply to find I knew more at the end of one year then what professors tried to profess me.

It’s all so fragile and based on ideology. Few things are actual laws, most we debate is utter ideology based on “facts”’. Facts that have only changed over time while we as species progress in time.

Now politics is an even more complex infrastructure. One has to become “justice administer” to even grasp the game. A game where each move is an entire play of chress, on a board of mines.
 
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I lived in NJ back when I was 4-9 years of age....between 1970 and 1975, last year decided I might like to visit again....I put up a post on my old town's facebook page asking for hotel reccomendations.....there was a message that went up: "OMG Gordon do you remember me"? It was one of my mother's best friends from when we lived there, that salted it....we made the trip. I found out Joan was a vocal and proud Donald Trump supporter, which surprised me given how much of a liberal democrat my mother was. When I asked Joan about it she said: "your mother was such a liberal, but she was a good person".....she also remarked that my Mom had been right about Nixon. Sadly a few months after our visit Joan passed.
 
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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
I know Christians who are totally anti Trump and I know some Christians who are totally For Trump although the bible says can two walk together unless they agree?

Some use scripture to go against Trump like a liar wont tarry In front of GOD and then some believe that because all republicans are against abortion a christian Must be for Trump.
 

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I don’t understand this for Trump, against Trump thing.

This plays right into the hand of identity politics. A destructive ideology.

WHO the occupant of the White House is completely unimportant. WHAT policies and agenda implemented is exceedingly important.

And on that note there is literally no comparison between a Democrat and a Republican. The evil the Democrats promote is so stunning and evident I cannot see how any professed Christian can vote Democrat.

So loving someone, and having them as a close friend, is two different things. I question their heart, brains, and even if they are Christian at all if they support the Democrat agenda.
 
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This plays right into the hand of identity politics. A destructive ideology.
Identity politics is the inevitable result of diversity. It's diversity that's destructive.

Diversity + Proximity = War.
 
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I don’t understand this for Trump, against Trump thing.

This plays right into the hand of identity politics. A destructive ideology.

WHO the occupant of the White House is completely unimportant. WHAT policies and agenda implemented is exceedingly important.

And on that note there is literally no comparison between a Democrat and a Republican. The evil the Democrats promote is so stunning and evident I cannot see how any professed Christian can vote Democrat.

So loving someone, and having them as a close friend, is two different things. I question their heart, brains, and even if they are Christian at all if they support the Democrat agenda.
I understand and to a point I somewhat agree with you but we Are living In this present world right now and have hopes and wishes ,life desires ,that we have for our families/loved ones,and the bible also says to love GOD And love your neighbor.

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I’m still In the process of trying to get out of too much fleshly thinking and more Involved In heaven bound thinking.
 
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Identity politics is the inevitable result of diversity. It's diversity that's destructive.

Diversity + Proximity = War.
Hello,I was wondering what do you think about someone dividing our 50 United States,United States of America to the degree that the brain thinks about Is this what I want for my loved ones.✌🏼✌️And since love Is fruit of the Spirit loving my neighbor would be a desirable and obedient to faith way to be.
 

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The issue can be tricky when people were best friends during high school and college, when they were not too political, etc. (I know recently college students have become very political), however they get older and get more political. I don't think it is good when friends part because of politics.
Not tricky to me. Even scripture says father and sons may divide over Him. I have lost friends for standing on pro life, God, marriage, family, etc. But I didn't lose them by being disrespectful or mean. But simply for having an opposing view.

But you either stand on God's side or with the world.
 

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I have lost friends for standing on pro life, God, marriage, family, etc. But I didn't lose them by being disrespectful or mean. But simply for having an opposing view.
Did you part from them first, or they from you? I've had this happen to me but I did not initiate it.
 

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I lived in NJ back when I was 4-9 years of age....between 1970 and 1975, last year decided I might like to visit again....I put up a post on my old town's facebook page asking for hotel reccomendations.....there was a message that went up: "OMG Gordon do you remember me"? It was one of my mother's best friends from when we lived there, that salted it....we made the trip. I found out Joan was a vocal and proud Donald Trump supporter, which surprised me given how much of a liberal democrat my mother was. When I asked Joan about it she said: "your mother was such a liberal, but she was a good person".....she also remarked that my Mom had been right about Nixon. Sadly a few months after our visit Joan passed.
Nice story. It matters more to me if a friend is genuine and displays Christ-like qualities.
 
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Hello,I was wondering what do you think about someone dividing our 50 United States,United States of America to the degree that the brain thinks about Is this what I want for my loved ones.✌🏼✌️And since love Is fruit of the Spirit loving my neighbor would be a desirable and obedient to faith way to be.
Not sure I completely understand the question. So I'll give you a couple thoughts on the first part of your post.

1. Disintegration of the US is inevitable. "A house divided against itself can not stand" A nation needs more than a government to hold itself together. It needs something to bind the people to one another. Strong ties are things like ethnicity and religion. Weaker bonds are things like government force - because governments constantly rise and fall and change forms. In the USA there are no longer any ties that bind us strongly together as a nation other than a debt saddled government that's struggling with competing visions of leadership. Americans can't even agree on how many sexes there are!

2. So disintegration is inevitable. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. It could be a very good thing. When political borders match ethnic and religious boundaries, then relative peace and tranquility are much more likely.**** A place for Islamics to be in charge of their fellow muslims according to muslim laws and traditions. A place for Jews to be ruled by other jews according to their customs . A place for Christians to be be led according to Christian ethics, etc. There will no doubt be further splits according to race and ethnicity.

3. Violence is going to happen. Anytime you have people that hate each other living in close proximity, there will be violence. But you say you don't hate anyone because you're a Christian. That doesn't matter because there are so many that hate you BECAUSE you are a Christian.

4. Christianity thrives under oppression. It stagnates with prosperity. If we lose this culture war we're in, Christianity with grow under the inevitable brutality that will ensue. If we win this cultural battle, then our children and grandchildren will be eternally grateful for our efforts. Both are good things. I want to win the culture war, because a Christianity that doesn't fight for its children worthless to me. If Christians won't even fight for their children, then they also won't stand up for Jesus when they're being fed to lions.

****The inevitable response to this statement is that wars between nations happen more so as a result of political boundaries not aligning with ethnic/religious boundaries than anything else. Just let people be with their own kind. Globalism forces people that aren't alike into close proximity with disastrous results.