Clyburn "US will Repeat Nazi Germany if Republicans Get Power

[ZNP]

The building was mainly supported by the exterior, but if you removed any part of the interior I'm sure it would be weaken the structure some, but the main structural member was still the exterior.
And I'm not ignoring building three. It was damaged by falling debris from twin tower collapse. What are the chanches that a building would be able to stand for long after thousands of tons of steel and fiery debris fell on top of it?

Building 7 completely and totally collapsed in on itself at 5pm. There might have been some damage, but it is absurd to think that caused the complete collapse of the building.

Anyway it is too late to worry about it now. Judgement has already been determined on the US. We had a chance 19 years ago to repent and do something. Not anymore.

 

[ZNP]

It's been investigated and every one of your theories has been debunked

How do you debunk it without doing the necessary tests? They never demonstrated how a jet fuel fire could cause the total collapse of the building. They have a very sophisticated facility where this test could be done, but never did it.

They never tested the dust around the building for thermite. Others have samples fo the dust so you could test it.

This is the same issue we have with JFK and with the election. If they had simply done a thorough audit of every state election that was in question we wouldn't be here two years later with 59% of the country thinking the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Many people are about to discover that just because they say something is so doesn't make it so.

 

[Dude653]

How do you debunk it without doing the necessary tests? They never demonstrated how a jet fuel fire could cause the total collapse of the building. They have a very sophisticated facility where this test could be done, but never did it.

They never tested the dust around the building for thermite. Others have samples fo the dust so you could test it.

This is the same issue we have with JFK and with the election. If they had simply done a thorough audit of every state election that was in question we wouldn't be here two years later with 59% of the country thinking the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Many people are about to discover that just because they say something is so doesn't make it so.

Going to say this again. Muslims flew planes in the building.
If you think your government is that bad go over there to Afghanistan and live with them and see how they treat Christians over there
And then you have the nerve to say liberals hate America

 

[Handyman62]

OK, you have played around with metal (aluminum, iron, copper?) and it becomes soft and a lower temperature than melting temperature. In your experience wouldn't you expect the first joints to become soft to start to give way, deform and then the building would lean? This was a huge building and they even will admit the center of the building was a major structural support, and the airplane crashed and slid into one side of the building, to one side of that center column that housed all the elevators and it is a large block of elevators and stairways. So then why did the entire thing collapse at the same time? I would think that side of the building would deform first.

Secondly, you keep ignoring building 7. Do you realize that three buildings collapsed but only two were hit by airplanes?

Third, let's say for whatever reason the joists were weakened by the fire and so collapsed onto the floor below. Wouldn't that floor slow the descent? Wouldn't each floor act as a speed bump to the descent? Why is it that once the collapse happened the building fell at virtually the speed of free fall?

Building 7 completely and totally collapsed in on itself at 5pm. There might have been some damage, but it is absurd to think that caused the complete collapse of the building.

Anyway it is too late to worry about it now. Judgement has already been determined on the US. We had a chance 19 years ago to repent and do something. Not anymore.

Look you can think whatever you want about how and why the buildings were brought down. I'm going by what I saw in all the video that I watched and my experience from designing and building things out of wood, steel and concrete. I'm self taught and have always had a God given gift for mechanical things whether it be something I built or someone else's. It's very easy for me to look at something and how it's put together and understand it strengths, weaknesses and how to improve or repurpose it.

What I see is how our government through inaction or even encouragement brought about the attack in the first place. Beyond encouraging terrorist to crash planes into the towers I fail to see why the government would need to plant explosives or whatever else people think they did. It would be pointless and nearly impossible to pull off. It just doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[ZNP]

Going to say this again. Muslims flew planes in the building.
If you think your government is that bad go over there to Afghanistan and live with them and see how they treat Christians over there
And then you have the nerve to say liberals hate America

didn't say that either

 

[Dude653]

didn't say that either

You're claiming that our own government killed 3,000 americans.
I am rejecting your claim
Also the 911 hijackers were financed by Saudi arabia. It's been proven

 

[ZNP]

You're claiming that our own government killed 3,000 americans.
I am rejecting your claim
Also the 911 hijackers were financed by Saudi arabia. It's been proven

I am not. I am claiming that whoever killed the people on 9/11 had the power to cover it up.

It could have been 20 people, hardly the "US Government". Just a cabal of traitors who one day will pay the full price for what they have done.

I have already said I have two friends who are very high positions in the US government and I don't believe they had anything at all to do with it.

You slander people. You do it constantly. Twist what they say, distort it, accuse them of saying things they didn't say or thinking things they don't think. It is very ugly.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Margaret Sanger has been deceased for 56 years now

But the satanic spirit that led her is still just as alive today. (Eph 6:12)

 

[Dude653]

I am not. I am claiming that whoever killed the people on 9/11 had the power to cover it up.

It could have been 20 people, hardly the "US Government". Just a cabal of traitors who one day will pay the full price for what they have done.

I have already said I have two friends who are very high positions in the US government and I don't believe they had anything at all to do with it.

You slander people. You do it constantly. Twist what they say, distort it, accuse them of saying things they didn't say or thinking things they don't think. It is very ugly.

The truther narrative is that our own government did 9/11 as an excuse to invade iraq. So if that's not your claim then what is?

 

[Nehemiah6]

I'd say this man is a buffoon but I would think his dangerous rhetoric is calculated.

This is a very evil man who will stoop to any garbage to influence people. He is also a Black Racist. I hope no one listens to his garbage.

 

[ZNP]

The truther narrative is that our own government did 9/11 as an excuse to invade iraq. So if that's not your claim then what is?

I don't even know who the truthers are.

My claim is that I spent a month carefully going over the 911 report to teach this as a case study in my forensics class and I discovered it was a horribly done investigation, truly stunning at what wasn't done. The explanation made no sense. Their were many tests that should have been done which weren't. Evidence was destroyed and even if you accept the official narrative of guys with box cutters did all this, they were dead when the investigation took place so they had nothing to do with that.

That is the "what" it is very easy to see the "what" not so easy to see the why.

I can tell you what happened as a result of the official narrative.

1. Patriot act was passed, greatly curtailing civil liberties and expanding the governments ability to become a tyrant.

2. We invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with the attack. That is generally agreed on by everyone.

3. We put our military in position in both Iraq and Afghanistan to control major oil and gas fields.

This does not mean that everyone who voted to invade Iraq had prior knowledge of 911, I suspect very few of them did, if any of them. Nor does it mean that when they voted to invade Iraq they knew that Iraq was innocent. It is very likely that the majority of them didn't.

However, the fourth thing that happened is definitely what I think was the goal. I think this because Dick Cheney said this almost 9 months prior to 911. He said that they needed a whole lot of money to completely overhaul our military with state of the art drones and robots and that the only way to get the American people to agree to this is if we had another Pearl Harbor event. (I paraphrased but this is what he said).

Therefore I do believe Dick Cheney was behind 911 and it was he who said the day of the attack that we needed to pin this on Iraq. I suspect almost no one else in government knew anything about this. Once the attack happened it would be easy to manipulate them.

 

[Handyman62]

Look you can think whatever you want about how and why the buildings were brought down. I'm going by what I saw in all the video that I watched and my experience from designing and building things out of wood, steel and concrete. I'm self taught and have always had a God given gift for mechanical things whether it be something I built or someone else's. It's very easy for me to look at something and how it's put together and understand it strengths, weaknesses and how to improve or repurpose it.

What I see is how our government through inaction or even encouragement brought about the attack in the first place. Beyond encouraging terrorist to crash planes into the towers I fail to see why the government would need to plant explosives or whatever else people think they did. It would be pointless and nearly impossible to pull off. It just doesn't pass the smell test.

A couple more things. It would be nearly impossible, and I mean like a 99.99999999% chance that someone could wire a building with explosives and have a large passenger jet crash into it and expect to have the delicate & precise wiring remain intact enough to even set off one charge let alone enough to bring down a building.

It's very easy to see that when the towers came down that it started exactly at the point of impact. Which is also the place where if there were any explosives they would have to have been set off, BUT that's the one place where without a doubt the wiring for any explosives would have been destroyed and rendered useless. When buildings are demoed with explosives the explosives are wired in circuits. Damage any circuit and that circuits is useless and so are the explosives.

Another thing is when the planes hit the towers they put large holes on each side. What that did was cause the fires to be fed with plenty of oxygen which made them burn hotter. Not unlike a blacksmiths forge where he pumps air into the forge to make it hot enough to soften the steel he's working. So basically with two holes you get a chimney effect going with cooler oxygen filled air being drawn in one side and hot exhaust air flows out the other. As the fire intensifies more air gets pulled in at a faster rate and as long as there's something to burn and a good supply of oxygen temperatures will continue to rise.

A good example of this is a rocket stove. There are several designs and is something that people can easily build. They are small and can boil water or cook food pretty quickly with little fuel (wood).

 

[ZNP]

A couple more things. It would be nearly impossible, and I mean like a 99.99999999% chance that someone could wire a building with explosives and have a large passenger jet crash into it and expect to have the delicate & precise wiring remain intact enough to even set off one charge let alone enough to bring down a building.

It's very easy to see that when the towers came down that it started exactly at the point of impact. Which is also the place where if there were any explosives they would have to have been set off, BUT that's the one place where without a doubt the wiring for any explosives would have been destroyed and rendered useless. When buildings are demoed with explosives the explosives are wired in circuits. Damage any circuit and that circuits is useless and so are the explosives.

Another thing is when the planes hit the towers they put large holes on each side. What that did was cause the fires to be fed with plenty of oxygen which made them burn hotter. Not unlike a blacksmiths forge where he pumps air into the forge to make it hot enough to soften the steel he's working. So basically with two holes you get a chimney effect going with cooler oxygen filled air being drawn in one side and hot exhaust air flows out the other. As the fire intensifies more air gets pulled in at a faster rate and as long as there's something to burn and a good supply of oxygen temperatures will continue to rise.

A good example of this is a rocket stove. There are several designs and is something that people can easily build. They are small and can boil water or cook food pretty quickly with little fuel (wood).

Wired? Wouldn't it be wireless?

 

[Handyman62]

Wired? Wouldn't it be wireless?

To unreliable, a stay radio signal could possibly set one or more of them off prematurely. But if you can locate a demolision company that uses wireless explosives to bring down buildings then I will concede the point.

 

[Dude653]

I don't even know who the truthers are.

My claim is that I spent a month carefully going over the 911 report to teach this as a case study in my forensics class and I discovered it was a horribly done investigation, truly stunning at what wasn't done. The explanation made no sense. Their were many tests that should have been done which weren't. Evidence was destroyed and even if you accept the official narrative of guys with box cutters did all this, they were dead when the investigation took place so they had nothing to do with that.

That is the "what" it is very easy to see the "what" not so easy to see the why.

I can tell you what happened as a result of the official narrative.

1. Patriot act was passed, greatly curtailing civil liberties and expanding the governments ability to become a tyrant.

2. We invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with the attack. That is generally agreed on by everyone.

3. We put our military in position in both Iraq and Afghanistan to control major oil and gas fields.

This does not mean that everyone who voted to invade Iraq had prior knowledge of 911, I suspect very few of them did, if any of them. Nor does it mean that when they voted to invade Iraq they knew that Iraq was innocent. It is very likely that the majority of them didn't.

However, the fourth thing that happened is definitely what I think was the goal. I think this because Dick Cheney said this almost 9 months prior to 911. He said that they needed a whole lot of money to completely overhaul our military with state of the art drones and robots and that the only way to get the American people to agree to this is if we had another Pearl Harbor event. (I paraphrased but this is what he said).

Therefore I do believe Dick Cheney was behind 911 and it was he who said the day of the attack that we needed to pin this on Iraq. I suspect almost no one else in government knew anything about this. Once the attack happened it would be easy to manipulate them.

Yeah I know Iraq didn't do nothing and the invasion of Iraq was what tanked our economy
Obama inherited a tanked economy from the Bush administration
The Iraq invasion cost us 8 trillion
I have also heard that the Iraqis liked having the Americans there to protect them from isis
There are some things we definitely know like the planes did hit because they were thousands of eyewitnesses who saw it
I don't buy the control demolition theory either because do you expect me to believe that an entire demolition crew snuck into the busiest building in America undetected?
Just doesn't add up
Also Dick Cheney couldn't have done it by himself. And by now there would have been whistleblowers

 

[ZNP]

Yeah I know Iraq didn't do nothing and the invasion of Iraq was what tanked our economy
Obama inherited a tanked economy from the Bush administration
The Iraq invasion cost us 8 trillion
I have also heard that the Iraqis liked having the Americans there to protect them from isis
There are some things we definitely know like the planes did hit because they were thousands of eyewitnesses who saw it
I don't buy the control demolition theory either because do you expect me to believe that an entire demolition crew snuck into the busiest building in America undetected?
Just doesn't add up
Also Dick Cheney couldn't have done it by himself. And by now there would have been whistleblowers

I don't care who believes this. The truth will come out and at that point we all will know the truth, including myself. What I do know is the official story is bogus for many different reasons.

But what I also know is that it is too late to do the right thing about 9/11. It is like the old saying, you break it, you pay for it. We used that attack to go and kill innocent people and there will be a judgement over that.

 

[Gojira]

I heard something similar from family members who are complaining the problem with democracy is that it lets everyone vote (he is a registered democrat, a Stop the Steal denier, who sees no evil in Kamala and Joe)

This comes from Leftists. It may come from conservatives as well, but the most recent example I can think of came from a hard-core Lefty I used to work with. He said that all "stupid people" should be exiled. I then promptly gave him a 'sieg heil', which made him back up a bit.

 

[ZNP]

This comes from Leftists. It may come from conservatives as well, but the most recent example I can think of came from a hard-core Lefty I used to work with. He said that all "stupid people" should be exiled. I then promptly gave him a 'sieg heil', which made him back up a bit.

It is stunning how arrogant or ignorant you have to be to think 55% of Americans shouldn't be allowed to vote. Either he doesn't realize that 55% of the people feel this way (listening to NPR or for some other reason in the dark) or he actually thinks he is smarter than 55% of the country. Either way it was stunning to me.

 

[Dude653]

I don't care who believes this. The truth will come out and at that point we all will know the truth, including myself. What I do know is the official story is bogus for many different reasons.

But what I also know is that it is too late to do the right thing about 9/11. It is like the old saying, you break it, you pay for it. We used that attack to go and kill innocent people and there will be a judgement over that.

What I believe is that Islam is bent on taking over the world by any means necessary. They kind of already have. Just look at europe. They're well on their way to be in Saudi Arabia minus the sand.
France is on the verge of civil war because of Islamic violence. Also anyone can slam Christianity with impunity but you better not dare say anything negative about islam.
Osama bin laden has always been a religious zealot
He even used to kill his own people.
He used to force March his family through the desert on some type of weird religious pilgrimages.
The problem with these conspiracy theories is that it gaslights the real problem which is Islamic jihadism

 

[ZNP]

What I believe is that Islam is bent on taking over the world by any means necessary. They kind of already have. Just look at europe. They're well on their way to be in Saudi Arabia minus the sand.
France is on the verge of civil war because of Islamic violence. Also anyone can slam Christianity with impunity but you better not dare say anything negative about islam.
Osama bin laden has always been a religious zealot
He even used to kill his own people.
He used to force March his family through the desert on some type of weird religious pilgrimages.
The problem with these conspiracy theories is that it gaslights the real problem which is Islamic jihadism

No, the problem with your posts are that they gaslight the real savior which is Jesus Christ.