Catholic woman murdered by gay man for challenging his homosexuality,..

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Shiloah

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Fortunately God doesn’t rely on you to tell whom he may andmay not have a relationship with
God said in His word who He wants us to have relationships with. You're just ignoring what He said about this. What about "homosexuality is an abomination before the Lord" is so hard for you to understand?
 
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It is infuriating to me people have to assume Christians hate homosexuals.
It is like trying to beat a dead horse when we are accused of hating. Christians
don't hate. The GAY agenda has so much GUILT hanging around their neck,
like a SIGN that says, ' I am Gay, so hate me.' When are they going to get it
in their minds Christians are loving as Christ loves, and only are doing the work
He has called us to do. Love the Sinner, hate the Sin and share what the end

of life for them will be like if they continue to live in this sinful lifestyle and die.
After death judgement is going to be the REAL TEST and there will be no way
one can live life over, because it will be over. If a man burns with lust for his
own kind, or a woman burns with lust for another woman, and there is no
repentance, then when they are sent into hell, there, they will burn with lust
with no fulfillment ever... Continual burning with lust.... So, this idea of Christians
hating homosexuals is just a cover up for guilt and throwing it at us to justify
their own sin. Jesus did not die on that Cross at Calvary for the fun of it. He
did it for love for you and I. May repentance be taken seriously.
In Christ, I am a Christian loving the sinner, and praying for a deliverance to
those who truly want to know Jesus as Savior and spend eternity with Him.
People are only assuming that because those who disagree with the gay rights movements are generally religious, but this is not to say all religious people are like that, and I certainly don't believe that they are all like that. Everyone is capable of both love and hatred, some more one than the other. It depends on the person, not the circumstances of their birth nor their upbringing.

It's just that, the LGBTQ (lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgendered/queer) community does have a lot of guilt because a lot of LGBTQ people have faced discrimination solely based on their sexual orientation or gender identity, just as Christians have faced discrimination solely based on their beliefs.

Both parties have experience guilt and continue to experience guilt, it's just that now these two parties have turned against each other and the conflict is solving nothing. If anything, it will cause a bigger division.

Like, I'm not blaming you for anything, but I wish you could see what you have written through my eyes because it was very difficult for me to read. I understand that Christianity is about love but there was very little in your words that came across as loving other than perhaps the end. I understand you believe Jesus died for everyone regardless of who or what they are. However, I hope that you in turn understand that you cannot force other people to change their lives and conform to a lifestyle in which they will be very unhappy. Homosexuals are people who happen to fall in love with those of the same genders as theirs. They can be religious, atheist, Buddhist, Christian, Catholic, anarchist, republican, democrat, American, Asian, European, Middle Eastern, politician, businessperson, student, artist, tall, short, boy, girl, anyone. They can be anyone.
And they also have lives of their own. To interfere with their lives is not of anyone's calling.
 
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Gay people don't know the difference between a true Christian and a false one,.. They hate us all regardless.

My intent on posting this was not to spark a debate, but to show that we need to better prepare ourselves. I myself have received death threats from homosexuals and unbelievers alike because I would not stop convincing them of their sin and need for salvation. We ALL need to be diligent in our preaching of the Gospel, not lukewarm like oh so many. What this woman did should be taken as encouragement for us to be strong in times of confrontation with evil.
I don't hate you. I am sorry you don't really seem to like homosexuals in general, but I am not going to try to force you to see otherwise.
I apologise on behalf of those who have threatened you, regardless of their sexual orientation. As a lesbian, I appreciate that you are concerned for our well-being, but I do advise that you exercise caution when expressing your beliefs to others who may not agree with you. I am just as concerned for you as you are for homosexuals. I do not wish for anyone to be hurt as a result of disagreement in beliefs, but I know that that's not something I can always prevent. I just hope you know that a lot of LGBT are very sensitive to things like bullying because they've faced it all their lives. And though I know what you are doing is not necessarily bullying because your intention is not at all to hurt them, the fact is is that it does hurt them. And when people are hurt, they react differently. Some react with distress. Some react with patience. Some react with violence.
Just please do be careful.
 
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Please try to consider not sharing too many articles of this nature in order to influence people to believe that all homosexuals are evil, because we're not. :/
It's failure to abstain, It's pleasing the lusts of the flesh and perverting the purpose of our God, It's for them to point out to my generation of rebellion against God. Note, it is the sinful nature and it's procession, It is the act of sin that is evil. It's repulsive.
 
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God said in His word who He wants us to have relationships with. You're just ignoring what He said about this. What about "homosexuality is an abomination before the Lord" is so hard for you to understand?

eating shellfish is an abomination Lev 11:9-12
Having a Christmas tree is an abomination Lev. 18:30
eating bread with an Egyptian is an abomination Gen 43:32
eating some sacrifice leftovers is an abomination Lev 7:18
snacking on four legged insects is an abomination Lev 11:20(I know there aren’t any but if there were i bet they would be tasty.)
Wanting to win the lottery is an abomination Deut 7:25
Reading your daily horoscope is an abomination Deut 18:11-12
Incense is an abomination Isaiah 1:13
Remarriage after divorce is an abomination Deut 24:1-4
A women wearing pants is an abomination Deut 22:5
Inter religious marriage is an abomination Malachi 2:11

Having your way with another man’s concubine, withoutpermission, is an abomination Judges20:6 (it’s OK if you ask first)
Gossip is an abomination Proverbs 6:16-19
Thinking that you are a better Christian than someone else is an abomination Proverbs 6:16-19


 
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jimmydiggs

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#46
Please try to consider not sharing too many articles of this nature in order to influence people to believe that all homosexuals are evil, because we're not. :/
The bible says that all people are evil, which would include homosexuals. Anyone who pays attention to scripture doesn't need a news article to believe that there are evil people.
 
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The bible says that all people are evil, which would include homosexuals. Anyone who pays attention to scripture doesn't need a news article to believe that there are evil people.
I love the term "Children of Wrath." We rarely bring that one out of the shadows these days.
 
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The bible says that all people are evil, which would include homosexuals. Anyone who pays attention to scripture doesn't need a news article to believe that there are evil people.
Do you think members of other minorities are evil as well?
 

Oncefallen

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The bible says that all people are evil, which would include homosexuals. Anyone who pays attention to scripture doesn't need a news article to believe that there are evil people.
Do you think members of other minorities are evil as well?
I thought his response was pretty clear. According to scripture everyone regardless of race, gender, etc. is born and lives against the statues of God without the regeneration of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Grey

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Personally I think murder is bad regardless of whoever does it...
 
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True, but there is always a bigger story at play than the act in and of itself.
 
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DragonSlayer

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[h=2]" They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. " John 16:2 ( KJV )[/h]
 
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godsgirl3777

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Poor woman. She is unfortunately a sad casualty of these sad corrupt last days we live in. She's not the first and probably wont be the last. I hear tell that some companies endorse sodomy and if the employees don't outright approve they will be terminated they are not even allowed to keep silent. Satan is out to deceive many and quickly
 
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True, but there is always a bigger story at play than the act in and of itself.
We don't want to hurt people outside the LGBTQA community :(
The gay rights movement is not about forcing people to accept what we do. We know there will always be people who don't approve of the way we are, and we don't want to force them to change because we don't want them to force us to change. It's about us having the same rights as everyone else. Many people argue we already have those rights. In a way, they're right. The United States Constitution states that everyone is equal, but clearly, we have failed as a country many, many, many times to reinforce that, and that's where the major disagreement begins.
We don't want to force anyone to accept us, but in order to obtain our rights we at least have to clarify to people things about us that they may not know, like the fact that we're just like anyone else but we just happen to love people of the same gender. Or like the fact that we're not all necessarily sexually deviant people. People in general, regardless of sexual orientation, can have very high sex drives. It has nothing to do with their preference.
The gay rights movement has very little in its core to do with religion. We don't hate religious people. Some gay people do, but that's their affair to deal with.
We make mistakes just like anyone else, and this event was a big one on our part. However, understand that this woman was murdered by a man not because of his homosexuality, but because of his violent nature.
As for the LGBTQA people who think that it is okay to discriminate against people based on their beliefs when they are not violent about it, I don't agree with them. Most of us actually really don't agree with them. It's not okay to discriminate on any basis. Everyone is different. We know we can't change people or remove people who are different because then there would be no one left. The world is diverse, and trying to force it to become more uniform is problematic for everyone.
The problem is not gay people, or awareness of gay rights, or homophobia, or anything of the like. It's discrimination, resistance to diversity, of all parties.
 
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Graybeard

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It's about us having the same rights as everyone else.
The only "right" one has is to obey and follow God's commandments.....you cannot claim to be under the Grace of God and continue to live in sin claiming it is one's "right"......
 
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We don't want to hurt people outside the LGBTQA community :(
The gay rights movement is not about forcing people to accept what we do. We know there will always be people who don't approve of the way we are, and we don't want to force them to change because we don't want them to force us to change. It's about us having the same rights as everyone else. Many people argue we already have those rights. In a way, they're right. The United States Constitution states that everyone is equal, but clearly, we have failed as a country many, many, many times to reinforce that, and that's where the major disagreement begins.
We don't want to force anyone to accept us, but in order to obtain our rights we at least have to clarify to people things about us that they may not know, like the fact that we're just like anyone else but we just happen to love people of the same gender. Or like the fact that we're not all necessarily sexually deviant people. People in general, regardless of sexual orientation, can have very high sex drives. It has nothing to do with their preference.
The gay rights movement has very little in its core to do with religion. We don't hate religious people. Some gay people do, but that's their affair to deal with.
We make mistakes just like anyone else, and this event was a big one on our part. However, understand that this woman was murdered by a man not because of his homosexuality, but because of his violent nature.
As for the LGBTQA people who think that it is okay to discriminate against people based on their beliefs when they are not violent about it, I don't agree with them. Most of us actually really don't agree with them. It's not okay to discriminate on any basis. Everyone is different. We know we can't change people or remove people who are different because then there would be no one left. The world is diverse, and trying to force it to become more uniform is problematic for everyone.
The problem is not gay people, or awareness of gay rights, or homophobia, or anything of the like. It's discrimination, resistance to diversity, of all parties.
Here's the thing terminallyCapricious. You have been shown the truth. It is your "free will" to either become obedient to God's Word or stay in disobedience. I believe that many Christians respect your "right to choose" as you will.
Jesus said, Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
And this is what Christians are doing. Showing you where it says in God's Word that this behavior is not accepted in the Kingdom of God.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


And we (the church) are instructed what to do with those who continue in these things.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

While I believe that those who condemn you to hell are in error, for there is only one who judges, it is still the churches responsibility to put those who continue to willfully sin from among us.


Can you blame those who love the Lord for trying to keep His church spotless?
 
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We don't want to hurt people outside the LGBTQA community :(
The gay rights movement is not about forcing people to accept what we do. We know there will always be people who don't approve of the way we are, and we don't want to force them to change because we don't want them to force us to change. It's about us having the same rights as everyone else. Many people argue we already have those rights. In a way, they're right. The United States Constitution states that everyone is equal, but clearly, we have failed as a country many, many, many times to reinforce that, and that's where the major disagreement begins.
We don't want to force anyone to accept us, but in order to obtain our rights we at least have to clarify to people things about us that they may not know, like the fact that we're just like anyone else but we just happen to love people of the same gender. Or like the fact that we're not all necessarily sexually deviant people. People in general, regardless of sexual orientation, can have very high sex drives. It has nothing to do with their preference.
The gay rights movement has very little in its core to do with religion. We don't hate religious people. Some gay people do, but that's their affair to deal with.
We make mistakes just like anyone else, and this event was a big one on our part. However, understand that this woman was murdered by a man not because of his homosexuality, but because of his violent nature.
As for the LGBTQA people who think that it is okay to discriminate against people based on their beliefs when they are not violent about it, I don't agree with them. Most of us actually really don't agree with them. It's not okay to discriminate on any basis. Everyone is different. We know we can't change people or remove people who are different because then there would be no one left. The world is diverse, and trying to force it to become more uniform is problematic for everyone.
The problem is not gay people, or awareness of gay rights, or homophobia, or anything of the like. It's discrimination, resistance to diversity, of all parties.
My, aren't we being presumptuous?