Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

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SilverFox7

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Yes, as a Christian I certainly would too; however, we don't live in theocracy but a democratic republic. Are you in favor of making the US a Christian theocracy?
I certainly am not. We need checks and balances on power due to our sinful nature and this fallen world.

The theocracy I'm looking forward to is Jesus Christ's return as our King.
 
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Yes, as a Christian I certainly would too; however, we don't live in theocracy but a democratic republic. Are you in favor of making the US a Christian theocracy?
I would want to live in a Christian theocracy, but I doubt that will ever happen. If it did, I imagine it would only be a small territory that manages to do this. Of course it would probably end up having what I will call the North Korea problem. The North Korean system might not be the best, but they suffer from economic sanctions and isolation being imposed upon them. Such a Christian nation that doesn't have a Rothschild (or other scumbag) bank and doesn't allow for usury would certainly get similar isolation treatment. They'll probably come up with reasons why the place needs to be invaded, maybe stage another 9/11 or whatever other nonsense they need to do.

The problem with the governments of the world is they are Satanic. A Christian theocratic nation might end up with a faker who is really corrupt. At least there would be some good morals as a result of trying to keep up the appearance of good morals. The modern left doesn't care about such things and ultimately has been given some pseudo-morality where they think they're going to eradicate racism by being racist and sexism by being sexist and ultimately just live in a fantasy world where Muslims who despise leftist values are great and wonderful and Christians who oppose them are evil.

Ultimately, the USA is like a person with cancer. Parts of it definitely need to be cut off to even end up with anything that resemble traditional America.
 

ResidentAlien

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Ultimately, the USA is like a person with cancer. Parts of it definitely need to be cut off to even end up with anything that resemble traditional America.
That's really the end game for Christian nationalism; a return to some idyllic America from the past. That might be okay, but I can't figure out what America they're talking about. To me a more rational and realistic approach would be to try and figure out the best way forward, not backward.
 

Susanna

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That's really the end game for Christian nationalism; a return to some idyllic America from the past. That might be okay, but I can't figure out what America they're talking about. To me a more rational and realistic approach would be to try and figure out the best way forward, not backward.
I wonder what idyllic part they are longing for. For some reason the 1950s seem to be a period certain people admire. Sure was good times. Segregation for starters, women had to ask the husband for money and we wasn’t allowed to do anything without a permission from a man.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I certainly am not. We need checks and balances on power due to our sinful nature and this fallen world.

The theocracy I'm looking forward to is Jesus Christ's return as our King.

Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Amen.

On the Christian nationalist movement, it seems like the world system, media, politics, etc are selling the idea that Christians are violent extremists who must be designated as trrists. They did this in the past by their term "Fundamentalists" to demonize evangelical Christians who are normally conservative. I noticed this when they politically labeled Muslims as "Fundamentalists", only to equate both them and Christianity. They were successful in accomplishing that operation. It was a political and a social strategic op that will one day be used as a military op as the Bible describes. It has already been used to that extent in some of the northern African countries, South Africa and China.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The theocracy I'm looking forward to is Jesus Christ's return as our King.
On the original topic,
What I am hearing in conversations with dark skinned people arriving here from the big cities is what this man says from the 14:00 mark on.

They are threatened by those establishment marxist leftist groups to be scared of "whitey." "They are all KKK mbers in those conservative states and will hate you and harm you every chance they get."
This is what they are being manipulated into thinking. So I've been told. Then they come to an area and instead of integrating in a healthy positive manner, they project false attitudes upon the whole of the people that they should be interacting with. They have been divided and presented new cultural norms that has kept in large part, those in cities weak and fighting against those who could be their allies instead of recognizing who the true enemies are. One thing I give the anti-christian left is their skill at manipulating attitudes through emotional race baiting propaganda.
I don't think you have fallen for that, btw.
I think you brought up a topic that is in much need for honest solutions. I'm glad you are breaking into that area.
 

gb9

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I wonder what idyllic part they are longing for. For some reason the 1950s seem to be a period certain people admire. Sure was good times. Segregation for starters, women had to ask the husband for money and we wasn’t allowed to do anything without a permission from a man.
seems a bit like you do not like america very much.....
 

ResidentAlien

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I wonder what idyllic part they are longing for. For some reason the 1950s seem to be a period certain people admire. Sure was good times. Segregation for starters, women had to ask the husband for money and we wasn’t allowed to do anything without a permission from a man.
The reality is good and evil have always existed side-by-side in the world and always will until the Lord returns and extinguishes evil. Our role as believers isn't to eliminate evil but to spread as much good as we can in the Lord's name.
 

gb9

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I have spent 1/3 of my life in the armed forces under five presidents. I haven’t done that because I “do not like america very much…..”.
thank you for your service.
 

SilverFox7

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Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Amen.
Amen brother. Thy kingdom come and thy will be done sums up the ultimate solution to this world's woes.

We need the stoney hearts removed and replaced with hearts of flesh, our corrupt human nature changed into compassionate Spirit-filled people who serve God and others with a selfless and willing heart.
 
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Gojira

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At this point I don't even believe in representative democrazy anymore. Maybe some limited democracy could work, but voting should be a privilege only granted to good, intelligent people who know what's going on and have some kind of stake in the system.
But then we run into the problem of who decides and how do we decide who's good and intelligent. Everything is potentially subject to corruption. That's why we who are salt must be on our toes and ever-vigilant -- until Christ sits in Jerusalem.

Unfortunately, too many Christians believe politics to be beneath their callings. This is foolish in the extreme.
 
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Gojira

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Perhaps that was not a good choice of words.
No, I meant what I said. If they can say things like "fight" and "harass them everywhere you see them" and "we'll bring the whirlwind", and have it all be "figurative", so can I.
 
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Gojira

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“Once and for all”. Well, that doesn’t sound good. What is your preferred method of “once and for all”? And what is your preferred outcome?
Gee, I'm sorry. I meant to say that the moderate Republicans should come along and play tiddlywinks with the Dems.

You read gun-blazing militancy in everything you come across. It would serve you well to remove those preconceived notions from your reading.
 
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Gojira

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The far right, historically if one studies the Tories both in Canada and England, were indeed reactionary.

I see nothing demonic in this historical representation.
I think you can be reactionary and still Left. Hitler sure was.
 

SilverFox7

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But then we run into the problem of who decides and how do we decide who's good and intelligent. Everything is potentially subject to corruption. That's why we who are salt must be on our toes and ever-vigilant -- until Christ sits in Jerusalem.

Unfortunately, too many Christians believe politics to be beneath their callings. This is foolish in the extreme.
It's that delicate balance of being in the world but not of the world as Christ's disciples.

Our government (i.e. politics) needs us as Christians now more than ever. We are salt, and we need to be soldiers for Christ as well against the principalities of darkness and forces of evil. Our warfare is in the spiritual realm.

I do not promote a violent approach, however, unless we need to defend ourselves, our loved ones, communities. and nation as a whole.

We can't bring about the Kingdom of God by our efforts alone, but we can proclaim and live that Kingdom life as pilgrims in this world who are longing for Jesus' return.
 
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But then we run into the problem of who decides and how do we decide who's good and intelligent. Everything is potentially subject to corruption. That's why we who are salt must be on our toes and ever-vigilant -- until Christ sits in Jerusalem.

Unfortunately, too many Christians believe politics to be beneath their callings. This is foolish in the extreme.
Yeah, I have realized these problems before. At this point I see the problem as one of creating a system that resists money corruption and blackmail, and we also need to fight subversion instead of just letting it run wild. Listen to Yuri Bezmenov, and you'll learn about how the Soviet Union put most of their spying budget into subverting other countries, particularly the United States. The United States did nothing to resist. Actually, at this point, it should be clear the 3 letter agencies of the USA are subverting their own population with anything that is negative and promotes degeneracy.
 

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Gee, I'm sorry. I meant to say that the moderate Republicans should come along and play tiddlywinks with the Dems.

You read gun-blazing militancy in everything you come across. It would serve you well to remove those preconceived notions from your reading.
I’m sorry to step on your toes. “Once and for all” solutions has a certain ring to it in the military.