Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school
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Most of the people my age realize the importance of vaccinations. We don't see children with polio, smallpox scars, dying at age two or three from the measles, etc. These diseases are virtually eliminated because of mandatory vaccinations. I know that my great grandmother would have gladly given her daughter that died at 35 from cervical cancer, a Gardasil vaccination. All my granddaughters and great granddaughters that reached 12 after Gardasil became available have received the vaccination, and I'll assure you that none have autism or any other side effect. Every double blind study of Gardasil has shown no significant increase in autism. The results are available at the FDA and manufacturer websites.
Many people have allergies to the ingredients of some vaccines. The manufacturer of each drug lists its ingredients. Read the labels before you take them.
If you have questions, ask your doctor. He/she is much better equipped to answer your questions than anyone (including myself) to offer advice on your specific case.
I will caution each and every one of you here, that if someone suffers from injuries that result following your advice, God will hold you responsible for providing the advice.
Many people have allergies to the ingredients of some vaccines. The manufacturer of each drug lists its ingredients. Read the labels before you take them.
If you have questions, ask your doctor. He/she is much better equipped to answer your questions than anyone (including myself) to offer advice on your specific case.
I will caution each and every one of you here, that if someone suffers from injuries that result following your advice, God will hold you responsible for providing the advice.
I believe you're referring to "Laymen". Who has informed anyone to ignore symptoms of such a disease? Or to just blatantly ignore symptoms of any disease for that matter? You'll have to post the quote to illustrate what you're referring to specifically. I'm the one who certainly went into the issue of big pharma and doctors pushing drugs as sole solutions. I encouraged others to educate themselves and look beyond this at other holistic measures. I can't find where I made such an extreme statement though, as is the running theme of your posts in this thread and others and I suspect that's just the usual reaction in contrast to what's actually advocated.
Making blanket statements like this:
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Is entirely distinct from encouraging an audience to look into vaccinations, study further and consider holistic measures as an alternative. The choice is entirely up to the individuals involved, however myself and others do have the right to provide a broader perspective that goes beyond just taking the doctor at face value.
Just as He will with every breath we draw, not just in this thread, but on every other post on this site and our every deed here in this life. I stand by my posts 100% and I'm assured that putting a different alternative school of thought and measures for the audience to simply consider on the table is acceptable.
Making blanket statements like this:
or
Is entirely distinct from encouraging an audience to look into vaccinations, study further and consider holistic measures as an alternative. The choice is entirely up to the individuals involved, however myself and others do have the right to provide a broader perspective that goes beyond just taking the doctor at face value.
Just as He will with every breath we draw, not just in this thread, but on every other post on this site and our every deed here in this life. I stand by my posts 100% and I'm assured that putting a different alternative school of thought and measures for the audience to simply consider on the table is acceptable.
Go for it! My kids are 11 and 10. My children each have one friend that's being raised by a Grandparent or Grandparents because the parents flaked. I have seen parents verbally assault school personal in front of their children without any shame. I've taught my children that when you're in someone else's home you don't raid their kitchen for food, if you're thirsty ask for a glass of water. If you go somewhere with them do not ask them to buy you things, unless of course you have your own money and you would like their help at the cash register. Don't just walk in their home, knock first. Don't touch fragile things and follow their house rules.
The above are things that have happened when my kids have had friends over. My son had a neighborhood friend for a while, my door is locked almost all the time, he asked if I could leave it unlocked for him. I said, no, ring the doorbell. He'd raid my fridge and cupboards, I said in a nice way, please ask first. His Mom told me that she would just let my Son do those things at her house, no problem. They were always at my house. Common courtesy is severely lacking these day's and it bothers me. Most of the time they're emulating what they see at home. Oh and they drank a lot of Mountain Dew , lol.
That mountain dew is the nectar of tardism. It's like an acid that eats away at a person's mind and soul. But it wasn't good enough to quench the thirst of the trailer parks. Next it was the red bull, then the code red. They even devised an evil tonic of double dew surge amp that is made from the bile of satan himself. PepsiCo should be brought before a tribunal for genocide.
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I read a story from NPR about the correlation with sugary drinks like Mountain Dew and the rotting teeth of some of the most vulnerable poor children in the Appalachian mountains. It's bad stuff.
'Mountain Dew Mouth' Is Destroying Appalachia's Teeth, Critics Say : The Salt : NPR
I read a story from NPR about the correlation with sugary drinks like Mountain Dew and the rotting teeth of some of the most vulnerable poor children in the Appalachian mountains. It's bad stuff.
'Mountain Dew Mouth' Is Destroying Appalachia's Teeth, Critics Say : The Salt : NPR
There you go. I posted that yesterday, and now look what is in today's NYC newspaper.
Ouch! Retiree healthcare costs hit record $260K
By Post Staff Report
August 16, 2016 | 11:14am
The New York Post
The average 65-year-old couple retiring today will need $260,000 just to cover healthcare expenses, a new study shows.
That’s a six percent jump over last year’s estimated $245,000 and an 18 percent surge since 2014, according to Fidelity’s annual report on retiree health care expenses.
It’s also the highest figure since 2002, when the investment giant started crunching how much a couple will need to set aside for the rest of their lives if they retire now.
This year, Fidelity pointed the finger at prescription drugs, especially high-priced niche drugs, for driving up costs. As the economy improves, retirees are also using more health care.
Out-of-pocket prescription drug costs represent about a quarter percent of the total $260,000.
Around a third goes to Medicare premiums, including Part B (doctor visits and outpatient care) and Part D (prescription drugs).
Another 40 percent will go to co-payments, deductibles and expenses for things not covered by Medicare, such as most vision, hearing and dental costs.
Ouch! Retiree healthcare costs hit record $260K
By Post Staff Report
August 16, 2016 | 11:14am
The New York Post
The average 65-year-old couple retiring today will need $260,000 just to cover healthcare expenses, a new study shows.
That’s a six percent jump over last year’s estimated $245,000 and an 18 percent surge since 2014, according to Fidelity’s annual report on retiree health care expenses.
It’s also the highest figure since 2002, when the investment giant started crunching how much a couple will need to set aside for the rest of their lives if they retire now.
This year, Fidelity pointed the finger at prescription drugs, especially high-priced niche drugs, for driving up costs. As the economy improves, retirees are also using more health care.
Out-of-pocket prescription drug costs represent about a quarter percent of the total $260,000.
Around a third goes to Medicare premiums, including Part B (doctor visits and outpatient care) and Part D (prescription drugs).
Another 40 percent will go to co-payments, deductibles and expenses for things not covered by Medicare, such as most vision, hearing and dental costs.
And on a related note, that should surprise no one...
Aetna ditching 70% of its ObamaCare business
By Carl Campanile
August 16, 2016 | 9:24am
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Photo: AP
The New York Post
Insurance giant Aetna won’t be offering coverage under ObamaCare next year in 11 of the 15 states it now serves — an announcement that instantly became an issue in the presidential race.
Aetna’s decision led Donald Trump to charge that President Obama’s health care reform was “imploding.”
“Aetna’s decision to leave the Affordable Care Act’s public marketplaces is the latest blow to this broken law that is slowly imploding under its regulatory red tape,” said Trump campaign deputy national policy director Dan Kowalski.
“Millions of Americans have lost their health coverage under this disastrous policy, eliminating their ability to choose their doctors. Thousands of businesses have been forced to cut employment or shutter their doors in response to Obama’s signature achievement,” he added.
The company had previously warned that it expected to lose more than $300 million this year on the 900,000 patients it covers under the Affordable Care Act.
Aetna said it is pulling out of ObamaCare markets in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Texas.
Aetna does not currently offer the policies in New York.
It does offer other medical insurance to individuals and small businesses as well as large employers in the state, officials said.
It will continue to offer policies in Delaware, Iowa, Nebraska and Virginia.
ObamaCare is credited with expanding coverage to millions of previously uninsured or under-insured people.
But insurers have complained they have lost money on the policies. United Health Group and Humana are other insurers exiting ObamaCare plans.
Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini, in a statement, said there were not enough younger, healthier customers signing up to make ObamaCare policies sustainable.
“The vast majority of payers have experienced continued financial stress within their individual public exchange business. Providing affordable, high-quality health care options to consumers is not possible without a balanced risk pool,” Bertolini said.
More than a dozen nonprofit insurance co-ops have shut down in the past couple years.
The pullouts could spell trouble because competition is supposed to help control price increases.
Some states like Alaska and Oklahoma will be left with only one insurer selling ObamaCare plans to individuals in 2017.
More densely populated states like New York say their ObamaCare markets remain strong.
But rates for customers are skyrocketing to maintain stability.
Citing increased medical costs, New York recently authorized insurers offering individual ObamaCare plans to increase premiums by an average 16.6 percent — the highest rate hike in the program’s four-year existence.
New York’s small businesses will get hit with an average 8.3 percent rate hike.
Aetna ditching 70% of its ObamaCare business
By Carl Campanile
August 16, 2016 | 9:24am
Modal Trigger
Photo: AP
The New York Post
Insurance giant Aetna won’t be offering coverage under ObamaCare next year in 11 of the 15 states it now serves — an announcement that instantly became an issue in the presidential race.
Aetna’s decision led Donald Trump to charge that President Obama’s health care reform was “imploding.”
“Aetna’s decision to leave the Affordable Care Act’s public marketplaces is the latest blow to this broken law that is slowly imploding under its regulatory red tape,” said Trump campaign deputy national policy director Dan Kowalski.
“Millions of Americans have lost their health coverage under this disastrous policy, eliminating their ability to choose their doctors. Thousands of businesses have been forced to cut employment or shutter their doors in response to Obama’s signature achievement,” he added.
The company had previously warned that it expected to lose more than $300 million this year on the 900,000 patients it covers under the Affordable Care Act.
Aetna said it is pulling out of ObamaCare markets in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Texas.
Aetna does not currently offer the policies in New York.
It does offer other medical insurance to individuals and small businesses as well as large employers in the state, officials said.
It will continue to offer policies in Delaware, Iowa, Nebraska and Virginia.
ObamaCare is credited with expanding coverage to millions of previously uninsured or under-insured people.
But insurers have complained they have lost money on the policies. United Health Group and Humana are other insurers exiting ObamaCare plans.
Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini, in a statement, said there were not enough younger, healthier customers signing up to make ObamaCare policies sustainable.
“The vast majority of payers have experienced continued financial stress within their individual public exchange business. Providing affordable, high-quality health care options to consumers is not possible without a balanced risk pool,” Bertolini said.
More than a dozen nonprofit insurance co-ops have shut down in the past couple years.
The pullouts could spell trouble because competition is supposed to help control price increases.
Some states like Alaska and Oklahoma will be left with only one insurer selling ObamaCare plans to individuals in 2017.
More densely populated states like New York say their ObamaCare markets remain strong.
But rates for customers are skyrocketing to maintain stability.
Citing increased medical costs, New York recently authorized insurers offering individual ObamaCare plans to increase premiums by an average 16.6 percent — the highest rate hike in the program’s four-year existence.
New York’s small businesses will get hit with an average 8.3 percent rate hike.
How can this country keep up this economic pace?
Our military costs are by far the highest in the world.
Ditto our health care.
We are on the path to socialism, so those costs are rising.
We have more people then ever in civil service jobs. You know, the ones where you retire after 20 years and get pensions from usually at $50,000 a year; in many cases more.
Multiply that by 30 years the average person with a 20 year job will have in retirement, and you at 1.5 million per person per average length of pension payout, And my numbers are probably low. It is probably closer to 2 million per person per pension.
We are printing money we don't have.
We are losing jobs over seas.
We are losing companies to overseas, and their taxes with it.
Our business costs due to regulations are the highest in the world.
Our government is over loaded with government bonds.
People can't save money anymore. They have not for about 30 years now.
How are we getting out of this?
Our military costs are by far the highest in the world.
Ditto our health care.
We are on the path to socialism, so those costs are rising.
We have more people then ever in civil service jobs. You know, the ones where you retire after 20 years and get pensions from usually at $50,000 a year; in many cases more.
Multiply that by 30 years the average person with a 20 year job will have in retirement, and you at 1.5 million per person per average length of pension payout, And my numbers are probably low. It is probably closer to 2 million per person per pension.
We are printing money we don't have.
We are losing jobs over seas.
We are losing companies to overseas, and their taxes with it.
Our business costs due to regulations are the highest in the world.
Our government is over loaded with government bonds.
People can't save money anymore. They have not for about 30 years now.
How are we getting out of this?