Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends?

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Runningman

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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
Maybe 15 years ago this would have been much easier, but these days division and segregation is heavily promoted. I'm not saying it's impossible now, but once malice is in someone's heart they are highly susceptible to be blinded by hatred, especially when these same people are the ones being justified and validated.

Political ideologies and associating with movements are actually much more than just a hat someone puts on and takes off. It's an identity and to Christians I think it should be a question of what association does light have with darkness?

I could be an acquaintance to someone walking in darkness for purposes of outreach, but not friendship. I don't think it's Biblical to be their friend because that assumes we are allies. I wouldn't defend their beliefs or actions. How could I be a friend to someone I wouldn't attempt to validate?

If the one who is a democrat and a BLM supporter is claiming to be a Christian, maybe get a sense of their stance on abortion and usage of terrorism for political purposes. If they are against both maybe friendship is possible. Just my take on it.
 
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Did you part from them first, or they from you? I've had this happen to me but I did not initiate it.
Once a person gets saved Its like behold a New person and It seems like your friends actions and expression are no longer In agreement with what you like and they have to learn you all over again and Amos 3 says can two walk together unless they agree so then IMO since I would never go back to that I would say the Christian (In their heart)would walk away first and the unbeliever If they stayed would not be confortble around you the way they were before.
 
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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
My closest friends are Black and they don’t like our President. We agree not to discuss politics. Problem solved.
 
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They can be close friends until President Trump wins the election, and then the protesters will really go bonkers, and there is a civil war between Right Wing and Left Wing, and then the American government can go to a new form of government and disband Republican and Democrat, and have a balance between socialism and democracy, and say they have to do that for the peace and safety of the nation, but they want to be compatible with the coming global government that will have a balance between the 2 that the nations accept, which the target date is 2030.

BLM is pushing for equality and defund the police, and to get rid of all public display of prejudice so they can put everyone equal, which eventually all people will be equal economically, and social status wise, and all people taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and the communities work together to fight crime, as everyone becomes a police adjunct and their job is to watch the street and watch their neighbor.
If Trump wins I think we Will be very much on the road to a mixture of socialism and democracy.Is America ready for that?
 
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My closest friends are Black and they don’t like our President. We agree not to discuss politics. Problem solved.
Seems like that wouldn't be a trusting relationship though.It would be all good until somebody's truth was being offended It seems like the person that's friends but with opposing values would always be listening critically and not relaxed and trusting.
 
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Seems like that wouldn't be a trusting relationship though.It would be all good until somebody's truth was being offended It seems like the person that's friends but with opposing values would always be listening critically and not relaxed and trusting.
Your scenario definitely plays out for sure with many people but our friendships are too strong for that.
 

TheIndianGirl

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Politics have become too personal, its like if you do not vote for my candidate you are rejecting me.
 

Billyd

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Why would I base friendship on a political decision?

What are Trump supporters going to do when Biden takes over the presidency? How about when Biden wins the presidency and the democrats take over both houses of congress?

It could happen. Compare the political ads airing this weekend. Watch the trickle of dumb things that Trump has said each news cycle. Trump will bite any bait put out there. People say that the polls aren't reflective of the race, and tell us that we should look at them when HRC was Trump's opponent. Biden is no HRC. Don't sell him short.

Watch Biden's coat tails in congressional elections. This could hurt conservatives more than a Trump loss.
 

MattforJesus

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If Trump wins I think we Will be very much on the road to a mixture of socialism and democracy.Is America ready for that?
United Nations Agenda 21, 1992, 179 nations agreed to it which they probably all agree to it now, sustainability development, ecology, economy, social.

Ecology- harmony between nature and people, which all people will be taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and communities work together to help to stop crime, and their job is to watch the street and watch their neighbor, which this also helps to cause people to cooperate together, and the streets are monitored with eyes on the street.

Economy- everybody equal economically, and go by their needs, which the stimulus check is probably a pattern for basic income for many jobs will not be available when they establish Agenda 21 in their nation, for many jobs are not needed, and resources are limited, and the people cannot pursue their wants as they once did, and they care about the ecology so they want to cut down on pollution.

It would seem like alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs, will not be tolerated at that time for they are not going to waste time dealing with people with failing health because they do those things, and also they are habits and people will steal, and hurt people for their habits, and they will not tolerate that for they are serious about having peace.

Gangs, Mafia, and anybody like them will be busted up, and separated, and if people do not act right in their communities then they will be an outcast, and they do not want that, and all people basically become the police as they all people watch out for crime, and participate to keep their communities free from crime.

That is why the police are not needed.

Social- all people are equal social status wise.

Cities to regionalize their cities.

Target date for all nations to be compatible with Agenda 21, 2030, and for a global government that will be a balance between communism and democracy, which the nations agree to that for they can keep their communism but have to be a little softer, and can keep their democracy but have to be a little bit harder, but they do not care about that for it is not enough difference for them to not go along with a global government, and they want a global government.

The purpose of the nations now is to make themselves Agenda 21 compatible, put all people equal, and stop people heaping money to themselves for that is a division, and stop the different social status levels for that is a division, and ban the police for that is a division, and to make their government compatible with how the global government will operate in the future to take away that division of government of the world, and if there is any division among them in the nation's government like America.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

BLM is the start of Agenda 21, equality, ban the police, talks about sustainability on their website.

The protests were planned before the protests began, and the government wants them to protest, riot, and steal, and burn, and cause chaos, for they want a division between Right Wing and Left Wing, for it is time to divide them up to have a war between them, and then they will stop that war and go to a new form of government and disband the Republican and Democrat party, and stop the fighting between Right Wing and Left Wing and say they have to do that for the peace and safety of the nation, but the main reason is they want to be compatible with Agenda 21 and the global government to come.

Republican and Democrat are working together and are fighting more with each other so the people will fight with each other more so they will clash with each other.

BLM is pushing Left Wing, liberal, and socialism, and will gather all the people that side with them together.

The people that oppose BLM, Right Wing, conservative, and democracy, will gather all the people on that side together.

For the government wants them to have a division between them, and a civil war, so they can go to a new form of government.

They will not let it escalate too much for they have to get the ball rolling in putting the people all equal, and establishing Agenda 21, and move the people in the rural areas to the cities, and have cooperation and harmony between them.

But enough of conflict to say they have to go to a new form of government and stop the fighting, and to show the nation that freedoms to not work, for they cause protests, and riots, and divisions, and fighting, and allowing public displays of prejudice that cause fighting.

President Trump will win the election which then the protesters will really go bonkers, and then the government can put them down, and have a new form of government.

President Trump used to be a Democrat, and now a Republican president, but President Trump is probably a liberal and conservative, but he is playing his role of the Republican for right now.

For it is all a game they are playing, and what Trump wants Obama wants, and what Obama wants Trump wants for the end goal, for they are concerned with the global government to come, and not how the government operates now.
 

soggykitten

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Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
Sure. As long as they agree not to discuss politics with one another.
 

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United Nations Agenda 21, 1992, 179 nations agreed to it which they probably all agree to it now, sustainability development, ecology, economy, social.

Ecology- harmony between nature and people, which all people will be taken out of the rural areas and placed in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and communities work together to help to stop crime, and their job is to watch the street and watch their neighbor, which this also helps to cause people to cooperate together, and the streets are monitored with eyes on the street.

Economy- everybody equal economically, and go by their needs, which the stimulus check is probably a pattern for basic income for many jobs will not be available when they establish Agenda 21 in their nation, for many jobs are not needed, and resources are limited, and the people cannot pursue their wants as they once did, and they care about the ecology so they want to cut down on pollution.

It would seem like alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs, will not be tolerated at that time for they are not going to waste time dealing with people with failing health because they do those things, and also they are habits and people will steal, and hurt people for their habits, and they will not tolerate that for they are serious about having peace.

Gangs, Mafia, and anybody like them will be busted up, and separated, and if people do not act right in their communities then they will be an outcast, and they do not want that, and all people basically become the police as they all people watch out for crime, and participate to keep their communities free from crime.

That is why the police are not needed.

Social- all people are equal social status wise.

Cities to regionalize their cities.

Target date for all nations to be compatible with Agenda 21, 2030, and for a global government that will be a balance between communism and democracy, which the nations agree to that for they can keep their communism but have to be a little softer, and can keep their democracy but have to be a little bit harder, but they do not care about that for it is not enough difference for them to not go along with a global government, and they want a global government.

The purpose of the nations now is to make themselves Agenda 21 compatible, put all people equal, and stop people heaping money to themselves for that is a division, and stop the different social status levels for that is a division, and ban the police for that is a division, and to make their government compatible with how the global government will operate in the future to take away that division of government of the world, and if there is any division among them in the nation's government like America.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

BLM is the start of Agenda 21, equality, ban the police, talks about sustainability on their website.

The protests were planned before the protests began, and the government wants them to protest, riot, and steal, and burn, and cause chaos, for they want a division between Right Wing and Left Wing, for it is time to divide them up to have a war between them, and then they will stop that war and go to a new form of government and disband the Republican and Democrat party, and stop the fighting between Right Wing and Left Wing and say they have to do that for the peace and safety of the nation, but the main reason is they want to be compatible with Agenda 21 and the global government to come.

Republican and Democrat are working together and are fighting more with each other so the people will fight with each other more so they will clash with each other.

BLM is pushing Left Wing, liberal, and socialism, and will gather all the people that side with them together.

The people that oppose BLM, Right Wing, conservative, and democracy, will gather all the people on that side together.

For the government wants them to have a division between them, and a civil war, so they can go to a new form of government.

They will not let it escalate too much for they have to get the ball rolling in putting the people all equal, and establishing Agenda 21, and move the people in the rural areas to the cities, and have cooperation and harmony between them.

But enough of conflict to say they have to go to a new form of government and stop the fighting, and to show the nation that freedoms to not work, for they cause protests, and riots, and divisions, and fighting, and allowing public displays of prejudice that cause fighting.

President Trump will win the election which then the protesters will really go bonkers, and then the government can put them down, and have a new form of government.

President Trump used to be a Democrat, and now a Republican president, but President Trump is probably a liberal and conservative, but he is playing his role of the Republican for right now.

For it is all a game they are playing, and what Trump wants Obama wants, and what Obama wants Trump wants for the end goal, for they are concerned with the global government to come, and not how the government operates now.

while i disagree with your extreme legalism in other places , ( we are saved by grace, not by good behavior), you are wide awake and get what the luciferian elite are doing to this world..
 

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I know Christians who are totally anti Trump and I know some Christians who are totally For Trump although the bible says can two walk together unless they agree?

Some use scripture to go against Trump like a liar wont tarry In front of GOD and then some believe that because all republicans are against abortion a christian Must be for Trump.
So we have to keep our eyes on Jesus. That would not divide us but should unite all of us.

Trump is a businessman in suit. Jesus was a middle class man in a rug not doing business for money.
Trump is restoring that what Jesus is coming to save us from.

It’s not personal because I like Trump, he’s just not Jesus. From my worldly position I understand why people are for their leader. But looking at the outcome of “making money” is a lot of bloodshed and hunger through famine. Famine is in this world and we have our current worldleaders to thank selling tech to the wrong regimes.

There has been a cover up for decades not showing us that. But all will be exposed before each tongue shall confess but only one name.
 

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Did you part from them first, or they from you? I've had this happen to me but I did not initiate it.
They were always first. But you know how it is when your high school and most kids do not care for politics. So you have many friends and acquaintances who end up thinking very different than you. And I guess it is too difficult for some to take even if your friends.

One of them was on Facebook because he was a pastor in Atlanta but openly gay and started a relationship with another man. His post had 100s of likes from his congregation and people congratulating him. I simply asked how can a Christian pastor be a practicing homosexual. It is one thing to struggle but another to just openly give in.

He basically said the KJV and old southern baptist way was archaic and he was teaching the true gospel of love. So I started to post scriptures and boom was blocked and unfriended.
 

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I'm not sure, given how divisive politics has become.
I am proof positive. One of my closest, dearest friends is a Trumpist. Although lately. He has been running out of reasons for this. (lol). We have always been there for each other. Our love for God far exceeds any non-sense going on in this crazy country.
 
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I am proof positive. One of my closest, dearest friends is a Trumpist. Although lately. He has been running out of reasons for this. (lol). We have always been there for each other. Our love for God far exceeds any non-sense going on in this crazy country.
I was curious to know In your opinion what Is the thing about President Trump that he has done that people like the most?
 

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I was curious to know In your opinion what Is the thing about President Trump that he has done that people like the most?
He is not political but historical correct. Which is gold in this time.

All has been exposed. There are politicians who are collaborating with fascist regimes. This has taken jobs in the west because we can not compete with the working conditions in the east.
Rather then to change the east so more civil rights are attained, they will strip the west of every right and turn us into a fascist regime.

Why do leftists always need a dictator bending the knee to satan? Why?
We do know China is putting christians on trains to workcamps like Hitler did? We do know Saudi Arabia has caused famine in Yemen with western tech?
And yes Trump is guilty of that last too.
 

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Well
Can a Trump supporter and an anti-Trump person be close friends? Say one is a big supporter of Trump, and another person is a big supporter of Bernie, AOC, BLM, etc., can they leave politics aside and be close friends? Also, let's assume both are Christians.
Christian or not, if they're a Bernie lover, BLMer, etc, then I'm out. I don't care if they call themselves "Christian". I want nothing to do with any of them.
 

Runningman

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Why would I base friendship on a political decision?

What are Trump supporters going to do when Biden takes over the presidency? How about when Biden wins the presidency and the democrats take over both houses of congress?

It could happen. Compare the political ads airing this weekend. Watch the trickle of dumb things that Trump has said each news cycle. Trump will bite any bait put out there. People say that the polls aren't reflective of the race, and tell us that we should look at them when HRC was Trump's opponent. Biden is no HRC. Don't sell him short.

Watch Biden's coat tails in congressional elections. This could hurt conservatives more than a Trump loss.
Have you ever been in a a relationship with someone where there are irreconcilable differences that create so vast a chasm between you that any agreement is impossible? That's modern day democrats and republicans. They have nothing in common to agree on.
 

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Why would I base friendship on a political decision?

What are Trump supporters going to do when Biden takes over the presidency? How about when Biden wins the presidency and the democrats take over both houses of congress?

It could happen. Compare the political ads airing this weekend. Watch the trickle of dumb things that Trump has said each news cycle. Trump will bite any bait put out there. People say that the polls aren't reflective of the race, and tell us that we should look at them when HRC was Trump's opponent. Biden is no HRC. Don't sell him short.

Watch Biden's coat tails in congressional elections. This could hurt conservatives more than a Trump loss.
When Hillary was thought to be the winner and next president there was little hope .. There was no future in the stock market as far out as the financial advisors could see .. The trade deals that were being set in place like the TPP was going to give other countries power over our own US businesses .. Government regulations choking out business and life would have been increased instead of many ended by DJT.. The fake 2 trillion MMGW carbon tax was a sure thing and G-7 was clear sailing .. Illegal immigrants would have continued to pour in to who knows what level .. Income and other tax would have continued up and US companies would have continued pouring out .. Israel would have been toast as Obama had abstained from supporting Israel for the first time in US History in the UN .. The Pope will be ready to slither out and do what he wills .. That's a few things to look forward to .. Good luck when it does happen ..
 
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Have you ever been in a a relationship with someone where there are irreconcilable differences that create so vast a chasm between you that any agreement is impossible? That's modern day democrats and republicans. They have nothing in common to agree on.
why would they not have anything to agree on?
I think the truth should be desired more than political correctness.
But neither party seems to be worried about the truth.