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cv5

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And yet not one politician or one military general said that the USA had been subjected to a Bolshevik Revolution when the presidential election was stolen.

In fact the Deep State and all the politicians helped with this theft. Where were the efforts to clean up the election machinery? Where was the independent commission to thoroughly investigate the destruction of the voting process in every state?
SHOCKING EXCLUSIVE: Nearly TWO-THIRDS of All Controls Needed To Ensure Accurate and Secure Elections Are Missing!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/shocking-exclusive-nearly-two-thirds-all-controls-needed/

THE JIG IS UP… EXCLUSIVE: Local Reporter Describes Election Expert Halderman Breaking into Dominion Voting Machine and Changing Vote Totals During His Georgia Testimony
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...e-local-reporter-describes-election/#comments

BREAKING: In A Federal Court In Atlanta Georgia On Friday J. Alex Halderman (
@jhalderm) Was Able To HACK A DOMINION VOTING TABULATOR In Front Of U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg USING ONLY A PEN TO CHANGE VOTE TOTALS! This Is Part Of A Long Running Lawsuit By Election Integrity Activists Set As A Bench Trial. Plaintiff's Seek To Remove What They Say Are Insecure Voting Machines In Georgia In Favor Of Secure Paper Ballots.


What about in every state?
USSA is going down the tubes buddy. Hopefully the American people can turn the Titanic around in time.
 

ZNP

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And yet not one politician or one military general said that the USA had been subjected to a Bolshevik Revolution when the presidential election was stolen.

In fact the Deep State and all the politicians helped with this theft. Where were the efforts to clean up the election machinery? Where was the independent commission to thoroughly investigate the destruction of the voting process in every state?
SHOCKING EXCLUSIVE: Nearly TWO-THIRDS of All Controls Needed To Ensure Accurate and Secure Elections Are Missing!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/shocking-exclusive-nearly-two-thirds-all-controls-needed/

THE JIG IS UP… EXCLUSIVE: Local Reporter Describes Election Expert Halderman Breaking into Dominion Voting Machine and Changing Vote Totals During His Georgia Testimony
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...e-local-reporter-describes-election/#comments

BREAKING: In A Federal Court In Atlanta Georgia On Friday J. Alex Halderman (
@jhalderm) Was Able To HACK A DOMINION VOTING TABULATOR In Front Of U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg USING ONLY A PEN TO CHANGE VOTE TOTALS! This Is Part Of A Long Running Lawsuit By Election Integrity Activists Set As A Bench Trial. Plaintiff's Seek To Remove What They Say Are Insecure Voting Machines In Georgia In Favor Of Secure Paper Ballots.


What about in every state?
Hold everything, if this is the case then how come the 2020 election was the safest and most secure election in US history? What are you saying about George Washington and Abraham Lincoln?!?
 

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To jail after raiding the capitol.
"After RAIDING the Capitol"? As a Christian you persist in spreading lies? Just like the J6 Select House Committee (which has destroyed all the "evidence"). No one raided the Capitol, but the FBI deliberately created a false flag illegal operation, planted their operatives within the crowd, and then started a witch hunt.

Trump tells supporters to be ‘peaceful’ after they storm Capitol
President Trump urged his supporters to “stay peaceful” while throngs of pro-Trump demonstrators flooded to the U.S. Capitol and breached the complex on Wednesday afternoon. “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” Trump tweeted.... Trump sent another tweet about 30 minutes later, again pleading with protesters at the U.S. Capitol to “remain peaceful” and avoid violence. “No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!” Trump wrote...
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...o-be-peaceful-after-protesters-storm-capitol/

TIME Magazine (which is by means conservative) said this: "...What the American justice system has found to be a riot, GOP lawmakers, conservative media and right-wing activists cast as a legitimate protest that just got out of hand... Now, as the investigation enters its second year, federal officials face the uncomfortable possibility that the more successful they are, the more Americans may take up the cause of people seen as persecuted patriots.
https://time.com/6133257/january-6-investigation-capitol-riot-fbi/

But Tucker Carlson had footage of the so-called "insurrection" and this is what he said:
Tucker Carlson shows the first of his Jan. 6 footage, calls it ‘mostly peaceful chaos’
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/
“ ‘Deadly insurrection.’ Everything about that phrase is a lie,” Carlson said on his widely watched weeknight program. “Very little about Jan. 6 was organized or violent. Surveillance video from inside the Capitol shows mostly peaceful chaos...”

"...Carlson showed footage of people who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6 roaming the hallways without vandalizing or warring with police officers, including “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley being followed by officers walking behind him and passing a group of several officers without being stopped... Carlson charged that members of the Jan. 6 select House committee lied about what they saw on the security footage...

Also this: FIRST ON FOX: The House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 failed to adequately preserve documents, data and video depositions – including communications it had with the Biden White House that are still missing according to the Republican lawmaker overseeing the GOP investigation into the committee's work.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/j6...on-capitol-hill-security-failures-gop-charges

From another Fox News report we have this comment by a third party: "You can see the way those people were walking through the Capitol… they are walking meekly, politely queuing, very peaceable. They don't mean any harm. They are treating the Capitol with reverence," Devine told Carlson. "That doesn't excuse the others, the minority of the protesters who did break windows and fight police and injure police and cause mayhem. But the people who are now being picked up and some of them have been jailed without trial for months, even years on end, did not commit violence. They walked through open doors, they were escorted by police, they felt that this was okay. And I think Jacob Chansley is a classic example of that."

Look Ahead America, a conservative political advocacy group founded by former Trump campaign staffer Matt Braynard, held a protest at the Justice Department over the weekend, calling for justice for January 6 defendants.
"This protest is to send the message that patriotic Americans have not forgotten the continuing abuses and injustices suffered by our brothers and sisters at the hands of the DOJ and FBI following their peaceful participation in Capitol protests three years ago," the event website reads. "We will again raise our voices to tell the DOJ, the FBI, the Biden Administration, and the country that we demand pardons, clemency, and leniency for our fellow Americans who've been persecuted not for their actions but for their political beliefs."
https://www.newsweek.com/capitol-rioter-slams-fbi-theory-pam-hemphill-1858665
 

cv5

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"After RAIDING the Capitol"? As a Christian you persist in spreading lies? Just like the J6 Select House Committee (which has destroyed all the "evidence"). No one raided the Capitol, but the FBI deliberately created a false flag illegal operation, planted their operatives within the crowd, and then started a witch hunt.

Trump tells supporters to be ‘peaceful’ after they storm Capitol
President Trump urged his supporters to “stay peaceful” while throngs of pro-Trump demonstrators flooded to the U.S. Capitol and breached the complex on Wednesday afternoon. “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” Trump tweeted.... Trump sent another tweet about 30 minutes later, again pleading with protesters at the U.S. Capitol to “remain peaceful” and avoid violence. “No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!” Trump wrote...
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...o-be-peaceful-after-protesters-storm-capitol/

TIME Magazine (which is by means conservative) said this: "...What the American justice system has found to be a riot, GOP lawmakers, conservative media and right-wing activists cast as a legitimate protest that just got out of hand... Now, as the investigation enters its second year, federal officials face the uncomfortable possibility that the more successful they are, the more Americans may take up the cause of people seen as persecuted patriots.
https://time.com/6133257/january-6-investigation-capitol-riot-fbi/

But Tucker Carlson had footage of the so-called "insurrection" and this is what he said:
Tucker Carlson shows the first of his Jan. 6 footage, calls it ‘mostly peaceful chaos’
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/
“ ‘Deadly insurrection.’ Everything about that phrase is a lie,” Carlson said on his widely watched weeknight program. “Very little about Jan. 6 was organized or violent. Surveillance video from inside the Capitol shows mostly peaceful chaos...”

"...Carlson showed footage of people who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6 roaming the hallways without vandalizing or warring with police officers, including “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley being followed by officers walking behind him and passing a group of several officers without being stopped... Carlson charged that members of the Jan. 6 select House committee lied about what they saw on the security footage...

Also this: FIRST ON FOX: The House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 failed to adequately preserve documents, data and video depositions – including communications it had with the Biden White House that are still missing according to the Republican lawmaker overseeing the GOP investigation into the committee's work.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/j6...on-capitol-hill-security-failures-gop-charges

From another Fox News report we have this comment by a third party: "You can see the way those people were walking through the Capitol… they are walking meekly, politely queuing, very peaceable. They don't mean any harm. They are treating the Capitol with reverence," Devine told Carlson. "That doesn't excuse the others, the minority of the protesters who did break windows and fight police and injure police and cause mayhem. But the people who are now being picked up and some of them have been jailed without trial for months, even years on end, did not commit violence. They walked through open doors, they were escorted by police, they felt that this was okay. And I think Jacob Chansley is a classic example of that."

Look Ahead America, a conservative political advocacy group founded by former Trump campaign staffer Matt Braynard, held a protest at the Justice Department over the weekend, calling for justice for January 6 defendants.
"This protest is to send the message that patriotic Americans have not forgotten the continuing abuses and injustices suffered by our brothers and sisters at the hands of the DOJ and FBI following their peaceful participation in Capitol protests three years ago," the event website reads. "We will again raise our voices to tell the DOJ, the FBI, the Biden Administration, and the country that we demand pardons, clemency, and leniency for our fellow Americans who've been persecuted not for their actions but for their political beliefs."
https://www.newsweek.com/capitol-rioter-slams-fbi-theory-pam-hemphill-1858665
For the fully committed commies, anything goes as long as it is a means to an end.
 
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"After RAIDING the Capitol"? As a Christian you persist in spreading lies? Just like the J6 Select House Committee (which has destroyed all the "evidence"). No one raided the Capitol, but the FBI deliberately created a false flag illegal operation, planted their operatives within the crowd, and then started a witch hunt.

Trump tells supporters to be ‘peaceful’ after they storm Capitol
President Trump urged his supporters to “stay peaceful” while throngs of pro-Trump demonstrators flooded to the U.S. Capitol and breached the complex on Wednesday afternoon. “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” Trump tweeted.... Trump sent another tweet about 30 minutes later, again pleading with protesters at the U.S. Capitol to “remain peaceful” and avoid violence. “No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!” Trump wrote...
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...o-be-peaceful-after-protesters-storm-capitol/

TIME Magazine (which is by means conservative) said this: "...What the American justice system has found to be a riot, GOP lawmakers, conservative media and right-wing activists cast as a legitimate protest that just got out of hand... Now, as the investigation enters its second year, federal officials face the uncomfortable possibility that the more successful they are, the more Americans may take up the cause of people seen as persecuted patriots.
https://time.com/6133257/january-6-investigation-capitol-riot-fbi/

But Tucker Carlson had footage of the so-called "insurrection" and this is what he said:
Tucker Carlson shows the first of his Jan. 6 footage, calls it ‘mostly peaceful chaos’
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...jan-6-footage-calls-it-mostly-peaceful-chaos/
“ ‘Deadly insurrection.’ Everything about that phrase is a lie,” Carlson said on his widely watched weeknight program. “Very little about Jan. 6 was organized or violent. Surveillance video from inside the Capitol shows mostly peaceful chaos...”

"...Carlson showed footage of people who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6 roaming the hallways without vandalizing or warring with police officers, including “QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley being followed by officers walking behind him and passing a group of several officers without being stopped... Carlson charged that members of the Jan. 6 select House committee lied about what they saw on the security footage...

Also this: FIRST ON FOX: The House select committee that investigated the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021 failed to adequately preserve documents, data and video depositions – including communications it had with the Biden White House that are still missing according to the Republican lawmaker overseeing the GOP investigation into the committee's work.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/j6...on-capitol-hill-security-failures-gop-charges

From another Fox News report we have this comment by a third party: "You can see the way those people were walking through the Capitol… they are walking meekly, politely queuing, very peaceable. They don't mean any harm. They are treating the Capitol with reverence," Devine told Carlson. "That doesn't excuse the others, the minority of the protesters who did break windows and fight police and injure police and cause mayhem. But the people who are now being picked up and some of them have been jailed without trial for months, even years on end, did not commit violence. They walked through open doors, they were escorted by police, they felt that this was okay. And I think Jacob Chansley is a classic example of that."

Look Ahead America, a conservative political advocacy group founded by former Trump campaign staffer Matt Braynard, held a protest at the Justice Department over the weekend, calling for justice for January 6 defendants.
"This protest is to send the message that patriotic Americans have not forgotten the continuing abuses and injustices suffered by our brothers and sisters at the hands of the DOJ and FBI following their peaceful participation in Capitol protests three years ago," the event website reads. "We will again raise our voices to tell the DOJ, the FBI, the Biden Administration, and the country that we demand pardons, clemency, and leniency for our fellow Americans who've been persecuted not for their actions but for their political beliefs."
https://www.newsweek.com/capitol-rioter-slams-fbi-theory-pam-hemphill-1858665
It looked that way on tv to me.What you talkin bout willis?😂
 

gb9

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It looked that way on tv to me.What you talkin bout willis?😂
then look up some videos from on the ground from folks that were there.

like when the capital police started shooting flash bangs into the crowd, and that is when folks started to brawl with the police...
 

ZNP

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then look up some videos from on the ground from folks that were there.

like when the capital police started shooting flash bangs into the crowd, and that is when folks started to brawl with the police...
I was there, known it was a false flag since that day, just waited for the evidence to come out and be public.

I had been to 5 rallies before that one and in each one we had groups of Antifa try and attack the rally and we were protected by the Proud Boys which is why all the previous rallies were peaceful. The first one in Washigton DC did have issues that evening where thugs attacked women, children and old people in DC wearing Stop the Steal paraphenalia. But January 5th the Mayor of DC arrested the Proud Boys, that was the security for the event. Once we learned that we knew the fix was in. I must have warned at least a hundred people at the rally that the event was a set up and one guy who told me he was going into the capital (the guy who put his feet on Pelosi's desk) I told him if he did that they would shoot him.
 
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then look up some videos from on the ground from folks that were there.

like when the capital police started shooting flash bangs into the crowd, and that is when folks started to brawl with the police...
Are you saying that my eyes didn’t see what I saw?🤔You MAGA’S amaze me.🤷🏻🤷🤷🏾
 

ZNP

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Are you saying that my eyes didn’t see what I saw?🤔You MAGA’S amaze me.🤷🏻🤷🤷🏾
For one thing it was not a "MAGA" rally, nor was it a campaign rally. You demonstrate your ignorance by your assumptions. It was a "Stop the Steal" rally. Many people, including some Democrats, were concerned about election integrity. The purpose of the rally was to express support for those questioning the election. I attended three prayer meetings, two outside of Mike Pence's residence.

Second, your argument that someone is questioning what you saw with your own eyes is pure hypocrisy. I was there for four days, and on Jan 6th I was there from 5am until after 1pm. How is my eyewitness testimony and first hand account assumed to be biased, while yours which is only what a clearly biased news network that has been telling you "orange man bad" for four years allowed you to see. It was highly edited.

Third the questions about it are obvious, so much so that anyone who doesn't ask them is intentionally choosing to close their eyes. The single biggest piece of evidence that the event was an "insurrection" was the pipe bomb yet for some reason the guy who planted the bomb has never been apprehended? That is absurd. There are so many cameras in DC it is hard if not impossible to believe they couldn't find him, especially now that the footage of him planting the bomb and then notifying police and Secret service has been made public. Also the most persuasive and convincing evidence that someone was instigating the event was all the video and tape we have on Ray Epps as well as his own admission that he orchestrated the whole thing, yet he gets community service while people not even in DC get 20 years?

With what judgement you judge you shall be judged.