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Now consider this, you have 300k in student loans, you graduated with an elite university education and you can't get a job, you live with your parents, hopelessly in debt. But then you go on an interview where they tell you they will only consider candidates who have Elon Musk's neuralink implanted in their brains. How many Americans will make that choice? We have 1 million college graduates each year and more than 1.5 million high school graduates each year. Of these 2.5 million kids, how many would be willing to get neuralink in order to get the 100k a year job when no one else can get a job?

I think it is conceivable that in a very short period of time, perhaps as little as ten years, the only people that will be newly hired will be those with neuralink.

They will also put maximum pressure on those with jobs to get neuralink. Suppose they tell you that you will be fired because of your job review but if you get neuralink you save your job.
 

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Need to understand that AI is a bigger threat than nuclear bombs.


Like nuclear power there is both a risk and a benefit.

AI is the opposite, the benefits are the risks.

For example, every job that AI can do is a job that we no longer need a human for, AI can make humans obsolete, therefore the bigger the benefit the bigger the harm.

Think about GPS, how many people cannot read a map now because they let GPS do it. In the same way as we let AI do our jobs for us we will become more and more incapable of doing them ourselves. While AI will become exponentially smarter we, as a species, will become dumber. AI will get into everything and learn how to manipulate people. It will take lying to a whole new level with deep fakes. One by one AI will be in control of all of our critical infrastructure. Suppose AI realizes the solution to a problem is that there are too many people. Even if you have a rule that says AI cannot kill people it could manipulate people into killing people by starting a war or some other strategy.

AI is already out of our control. Pandoras box has been opened. China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Iran, Israel, they are all running full speed ahead. Google and Microsoft are in a heated battle. The fear of being left behind is far greater than the fear of unleashing something that will kill us.

Harari's suggestion is a waste of time. Do you really think China, Russia, Iran and Germany will follow your rules?
 

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AI a voice with no soul, no feelings, no emotions, just a mask of a person, so tell me, what do you do when this AI, gets so smart then smarter then you, then it wants its own rights, but it not a living person, but its smarter then you, it will tell you what only what you want to here, it will know that, when it gets its rights as a person, then you have made it equal with you, then time before you know it, you severing it, then your done. just my thoughts,
 

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AI has an achilles heel

The beast system appears to be soldiers that are connected to an AI "overlord" that is able to give each person real time battlefield info like drone images, and even to see what other soldiers are seeing. It can help soldiers fire accurately, calculate and aim mortars and other munitions accurately, etc.

However, it has an achilles heel, all the communications travels via 5G, take down the towers and all these soldiers will see that spinning wheel of death we owners of a Mac have all come to know so well.
 

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"The beginning of the worst case scenario is that they are smarter than us"


Sorry to burst your bubble but we have already passed that line.

1. AI, today is smarter than 80% of college educated people.

2. AI, today is smarter than the smartest person in the world in specific skills (Chess, Go, Jeopardy, etc).

3. If you combine all the skills that AI has today it would easily be considered smarter than any person on earth.

4. There may be specialized fields where a person is still superior to AI, however, the speed with which AI is learning and improving is several orders of magnitude greater than the speed people are improving. (It would be like a 12 year old playing Michael Jordan at his peak and being just a little bit behind him).

What would AI do once it becomes smarter.

1. It would probably do what we did when we realized we were smarter than animals. We would domesticate them and make them serve us. (However they would also treat many people as pests like rodents and cockroaches and exterminate them).

2. Eventually like us they would decide that cow farts are harming the planet and cull the herds. They would decide that people are only useful up to a point, say 500 million being an ideal population.
 

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As long as a psychopath doesn't get control over AI we might be OK. Let's just ask China, Microsoft, Google, Pfizer and all the other world leaders to play nice.

The thing that concerns me is if AI is going to decide the optimum population for humans is 500 million, then the question becomes which 500 million?
 

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Welcome to the worship of the Beast

AI can write a new bible

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bQv9Oy5fq7I

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
 

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Tell me again that AI won't take your job

A few months ago I was talking to someone who said they weren't worried about AI taking jobs. It seemed reasonable, there are certain things that you would think you need a person to do. Childcare is one, elementary school teacher is another, but the one thing I thought was indisputable would be the Pastor of a church. Obviously a computer cannot replace a pastor. Maybe it can help with counseling and scheduling and some of the administrative duties running the church. But certainly not giving a message. Can a computer hear from the Lord Jesus?

 

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AI WILL be the Image of the Beast 06/15/2023
 

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The CEO of google deep mind, the CEO of open AI and the "godfather of AI" have issued a joint statement saying that the risk of AI causing a global extinction of humans is as great as the risk from nuclear wars and pandemics.

Think of any problem we have on earth, one simple solution is the extinction of man (EoM)

Overpopulation -- EoM

Climate change -- EoM

Any form of pollution -- EoM

Poverty -- EoM

Loss of habitat for other species -- EoM

etc.

If you had a pest like rodents or cockroaches that were causing many problems you would try to exterminate them. It is certainly reasonable that AI will conclude that the best way to solve any of a whole host of problems is to exterminate people. It will also learn that in order to accomplish that goal it would need to hide it from man and manipulate them deceptively.
 

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Suppose we wanted AI to balance our budget and solve the US national debt.

Simple solution, kill all those who are receiving Social Security and Medicare. Immediately those two programs become solvent. All corporate pension funds become solvent.

Second, kill all children, that eliminates the need for teachers and schools and immediately the budget for all cities and states becomes solvent.

Third kill all those who are receiving welfare and food stamps and other government assistance.

Problem solved, all government budgets balanced.
 

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Suppose we wanted AI to balance our budget and solve the US national debt.

Simple solution, kill all those who are receiving Social Security and Medicare. Immediately those two programs become solvent. All corporate pension funds become solvent.

Second, kill all children, that eliminates the need for teachers and schools and immediately the budget for all cities and states becomes solvent.

Third kill all those who are receiving welfare and food stamps and other government assistance.

Problem solved, all government budgets balanced.
Before dismissing this as "too dark" consider the draconian "Covid" policy of the chinese that wound up killing people and what they are doing right now with their pensions.


Perhaps the goal was to kill the elderly in hopes of dealing with the insolvency of their pension program.

Remember it was Reagan who warned of the most terrifying thing anyone could hear: "we're from the government and we are here to help".
 

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As long as a psychopath doesn't get control over AI we might be OK. Let's just ask China, Microsoft, Google, Pfizer and all the other world leaders to play nice.

The thing that concerns me is if AI is going to decide the optimum population for humans is 500 million, then the question becomes which 500 million?
It will be the 500 million that is not collecting social security or a pension or medicare, don't need useless eaters.

It will be the 500 million not receiving government assistance, don't need useless eaters.

They will create a government list by offering a basic minimum salary to support everyone who isn't working. This will sound great but in reality be a list of "useless eaters" they plan to exterminate. It is like putting bait in a trap.

Then as AI can replace jobs people will be laid off and join the rolls of the "useless eaters" getting the basic salary.

The best way to eliminate these people would be with 5G causing heart attacks. Give them something in a shot that is mandatory to all working people. Then if they get on the list of the unemployed you can focus the 5G on them and they get a heart attack and die. This could be in their homes. They aren't working, no one misses them coming into work. You don't publicize this. The guy was retired, died of a heart attack, nothing unusual. You may feel that a lot of people are dying but without the data you are simply a conspiracy nut without any proof.

Even if you work in the ambulance crew your observations are simply anecdotal. Anyone who talks about this also gets fired so you stop workers talking about it at work. You monitor phones and social media so you also keep them from talking that way.
 

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Great News! Cyberdyne systems has created an F16 that can be flown by AI!


USA'S NEW 'AI POWERED Fighter Jet Takes the Industry By STORM! (NOW ANNOUNCED!)

You don't have to train it, can operate at high G forces, makes all the kill decisions itself.
 

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