Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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PennEd

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Seems like Trump wants to Change this country,would you want Trump to remain president after his term Is up and be able to send people that were against him to jail?
What the H*ll do you think Biden is doin!?

SMH- They always actually do, what they accuse others of.
 

ZNP

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Seems like Trump wants to Change this country,would you want Trump to remain president after his term Is up and be able to send people that were against him to jail?
I don't care about Trump or Biden, I do support righteousness, justice, and the rule of law. Therefore I am all for the US constitution.

I would send people who are violating the US constitution to jail but could care less if they were for or against Trump. The issue for me is not whether they were against Trump but if they stole an election, or committed genocide in order to remove him.

I don't want any president to die after their term is up, that is foolish, even if I think Clinton is a criminal, I would rather have him stand trial and have it proved in court. So yes, of course I want Trump to continue to remain after his term is up and he leaves office. It is nice that these presidents can then act as elder statesmen.
 

true_believer

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I'm not sure why Trump fanatics and Republicans have issues with Biden. Then need to take a closer look at themselves.
 

ZNP

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I'm not sure why Trump fanatics and Republicans have issues with Biden. Then need to take a closer look at themselves.
I'm not sure why Trump fanatics and Republicans have issues with Biden. Then need to take a closer look at themselves.
How is the inflation act a failure, prices are up 20% since Biden took office. I feel that can only be viewed as massive, what other President can make that claim, all in their first 3 years! What more could Biden have done? I get it, people will claim that he depleted our national oil reserve which reduced inflation, even infintesimally. This is true, but imagine the Houtis and Iranians blow up some oil refineries in the Middle East, oil prices spike and then Biden buys back all the oil he sold at 2-3 times the price! You see, Biden knows what he is doing when it comes to inflation.

When I look at myself I doubt I could have caused inflation to go up that much that quickly. So hat tip to Biden, when it comes to crashing the US economy and helping the globalists issue a new reserve currency, he has done a great job. Like they are saying, the problem with Maga is they love this country too much, you can't say that of Biden.
 
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He doesn't want change. He wants a return to following the Constitution. You are very naive about Trump, his supporters, and the actual estate of American politics.
His supporters do expect him to restore law and order. In doing so, that will mean prosecuting many on the opposite side of the aisle.
Ok If things stay the way they are as for as the lead that Trump has right now and he goes against Biden and wins and then manages to become a dictator will you be ok with that?I’m just saying,be mindful that american democracy the way we know It could be In danger.
 
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I don't care about Trump or Biden, I do support righteousness, justice, and the rule of law. Therefore I am all for the US constitution.

I would send people who are violating the US constitution to jail but could care less if they were for or against Trump. The issue for me is not whether they were against Trump but if they stole an election, or committed genocide in order to remove him.

I don't want any president to die after their term is up, that is foolish, even if I think Clinton is a criminal, I would rather have him stand trial and have it proved in court. So yes, of course I want Trump to continue to remain after his term is up and he leaves office. It is nice that these presidents can then act as elder statesmen.
I wish all that you said was a realty but that IMO Is wishful thinking,Trump IMO Is TOO dangerous and he Is already calling those that stormed the capital on jan 6 hostages and IMO Implying that he doesn’t think the ones that went to jail are guilty and IMO he Is Implying that he DID send them to the capital.
 

Cameron143

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Ok If things stay the way they are as for as the lead that Trump has right now and he goes against Biden and wins and then manages to become a dictator will you be ok with that?I’m just saying,be mindful that american democracy the way we know It could be In danger.
I do agree that the democracy is in danger of being overturned, but not because of Trump. And it is hard to understand how a person who claims to know and love the Lord can be so easily fooled. Trump isn't the problem. He may or may not be used of God as part of the solution. Or God may allow for the destruction of this nation. Collectively, this nation has committed great evil and is far from God.
If I were you, I would spend less time on Trump, and more time on my knees.
 

ZNP

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Ok If things stay the way they are as for as the lead that Trump has right now and he goes against Biden and wins and then manages to become a dictator will you be ok with that?I’m just saying,be mindful that american democracy the way we know It could be In danger.
I'm old enough to remember when the question in a situation like this was "were you better off with Biden or Trump?" Or, let's hear the platform, what do you plan on doing if you were elected. But no, Biden doesn't want either of those debates, he'll lose 70% to 30%. So now it is fear porn: "If Trump is elected he will treat the deep state the way they treated them".
 

Ted01

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IMHO, Democracy/Capitalism isn't so much a form of government, but rather a framework of a business minded conglomerate.
 
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I do agree that the democracy is in danger of being overturned, but not because of Trump. And it is hard to understand how a person who claims to know and love the Lord can be so easily fooled. Trump isn't the problem. He may or may not be used of God as part of the solution. Or God may allow for the destruction of this nation. Collectively, this nation has committed great evil and is far from God.
If I were you, I would spend less time on Trump, and more time on my knees.
I disagree that a person who doesn’t vote for Trump Is not a Christian but he has been been truth checked many times and came up lacking,I think you should take your own advice,you should love truth.

BTW,I was for Pence.
 
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I'm old enough to remember when the question in a situation like this was "were you better off with Biden or Trump?" Or, let's hear the platform, what do you plan on doing if you were elected. But no, Biden doesn't want either of those debates, he'll lose 70% to 30%. So now it is fear porn: "If Trump is elected he will treat the deep state the way they treated them".
Is that righteous to do unto others as they have done unto you?
I don't care about Trump or Biden, I do support righteousness, justice, and the rule of law.
 
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It's Pence's fault we have joe bribem as president now.

There was another election where the vice president refuses to accept some state's ballots and instead required those state's legislature to vote in how their electors would be used.

It was well within Pence's authority to do this as it had been done before.

Word is, he was actually going to do this... but then chickened out cause he's a yellow liberal who plays like he's a conservative... but sadly he's not
 

Cameron143

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I disagree that a person who doesn’t vote for Trump Is not a Christian but he has been been truth checked many times and came up lacking,I think you should take your own advice,you should love truth.

BTW,I was for Pence.
You misunderstood what I wrote. People are free to vote however they want. I'm not saying they shouldn't. But there are some truly serious problems in this country, and a child of God should be able to identify them and their causes. You don't seem to possess the ability to discern either the true problems or the true causes, even though myself and others have enumerated them. And this is what I find surprising.
I'm not questioning whether you are a Christian or not. But I am surprised that there are so many professing Christians who lack the ability to discern between what is good and what is evil.
 

ZNP

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Is that righteous to do unto others as they have done unto you?
As you have done it will be done unto you and do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Vengeance belongs to God, not to us.

What I do know is that if you don't want the DOJ weaponized against you, don't weaponize it against your opponents. If you don't want lawfare used against you, don't use it against others.

I also know that sinners lose the right to cry foul. An adulterer can't get all outraged that their "partner" is also an adulterer. A thief does not get to go to court for restitution if someone steals the money from him that he stole from the bank. The people who committed the rape of Nanking don't get to complain about the bombing of Hiroshima.
 

true_believer

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I disagree that a person who doesn’t vote for Trump Is not a Christian but he has been been truth checked many times and came up lacking,I think you should take your own advice,you should love truth.

BTW,I was for Pence.
MAGA cult members make statements like that in a futile attempt to shame others thinking they will support their orange dictator.
 

ZNP

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16 The Lord is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands

Joe Biden is desperately trying to get money for Ukraine, but they laundered money through Ukraine for the 2022 election. Also we can all remember Biden threatening Ukraine with removing US aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor who was going after Hunter Biden. Nor does anyone forget the withdrawal from Afghanistan, handing over our military bases and equipment to the Taliban and giving them a list of people who worked with the US. After Afghanistan and now Ukraine who will want the US as an ally?

I remember when $4 billion to build a wall across the Southern border was considered a lot of money but $140 billion for Ukraine to protect their border didn't even warrant a debate.

I remember when AOC was crying about kids in cages but now that we have huge human trafficking warehouses on our Southern border she seems to have forgotten about the issue.

I remember when building a wall was something only Xenophobic racists would do, and then when a few of the immigrants were bused to Martha's Vineyard they were immediately shipped to an army base.

I remember when Joe Biden promised to pay the college loans of gender studies majors with the tax money of mechanics and blue collar workers.

I remember when Joe Biden called 75 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump "domestic terrorists" and now wants us to worry about Donald Trump prosecuting him and others for their crimes.