Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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I met with them for 20 years. I had home meetings and went to home meetings. I was a ministry leader. And I gave the message at one of the meetings. But like I said this was a "charismatic" church but a non denominational. When they left the Baptists they were united with a bunch of pentecostals. So it was an amalgamation. We had about 2,000 members.

I don't have any knowledge of the group you met with other than what you said. So the original group was Baptist but then left the Baptist and combined with a group of Pentecostals. I've seen this situation before where groups divide over teaching's and form another group. At the same time though it leads back to what I said about being taught about breaking bread with unbelievers where one portion of a group was observing the others teachings and there was friction over some of it so they split into another group. So which it is I would have to guess since I only have the information you gave but either the group of Pentecostals disagreed with the other's in the Pentecostal group they were meeting with and left or the Baptist group divided. Either way though there are three groups your speaking of with three different teachings one Baptist, another Pentecostal and the third the amalgamation you met with for 20 years.
 
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The real question is how could the "Secret Service" FAIL in such an elementary, and OBVIOUS fashion???
Who says they "failed"? Go to Breitbart News and see under Trump Assassination Probe:
Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe Admits "Failure" (my quotation marks): ‘That Roofline Should Have Been Covered’

If that "roofline should have been covered" (and was not), then it was a conspiracy to assassinate Trump. But he refused to call it a conspiracy, since he would have admitted guilt. The whole Secret Service should have been arrested by now.
 

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There is that thinking in Dominion Theology where we thought it was not good to speak of that whole dominion aspect especially to a secular type audience because they would see it offensive. In Africa and Asia and many other places opportunity presented itself because of decline caused by both man and nature to send missionaries and plant the seed of dominion thought. This thread was open prey from it's beginning post in that it ask if there was anything Trump could do to cause them to not vote for him as if it was all about him when it should have ask if there was anything that the Republicans could do that would change their vote. I spent most of my life being taught this thinking and you might think you have a say but they have you all putting their people into place and have for some time now.
Dominionism, Theonomy, none of it is that widespread. But the question they raise is a good one IMO. If not God's Standard, then whose? I also agree with the thinking that everything is ultimately a religion, so, once again, what religion do Christians support and why are Christians not supposed to support God's standards when they live in a country that votes for its leaders and laws?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I don't know where to begin if the groups you mention are who you think teach Dominion Theology but no not them. Instead you should look at the Latter Rain,Shepherding movement but they change their name all the time. Pentecostal's, Evangelicals is where I was taught about the Third Wave.

Not mainstream Pentecostals, the ones that have the name in their title and not affiliated maybe, but not the mainstream. They didn't go for that Latter Rain stuff.
 
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Dominionism, Theonomy, none of it is that widespread. But the question they raise is a good one IMO. If not God's Standard, then whose? I also agree with the thinking that everything is ultimately a religion, so, once again, what religion do Christians support and why are Christians not supposed to support God's standards when they live in a country that votes for its leaders and laws?

I knew you agreed with it since post 9143 because you knew what all the phrases even meant but thanks for admitting it. The basic instinct of anyone hearing that someone or a group was secretly overtaking it would be to ask who to so they could defend the group they loved. My original comments were about the Seven Mountain mandate doctrine, New Apostolic Reformation and other names they use working their way into the Republican party overtaking it. It's revealing in that those who know what it is already and know the names they use argue that it's not instead of asking what it is. It shows that they already understood it and agreed with it and were approaching it similar to Wallnau's opinion to not speak of it to every audience.
 
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Not mainstream Pentecostals, the ones that have the name in their title and not affiliated maybe, but not the mainstream. They didn't go for that Latter Rain stuff.

The Latter Rain movement was a name from the 40's -70's or 80's but maybe even later today most refer to it as the Third Wave of the Holy Spirit. The Second Wave was the transition during the 60's to 80's.
 

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God? Jesus Christ? The cross of Christ?
This would seem to be obvious answer but it's more subtle than that. For example, the cross is there but the mercy of it is missing, and God is there but no real love. That's what makes it so difficult to 'spot' out.
It's probably something more like the woman in the picture looks the same in the other (things missing) panel but she's actually a man. And what is presented as love toward her is actually hate toward all of 'her' Olympic boxing competitors.
 

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Someone recently told me something like, "I've got you're back" and I find myself thinking, "I hope not like the SS had Trump's"
Sure, they had his six but they left him with an open nine.


And then criticize him for taking advantage of it...