Civil war coming to America?

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In the event of a coup or a takeover, would you take up arms to restore lawful authority to America?

  • Yes. I would take up arms until every last traitor was rounded up and put on trial.

    Votes: 4 13.8%

  • Yes, but in a limited manner. I would take up arms to protect my community from traitors.

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • No, I would not take up arms, unless my family was directly threatened.

    Votes: 6 20.7%

  • No, I would not take up arms. All forms of killing are sin.

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Other. The above actions do not properly describe the action I would take.

    Votes: 15 51.7%
  • Total voters
    29
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EleventhHour said:
I was not adding to your comment I was adding to what will happen... and I am pretty sure that He did not tell us to yearn for evil.
But if you have a scripture I will take a look.
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Erm, the wrath of the Lamb is what I perceived him to be referring to (this scenario being a perceived onset). I think this is what he is referring to. The great and terrible day of the Lord.
 
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There Will chaos every where in the world for 7 years before His coming, It doesn't matter If It is civil war or world war 3 or else. Chaos is chaos and mean suffering, death and bloodshed, Nothing we can do but pray and come closer to Him
 
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Nothing in politics is ever what it appears. If the scientific and technological masterminds can continue amazing us with what they create, those who rule us are no less impressive. It is and always has been one world government. Everything else is illusion. The elites gather and decide what the outcomes will be always keeping us divided to keep us weak. They are buying time keeping the population at bay until the end times thins the herd enough to usher in a government to rule the world united effectively.
 
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dodgingstones

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Reading comprehension.... so important....

Read the 24th Chapter of Matthew with understanding.
 
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So true.

If only more people were oriented toward true justice and not "social justice."

Nehemiah6 said:
I would make that title "Jail Time Coming to America".

If all the Deep State operatives, the Antifa thugs, the MS-13 gangsters, the various mafias controlling criminal enterprises, the criminals who have been released when they should be behind bars, and all the traitors and seditionists who are presently running around America were arrested, convicted, and sentenced to serious prison time, there would be no talk of civil war coming to America.
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Desdichado said:
So true. If only more people were oriented toward true justice and not "social justice."
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*Social justice* is a misnomer for Extreme Leftist Anarchism. Just like *Progressivism* which is in fact Regressivism. What these ideologies represent is hatred for the Constitution and the laws of the land, as well as true justice. What the so-called *Social Justice Warriors* (SJWs) really want is to destroy America from within while giving aid and comfort to the enemies of America.
 
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MattforJesus said:
Christians are not to take a life or to fight physically regardless of the situation, and no government or power can rule unless God allows it.

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Where does the Bible say to not take a life or to fight physically?

Please give Scripture...

What you just said as you said it is NOT in the Bible!

If it is please back it up... I could be wrong....
 
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MattforJesus said:
World War 3 will be the religion of Islam against the world, and will not happen until the nations come together and say Peace and safety, but they want to provoke Arabs now, and cause hate and fear against them, and controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

The Arab governments will come together with all the governments but the religion of Islam will say it is an insult to Allah as the world government says it is a hate crime to try to convert someone to your religion punishable by the international criminal court system for they want peace and religion is evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual.
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Ezekiel 38-39 doesn't involve Arabs, but Persians, Turks, Russians and others seeking to sack Israel while the rest of the world - including the Arabs - makes a fuss but doesn't intervene.
 
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posthuman said:
Ezekiel 38-39 doesn't involve Arabs, but Persians, Turks, Russians and others seeking to sack Israel while the rest of the world - including the Arabs - makes a fuss but doesn't intervene.
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interesting how all three of these nations have their fingers in Syria, which has been embroiled in a terrible civil war for almost a decade now, right on the border of Israel, isn't it? and how Isaiah 17 - the obliteration of Damascus - hasn't happened yet?

but a lot of us seem to be getting more excited about the prospect of killing and being killed by our own countrymen ((like that's something to look forward to??)) instead of watching for prophecy to play out in the levant. :(
well, maybe that will be why we don't lift a finger in Ezekiel 39. we'll be too busy hating our neighbors, pretending we're a Godly nation.
 
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dodgingstones

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Again, one only has to understand what Christ said in Mathew, Chpt. 24
to know that the coming tribulations are a sign preceding His return.

Only foolish people think the end of this world will come with peace and joy for all. Read what Jesus says.... goodness...
 
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The problem here is that laws need to be written for the majority. Like the lines on the road, if the rules and laws weren’t there to guide some people, they would be a hazard to themselves and others. Just watch ten minutes of YouTube and see the stupidity of the common man and the millions who cheer them on.

When the time comes, God will lead us to make the right choice, kill or be martyred, follow or hide.
 
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'many faces will be aghast & amazed, for they thought not their modern civilization could be razed...
and the dark clouds loom & that broom of devastation gets ready to sweep...
I tell you, the masked rats will run the show for three-thousand days...
and a scorpion shall kiss a once great nation french-style,
and a serpent will smile at the necking'...

'oh yes, the clock of the last days is ticking and you better be picking yourself up,
for the great disruption shall come and a great sum shall die before their time'...

'I have to confess, I heard a warning but would not heed, now my soul bleeds
upon my broken spirit'...
 
dcontroversal

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To answer several in this thread at the same time....I believe both are coming...Both a civil war and a World War.......and regardless of those that disagree.....I do believe the U.S. will fall in the coming World War!
 
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Moses_Young said:
As an interested onlooker into American politics, it seems to me that every trick in the book is being tried to depose what seems to be legitimately elected leaders (primarily Donald Trump, but other leaders also).

One thing I admire about America's political system is its Second Amendment - the right and responsibility of the citizens to hold the government to account, via the use of force if necessary, if the government starts to act illegally.

However, as Christians, whose kingdom and true King are not of this world, in the event of a political coup by the popular Communist party, or an assassination, or false flag nuclear attack, or some other underhanded tactic, would it be better to let the world deal with the affairs of the world, or as citizens of America, would it be best to fulfill one's responsibilities to restore lawful government to the country?

I ask, because many of the members of the opposing party (e.g. Hillary Clinton), are clearly non-Christians, and would likely go to an eternity in hell were they to die in any coup attempt or subsequent civil war. However, the bible clearly states in Romans that the government of a country does not bear the sword in vain, so it may almost be a dereliction of one's duty and justice, in the event of a coup or takeover and in light of the Second Amendment, if the leaders of the coup were not brought to trial by those holding the ultimate authority - the American citizens.

I trust the above was not offensive, and would be interested to hear Christian responses to (what will hopefully remain) such a hypothetical situation.
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As a Marine (80's) and a well armed believer....I would in a New York second defend my family, friends, property from bloody deceitful men....lethally......I would also use whatever force was necessary to defend and woman or child being abused, raped....and I would use the same level of force to defend one being murdered.....and for sure I would defend a Jewish person and I suppose lay my life down for them as ONE laid his life down fo me!!
 
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jacob_g said:
Where does the Bible say to not take a life or to fight physically?

Please give Scripture...

What you just said as you said it is NOT in the Bible!

If it is please back it up... I could be wrong....
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He posts drivel all the time not found in scripture!
 
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Lightskin said:
Throughout my life I have often prayed, asking God to bless me in a manner by which I never have to take anyone’s life. God has always answered my prayers by blessing me with protection and peace, however the time may have arrived for me to ask God for the overwhelming ability to conquer any enemy by any means necessary.
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I agree....and destiny favors the prepared....come visit Kamp Koolaid!!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
To answer several in this thread at the same time....I believe both are coming...Both a civil war and a World War.......and regardless of those that disagree.....I do believe the U.S. will fall in the coming World War!
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Interesting. I see what I believe are many parallels between the US now and Germany in WWII. And I wonder if the same strategy used to conquer Germany will likewise be wielded against the US. I'm not certain, because I didn't live then, but it is interesting. I would like if Christians in the US could learn from the mistakes made in Germany and change the outcome.
 
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