Since you guys can't seem to be even moderately civil with each other this thread is closed until I can deal with this when I get home from work.
Something for everyone to dwell on for the day:
Matthew 7:1&2 (nasb)
7 “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.