Civil war coming to America?

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In the event of a coup or a takeover, would you take up arms to restore lawful authority to America?

  • Yes. I would take up arms until every last traitor was rounded up and put on trial.

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • Yes, but in a limited manner. I would take up arms to protect my community from traitors.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • No, I would not take up arms, unless my family was directly threatened.

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • No, I would not take up arms. All forms of killing are sin.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Other. The above actions do not properly describe the action I would take.

    Votes: 15 51.7%

  • Total voters
    29

Lisamn

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What use are scatterd people with guns vs an organised Army... We're not together, we're too split up...
What will you and your gun do if the UN take over??? A revolution requires coordination and that requires unity

Just look how divided it is... Using guns on eachother the Marxist are loving it...
Besides, the definition (russian definition) of subversion is to take over without applying force or ever shooting a gun

This has been going on since the 50s
Didn’t all revolutionaries have guns?

Who‘s using guns on each other besides criminals. Law abiding citizens don’t use guns on people, unless in very rare cases.

In Colorado..antifa or blm marched down a suburban street thinking they were gonna terrorize the people on that street. However, they were mistaken about that. The men in the community..who happened to be home because of covid..didn’t allow it and gathered together against the agitators and kicked them out of the neighborhood...thus ended that and potentially antifa/blm targeting other streets. It happened earlier last year. I would link to it..but I can’t find it on the internet now...wow!

I wasn’t asking this question because I have a gun and want to use it...I just know people with guns and read the articles talking about how people have stocked up on guns and ammo since Obama’s been in office. And I know he there were staged events in Obama’s term that they tried to use them to get rid of all the guns. That school killing on the east coast comes to mind. Anyway..if most Americans are armed to the teeth..I don’t think it will be easy to come and get them from those Americans is my thinking.
 

PC123

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Sorry ladies but it wasn't u girls that invented feminism... LoL they fooled you too, it was their idea

In the 50s one mans wage was plenty to raise a family own a house go on plenty vacations... The wife could work...
This lie that women were oppressed is Satans lie... There were women everything in the 1800's.
Fewer because they chose home over work, family over work..

T any ladies what happens when u have a child... Some thing changes. A new person is born... A new love is found...
And it seems like you girls didn't really know that joy and love for child is until its there... Cos before the child modern girls are just like whatever then after their first child they transform into mothers... Im i even making sense...

Young people are naïve, easy to manipulate. And the Marxist have got into our education system and perverted it all
 

Lisamn

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Now the mother must work
That is sad...and the kids go to daycare...not a good trade off. I think you should mention, if you already haven’t the place abortion has in degrading life even more. Life isn’t sacred anymore. Your own mother can kill you and if she doesn’t do that you end up in daycare and someone else raises you.

Though some women are staying home to raise their kids. God made it come to pass that I was could stay home and raise my children..very blessed to have been able to do that...and I owe it to God, He made the way!
 

PC123

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Didn’t all revolutionaries have guns?

Who‘s using guns on each other besides criminals. Law abiding citizens don’t use guns on people, unless in very rare cases.

In Colorado..antifa or blm marched down a suburban street thinking they were gonna terrorize the people on that street. However, they were mistaken about that. The men in the community..who happened to be home because of covid..didn’t allow it and gathered together against the agitators and kicked them out of the neighborhood...thus ended that and potentially antifa/blm targeting other streets. It happened earlier last year. I would link to it..but I can’t find it on the internet now...wow!

I wasn’t asking this question because I have a gun and want to use it...I just know people with guns and read the articles talking about how people have stocked up on guns and ammo since Obama’s been in office. And I know he there were staged events in Obama’s term that they tried to use them to get rid of all the guns. That school killing on the east coast comes to mind. Anyway..if most Americans are armed to the teeth..I don’t think it will be easy to come and get them from those Americans is my thinking.
I'll grab the lecture man... You questions are valid and im not as qualified... I highly recommend it....
But i heard that something like 10% of Americans have 90% of guns... At best u would form a small resistance, live somewhere else and use gurilla war tactics, terrorist tactics but against an army... An organised army with navy and airforce and ordinance... Only aniother Army can take them on...

After WW2 the Soviet union took many European countries without a shot.. Hitler took Austria, Hungary, Czecoslovakia, and Poland without one shot fire before England said enough...

Forget about America vs another country now but... Its the elite taking over the working class and the elite are swallowing us without a fight. In fact they have America fighting each other. It was their plan from the start
 

iamsoandso

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Women entered the work force before that, even, since during the war there was a shortage of men for factory work etc, and after that, women seemed more eager to break free of the constraints of being confined to domestic duties, family and home life only, although I have also heard (not sure at all from whom) that women's lib was just a guise to enable men to have freer sexual access to women. And we can certainly see where that has gotten us, with single parent families burgeoning and the rise in crime rates reported among young men raised without proper male supervision and role models. Not to mention the sheer numbers of abortions being performed, as people wish to indulge in behaviors that often inevitably lead to specific outcomes, without any desire for taking any responsibility for those outcomes.

This is Aaron Russo
he ran for Governor of Nevada in the 90"s and was a friend of Nick R. there used to be an older video of Nick R. himself talking of similar things(I'll see if I can locate it) but A. Russo is talking about the same things. If you google Nick R. you will see many photos of him an Aaron Russo together(click images) but it's really interesting to research some of the things about this and the R's reasoning behind doing this.
 

PC123

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That is sad...and the kids go to daycare...not a good trade off. I think you should mention, if you already haven’t the place abortion has in degrading life even more. Life isn’t sacred anymore. Your own mother can kill you and if she doesn’t do that you end up in daycare and someone else raises you.

Though some women are staying home to raise their kids. God made it come to pass that I was could stay home and raise my children..very blessed to have been able to do that...and I owe it to God, He made the way!
Ive asked sooo many women this question "would u rather work or be with your kids?" Only one girl said yes, yet b4 they have kids their indoctrinator to think that like inferior or oppressive or slave or something...
I never forget asking my mum after i explained how one mans wage was enough, i asked her and she started to cry i ahd to hold her... After all those years she still had that awful feeling of not being here for us... She worked afternoon shift, dad took us after school and she would work to midnight.... Damn criminals... I hate society hate this society so much im leaving in a few weeks

So angry thinking about that it brings me tears... Forced to work to pay the mortgage...

U know what always blew my mind... The price of property.... How can the land possibly be more expensive that building the house...
There is sooo much land her everywhere... What gives the government the right to claim that land???? I was born here too... Why don't they look after us... Why do they claim it then sell it back to use... The government has been given too much power by the people... We ekect them and united we can cakll the shots... But they divided us
 

PC123

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@Lisamn Watch this if your interested in the ideological side of it and how America slowly got subverted
His former KGB who defeted to America and tried to warn u guys in the 80s... Its so prophetic he says stuff then then is happening now like new normal...

U will see its an hour. But chill, were so fussy now most of us don't even have the patience to watch a 10 minute video... LoL
Ill often give a vide 5 seconds, if it shows nithing i move on.... Lol... No good but. U learn very little in a 5 minute video

So trust me... Find some time and put your feet up and prepare to get blown away by Yuri

He has also a one hour interview which is just as informative... Every American and even every westerner should watch this... Omly then could we have a chance to unite in numbers cos i don't think 10% of people know this Marxist movement like this
 

Lisamn

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I'll grab the lecture man... You questions are valid and im not as qualified... I highly recommend it....
But i heard that something like 10% of Americans have 90% of guns... At best u would form a small resistance, live somewhere else and use gurilla war tactics, terrorist tactics but against an army... An organised army with navy and airforce and ordinance... Only aniother Army can take them on...

After WW2 the Soviet union took many European countries without a shot.. Hitler took Austria, Hungary, Czecoslovakia, and Poland without one shot fire before England said enough...

Forget about America vs another country now but... Its the elite taking over the working class and the elite are swallowing us without a fight. In fact they have America fighting each other. It was their plan from the start
Everyone my husband knows and his relatives all have guns...I wouldn’t think of ourselves as the 10 percent though. My daughters friend, some of her friends and her mom all just got their conceal carry permits.

We do have a history that says that small troops can take on a big army...however, idk if that’s true in the modern world.

Didn’t the soviets work out a deal after ww2? Or is that how you’re trying to say they got countries without firing a shot? Did the towns that Hitler took..all have the 2nd amendment? Could that have been a reason?

What American’s do you think are fighting each other?

Ive asked sooo many women this question "would u rather work or be with your kids?" Only one girl said yes, yet b4 they have kids their indoctrinator to think that like inferior or oppressive or slave or something...
I never forget asking my mum after i explained how one mans wage was enough, i asked her and she started to cry i ahd to hold her... After all those years she still had that awful feeling of not being here for us... She worked afternoon shift, dad took us after school and she would work to midnight.... Damn criminals... I hate society hate this society so much im leaving in a few weeks

So angry thinking about that it brings me tears... Forced to work to pay the mortgage...

U know what always blew my mind... The price of property.... How can the land possibly be more expensive that building the house...
There is sooo much land her everywhere... What gives the government the right to claim that land???? I was born here too... Why don't they look after us... Why do they claim it then sell it back to use... The government has been given too much power by the people... We ekect them and united we can cakll the shots... But they divided us
Ya, its sad for women and kids all around.

Where are you leaving to?

You want the government to look after you? Its better if you look after yourself.

I would say the government thinks they own everything and claim the land because who’s going to dispute it?
 

Lisamn

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@Lisamn Watch this if your interested in the ideological side of it and how America slowly got subverted
His former KGB who defeted to America and tried to warn u guys in the 80s... Its so prophetic he says stuff then then is happening now like new normal...

U will see its an hour. But chill, were so fussy now most of us don't even have the patience to watch a 10 minute video... LoL
Ill often give a vide 5 seconds, if it shows nithing i move on.... Lol... No good but. U learn very little in a 5 minute video

So trust me... Find some time and put your feet up and prepare to get blown away by Yuri

He has also a one hour interview which is just as informative... Every American and even every westerner should watch this... Omly then could we have a chance to unite in numbers cos i don't think 10% of people know this Marxist movement like this
I’ll try to watch it later, thanks for sharing.

All I know is that in the end times...the world will get worse and worse because that is what scripture tells us. Satan is the ruler of this world...so how couldn’t that be true?
As Christians..we must cling to God in our lives to help us live our lives like He would have us live..and also to be overcomers.
 

iamsoandso

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Didn’t all revolutionaries have guns?

Who‘s using guns on each other besides criminals. Law abiding citizens don’t use guns on people, unless in very rare cases.

In Colorado..antifa or blm marched down a suburban street thinking they were gonna terrorize the people on that street. However, they were mistaken about that. The men in the community..who happened to be home because of covid..didn’t allow it and gathered together against the agitators and kicked them out of the neighborhood...thus ended that and potentially antifa/blm targeting other streets. It happened earlier last year. I would link to it..but I can’t find it on the internet now...wow!

I wasn’t asking this question because I have a gun and want to use it...I just know people with guns and read the articles talking about how people have stocked up on guns and ammo since Obama’s been in office. And I know he there were staged events in Obama’s term that they tried to use them to get rid of all the guns. That school killing on the east coast comes to mind. Anyway..if most Americans are armed to the teeth..I don’t think it will be easy to come and get them from those Americans is my thinking.

Their going to make you have a license to posses them(not take them from you) and control "how much" ammunition you can buy https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717 so in other words the firearms will be useless.
 

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I have checked out of politics. Can't do anything to change it and I don't need the stress. Millions of voters were cheated and now disenfranchised, I'm not interested in voting in another presidential election ever, as the voting system is no longer viable. Not going to live my life in fear of what is to come and I ain't fighting in a civil war for a country I once loved and served, but no longer exists, not to mention it's us few millions against the rest of the world. No one and I mean no other worldly government will come to our aid, but they'll all join in killing us. Everything is in God's hands and that's how I'm living it until I am gone or Christ returns.
 

Lisamn

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KT88

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I have checked out of politics. Can't do anything to change it and I don't need the stress. Millions of voters were cheated and now disenfranchised
"Evidence" presented in over 60 cases says otherwise. Trump and and his GOP enablers are spreading lies and disinformation.

What you have is a sore loser in Chief.
 
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Their going to make you have a license to posses them(not take them from you) and control "how much" ammunition you can buy https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717 so in other words the firearms will be useless.
This bill makes various changes to the federal framework governing the sale, transfer, and possession of firearms and ammunition. Among other things, the bill does the following:
  • generally requires individuals to obtain a license to purchase, acquire, or possess a firearm or ammunition;
  • raises the minimum age—from 18 years to 21 years—to purchase firearms and ammunition;
  • establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties;
  • requires law enforcement agencies to be notified following a firearms-related background check that results in a denial;
  • creates a statutory process for a family or household member to petition a court for an extreme risk protection order to remove firearms from an individual who poses a risk of committing violence;
  • restricts the import, sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices;
  • restricts the manufacture, sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of ghost guns (i.e., guns without serial numbers);
  • makes trafficking in firearms a stand-alone criminal offense;
  • requires federally licensed gun dealers to submit and annually certify compliance with a security plan to detect and deter firearm theft;
  • removes limitations on the civil liability of gun manufacturers;
  • allows the Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards for firearms and firearm components;
  • establishes a community violence intervention grant program; and
  • promotes research on firearms safety and gun violence prevention.
I don't see any real problems in the above.
 
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TheWaytoGo

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I have checked out of politics. Can't do anything to change it and I don't need the stress. Millions of voters were cheated and now disenfranchised, I'm not interested in voting in another presidential election ever, as the voting system is no longer viable. Not going to live my life in fear of what is to come and I ain't fighting in a civil war for a country I once loved and served, but no longer exists, not to mention it's us few millions against the rest of the world. No one and I mean no other worldly government will come to our aid, but they'll all join in killing us. Everything is in God's hands and that's how I'm living it until I am gone or Christ returns.

Well spoken! God installs the world's leaders. He will give a nation leadership according to the righteousness of the people, not according to His people looking downward to themselves demanding a lesser evil rule over them. We now have what He chose for us. We need to take a long, hard look at ourselves.
 

iamsoandso

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Maybe so..but they should have started sooner..there’s a lot of guns and ammo out there.
Okay I'm no threat to anyone anyway so maybe it's best if I'm who points this out. I really meant what I said in post #175 about this being Gods choosing and I am not going to be any part of any type violence anyway. I have always respected the authorities and see them as my fellow citizens who we hired to watch out for our well being and if any of them are watching "thank you for watching out for us".

That said I would caution any of you who are tempted to be led into thinking you are in safe hands by those bragging about "thousands of rounds of..." because it only proves that they are amateurs who are talking a big line of smoke in the first place and so the real military and authorities probably roll on the floor laughing when they see post like that. Why is that they know for a fact that 20 rounds weigh 14 ounces and 5 clips is 100 rounds(so your talking 10 guys per 1000 carrying about 5 pounds in their pockets).

I know this because I hunted for many years and ammo is "you guessed it lead" and it weighs more than you think. Other than that I have and will always follow the law like is in Romans 13(because Jesus said to) and if they check me out I have never been in trouble not even a speeding ticket. So in short there's the guys bragging about the thousands of rounds and there's the real military/feds ect. who travel with "millions of rounds" because they actually know whats real. Past that all I can do is caution people over the ones bragging and point out whats real.
 

iamsoandso

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This bill makes various changes to the federal framework governing the sale, transfer, and possession of firearms and ammunition. Among other things, the bill does the following:
  • generally requires individuals to obtain a license to purchase, acquire, or possess a firearm or ammunition;
  • raises the minimum age—from 18 years to 21 years—to purchase firearms and ammunition;
  • establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties;
  • requires law enforcement agencies to be notified following a firearms-related background check that results in a denial;
  • creates a statutory process for a family or household member to petition a court for an extreme risk protection order to remove firearms from an individual who poses a risk of committing violence;
  • restricts the import, sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices;
  • restricts the manufacture, sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of ghost guns (i.e., guns without serial numbers);
  • makes trafficking in firearms a stand-alone criminal offense;
  • requires federally licensed gun dealers to submit and annually certify compliance with a security plan to detect and deter firearm theft;
  • removes limitations on the civil liability of gun manufacturers;
  • allows the Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards for firearms and firearm components;
  • establishes a community violence intervention grant program; and
  • promotes research on firearms safety and gun violence prevention.
I don't see any real problems in the above.

Yep I've never been in trouble and will keep on following the law. So the only thing I'm gonna shoot at is raccoons if they try getting my quail or the wild dogs that jump my back fence anyway. It's like Romans 13:3 "they are not a terror to good works".
 

PC123

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Everyone my husband knows and his relatives all have guns...I wouldn’t think of ourselves as the 10 percent though. My daughters friend, some of her friends and her mom all just got their conceal carry permits.
The tactic is called subversion. No shots are fired. It takes decades... U have to see the film to know what i mean

But even if the wrong person seizes power what are going to do against the American military with that?

We do have a history that says that small troops can take on a big army...however, idk if that’s true in the modern world.
look i know medieval battles where an army was outnumbered and won a battle... But not a whole war

Didn’t the soviets work out a deal after ww2? Or is that how you’re trying to say they got countries without firing a shot?
After WW2 every country in Europe was devestated had nothing. But the soviets still had some and marched in these countries that knew they were out gunned... Rome didn't fall in battle either
Did the towns that Hitler took..all have the 2nd amendment? Could that have been a reason?
Rewind to before WW2 and there was Germany and England that had the biggest and most advanced forces and France...
Austria used to be Germany and welcomed the union. Italy joined the axis forces. The rest of the countries were too small, under armed and not organised

What American’s do you think are fighting each other?
Is that a joke or.. Im not saying there is a civil war.. Not fighting as in guns
Im saying there is a great division and in fighting trump supporters vs the radical left

Ya, its sad for women and kids all around.

Where are you leaving to?

You want the government to look after you? Its better if you look after yourself.

I would say the government thinks they own everything and claim the land because who’s going to dispute it?
No im disconecting from the matrix. Less government better... Im gonna be a nomad... A combination of bush life and small town. Leave this state cos its a Chinese province...
Work a bit here relax a bit here. Im very resourceful now too. I had this in mind even b4 covid...
We're sucked in to work our whole life only to enjoy the last few years... Stuff that. I work to live, not live to work.
Everyone my husband knows and his relatives all have guns...I wouldn’t think of ourselves as the 10 percent though. My daughters friend, some of her friends and her mom all just got their conceal carry permits.

We do have a history that says that small troops can take on a big army...however, idk if that’s true in the modern world.

Didn’t the soviets work out a deal after ww2? Or is that how you’re trying to say they got countries without firing a shot? Did the towns that Hitler took..all have the 2nd amendment? Could that have been a reason?

What American’s do you think are fighting each other?


Ya, its sad for women and kids all around.

Where are you leaving to?

You want the government to look after you? Its better if you look after yourself.

I would say the government thinks they own everything and claim the land because who’s going to dispute it?
I doing the opposite. Away from government. On the road in a van turned camper.. Where to? I don't know yet...
The only dependence i have is medication for high blood pressure. I think when i become more active in the bush, fishing, biking, hiking, all that i'll get fitter again and the blood pressure will drop hopefully... ;)... Maybe even get my six pack again...;)