Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Just because the big show tells us we have to vote for one of two very bad choices doesn't mean we have to.

Write someone in. Vote third party. There is always an alternative to supporting evil.
Choose Jesus, neither of the two choices represent him.
 

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BREAKING: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis just announced that Trump will be able to vote in Florida despite his New York conviction. DeSantis has the ability to restore all of Trump's rights as the leader of the Florida Clemency Board "President Donald Trump hasn't lost his voting rights in Florida. Rights are not removed in Florida where they haven't yet been stripped in the convicting jurisdiction. That said, given the absurd nature of the New York prosecution of Trump, this would be an easy case to qualify for restoration of rights per the Florida Clemency Board, which I chair."
 

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CNN Senior Legal Analyst Describes How The Trump Conviction Was A Political Hit Job

1. "The judge donated money... in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations—to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation."

2. Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly Democrat county, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.”
3. "Most importantly, the DA’s charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due process."

4. "The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever."

5. The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and "electroshocked them back to life" by alleging the falsification of business records was committed 'with intent to commit another crime.'

6. "Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were — and the judge declined to force them to pony up — until right before closing arguments. So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial."

7. "In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else."

8. "The Manhattan DA’s employees reportedly have called this the “Zombie Case” because of various legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism. But it’s better characterized as the Frankenstein Case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts into an ugly, awkward, but more-or-less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn on its creator." Link to full article below.
 

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Alvin Bragg downgraded 60% of all felonies in NYC for 2023 (938 total). Yet for Donald Trump, he upgraded charges from misdemeanor to felony to convict Trump THIRTY FOUR TIMES.
 

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Ouch. Thats gonna leave a mark....

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BREAKING: Senator Joe Manchin leaves Democrat Party, registers as an independent
 

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This is going to cost New York untold billions in fleeing capital. Nothing to Bragg about.

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I just CANCELED my vacation to New York and donated that $5,000 to the Trump campaign. I will NEVER go back to New York.
 

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“What we’re gearing up for is if Trump wins, he’s going to use the apparatus of the state to target his political opponents,” said Jason Stanley, a professor at Yale and the author of “How Fascism Works.”
Stanley said history is full of examples of people not believing the rhetoric of authoritarians. “Believe what they say,” he said. “He’s literally telling you he’s going to use the apparatus of the state to target his political opponents.”
a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

what was advertised as the party of law and order now rejects law and seeks disorder.

Christians should have no part with this.
 

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If they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone" - mr. Trump


That's right donny.

Every criminal can be punished. you aren't above the law.
 

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I'm a very innocent man.” - mr. Trump

no, donny.

you are definitely not.

All have sinned

not only is this man a convicted felon but his businesses have been repeatedly convicted of criminal fraud since the 1990s.
no public figure in American history has told as many documented lies.


yet instead of confessing his sin, he glories in it.

Christianity has no part with this.
 

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“What we’re gearing up for is if Trump wins, he’s going to use the apparatus of the state to target his political opponents,” said Jason Stanley, a professor at Yale and the author of “How Fascism Works.”
Stanley said history is full of examples of people not believing the rhetoric of authoritarians. “Believe what they say,” he said. “He’s literally telling you he’s going to use the apparatus of the state to target his political opponents.”
a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

what was advertised as the party of law and order now rejects law and seeks disorder.

Christians should have no part with this.
Stanley says Trump will do it. He ignores how it was actually just done. It seems you do, too. Further, it doesn't seem you can differentiate between prosecuting political foes and prosecuting those who have actually broken the law.
Trump entered into a NDA...nondisclosure agreement. Nondisclosure agreements are actually legal transactions, and are correctly recorded as legal expenses. Rigging court cases and breaking laws in the process while denying defendants their constitutional rights, however, is actually illegal behavior. Don't understand why you can't see it.
 

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I'm a very innocent man.” - mr. Trump

no, donny.

you are definitely not.

All have sinned

not only is this man a convicted felon but his businesses have been repeatedly convicted of criminal fraud since the 1990s.
no public figure in American history has told as many documented lies.


yet instead of confessing his sin, he glories in it.

Christianity has no part with this.

I am just not understanding how Trump is any worse than any other past president, can you enlighten me?
 

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prosecuting political foes
Obviously the case. Every lawyer and prosecutor in the world knows that this was a political hit job.

If the target was not Trump.....nobody would have been charged or even cared about these sundry matters.
This was prosecutorial misconduct on steroids and everybody knows it.
Good grief even CNN said so. And the NYTimes.
 

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Stanley says Trump will do it. He ignores how it was actually just done. It seems you do, too. Further, it doesn't seem you can differentiate between prosecuting political foes and prosecuting those who have actually broken the law.
Trump entered into a NDA...nondisclosure agreement. Nondisclosure agreements are actually legal transactions, and are correctly recorded as legal expenses. Rigging court cases and breaking laws in the process while denying defendants their constitutional rights, however, is actually illegal behavior. Don't understand why you can't see it.
This man was lawfully convicted by a jury of his peers by the state of NY.

He had every opportunity to defend himself, and was found guilty.

Notice that none of what you say, none of what the propaganda from the right says, has anything to do with his guilt in the matter. It is all about "everyone is out to get me"
 

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I am just not understanding how Trump is any worse than any other past president, can you enlighten me?
Trump is a relatively honest businessman is the way of standard commerce in the USA.
Utterly perfect? No. Within the law? Definitely.
 

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This man was lawfully convicted by a jury of his peers by the state of NY.

He had every opportunity to defend himself, and was found guilty.

Notice that none of what you say, none of what the propaganda from the right says, has anything to do with his guilt in the matter. It is all about "everyone is out to get me"
Its obvious that you have pretty much zero legal experience.

If you did (as I do)....you would know better.
 

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Obviously the case. Every lawyer and prosecutor in the world knows that this was a political hit job.

If the target was not Trump.....nobody would have been charged or even cared about these sundry matters.
This was prosecutorial misconduct on steroids and everybody knows it.
Good grief even CNN said so. And the NYTimes.
That doesn't make him innocent.
It remains that he is guilty, that the trial was lawful and that he lies when he says he deserves no justice for the crimes he comitted.

Everyone who is put on a pedestal is scrutinized closely. That is nothing new.
We only cry about it now because his only defense is that he doesn't think it is fair that he should be held to account for his wrongdoing.
 

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Trump is a relatively honest businessman is the way of standard commerce in the USA.
Utterly perfect? No. Within the law? Definitely.
It has been definitively proven many times that he does not act within the law.

His primary defense is that the law should not be applied to him and that he is being unfairly targeted when his crimes are justly punished.

This is not the rhetoric of a Christian.
 

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It is nothing new that high profile, public figures recieve more attention to their crimes than ordinary people.

They also receive less harsh judgments.
You or I would definitely be in jail already for the same crimes. He will not be.

Is that just?